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i can see theres a correlation between personality psychology and beliefs held.

so tell me, what uncommon beliefs you hold, when they started, changed, new ones, the whys behind your choices, and so on. also state your type, enneas and instincts for possible relevance.

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since i was 7, i speculated, that life is just a flash. we think we really experience things, but in reality, your life is a mere flash. that time is just an illusion. if you take yourself a moment and refect on your entire life in a single moment, you might experience this same feeling that its all so insignificant. like it all just slips through your fingers, and theres nothing you can do to stop it. (ive also specualted that this flash could be, cause im dying, so in my dying last breaths, i see my life flash through my mind. it kinda makes sense, considering whenever you feel like your life is about to end, this happens. at least for me. its like.. wow, my life was so insignificant. and now it could all end right now.)

at around age 13, i started to believe that i dies every night, because my brains renew itself constantly, based on science. that was indeed, an emotional belief based on science, so obviously an irrational one.

but i still somehow feel like every time i go to sleep, im never oging to wake up. that whoever wakes up in my body next day, is not me.

since age 17 i learned an ability to see auras. its fun, exciting, but i honestly see no point in hedonism. so i wont use it, really. but when i have strong emotions, it always gets triggered on, despite that i dont see point in enjoyment. its paradoxical, considering i consider enjoyment the only purpose of life. ah, well, i expect everyone has trouble with their integration point. trouble, which isnt so rational at all.. =|

from somewhere around 13 onwards, ive htought, that if there was a mgic switch in my head to end my life, i wouldnt hesitate to pull it. and i think ive kept the same attitude since then, that if i could, i would just die. but i think death is not necessarily even possible, since this is a dream. or, because my unconsciousness dominates me, and theres nothing i can do about it. cause im a slave to my unconsciousness.

my most recent acquisitions include, that all pain is an illusion. just imagination. in reality, we only have signals that our body gives us, but the pain itself is just imagination. and that i can cure other peoples headaches just by looking at their eyes and just because i want it to go away, it does. and this isnt really a belief, its something i casually do. but i realize not that many do this kind of thing in my country at least.

my empathy sometimes gets into an overdrive, and if someone in the same space i spend time with, even if i dont look at them at all.. i can feel all their hidden pain, problems, insanity, emptiness, anxiety... its awful. and i know its also all right, because the people always say yes if i ask them about those things i feel from them.

i also have an ability to control atmospheres. i can make everyone feel good/better, without saying a word. maintaining a good atmopshere this way is very exhausting if people are stressed, but i can do it, provided i feel well. like today i had a very exhausting day, met my family, whom are a high pace, high stress, hedonistic never stop to take care of your emotional problems kind of variety. i made the atmospehere good, until fighting their stress had so exhausted me that i started to project my exhaustion, and everyone got super lazy/relaxed. after that, i couldnt do it anymore, and everything returned into people shouting, children cscremaing, dogs barking...

i also believe that i ultimately control all of my feelings. i can decide to feel whatever i want to feel. my feels are a mere reflection of my thinking. but since i see no point in hedonism, unless i feel like ive taken care of every problem i have, then i give myself small pauses to have an intense pleasurous moments.

your turn, and remember to mention your psychological attributes.
 

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Haha, here is where the INFJ and INTJ differ, I see… as I don’t quite understand a single thing you just said (no offense; I just can’t/don’t think that way).

Anyways, I don’t think I have any uncommon beliefs. I don’t believe that I can control other peoples’ pain, emotional atmospheres, and I have no idea what you mean by an aura. Death is out of my hands so I don’t dwell on it.

I enjoy philosophy, but relevant philosophy, not just random and chaotic speculations; I particularly dislike debating something for the sake of debating something. If it doesn’t come to a neat, tidy end (something you could actually work with), I don’t like it, and it just seems like a waste of time.
SO, I tend to immerse myself in the concerns of politics, society, industry, environment… I want to improve things. I suppose my “uncommon beliefs” would involve less auras and the unconscious, and focus more on politics and society, the justice or education or health system, gun control, organized religion, companies that are destroying the world, bioethics and science in general. For example, whether this is an “uncommon belief” or not, I’m a libertarian. And I think that solar power is the next best thing (a deeply uncommon belief where I’m from, where 90% of the people work on the rigs or make money from them in some way). And as a Christian, an uncommon belief may be that I think homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexualism is completely fine and they should be able to marry/adopt children/be treated like decent human beings.

Yep… It’s all very boring compared to your uncommon beliefs, I must say. I agree with you that people can control their feelings - some are just better at it than others, or are able to recognize it and use it whereas others cannot/refuse to do so.
 

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My uncommon beliefs would be more faith-related. As I've said before on here, I'm one of the VERY rare Christian INTPs. Growing up in church I was taught a lot of erroneous doctrine, and swallowed it unwittingly, but as I got older, I saw it for the hypocrisy that it was. After a LONG study of the Bible, and endless mental debates, I have finally discovered the true doctrine of the Gospel, which has been so distorted by man that I am surprised at discovering it. However, all the credit does not go to me. It all started when a read Leo Tolstoy's Christian manifesto called "My Religion: What I Believe". In that book he points out just how badly the church has perverted Christ's teachings over time, clarifies multiple contradictions in the Bible that used to bother me, and shows the sheer mind-blowing wisdom of Jesus's words. But then, when I began to share this enlightenment with other Christians, they would throw their beloved depravity-doctrine in my face, and whine about how no one will ever be capable of doing Christ's commands, because humans are so "evil." But regardless of what these sheep do or say, this is what I have come to believe. My uncommon belief is that believing in Christ consists of believing in His teaching, rather than in His physical body, as mainstream Christianity teaches. That's not to say that I don't believe that Christ rose from the grave and walked the earth, but that I place less importance on that fact than I do His actual words. There's a silly doctrine in protestantville which says that if a person believes in Christ's divinity, it will "cause" them to do good things. I could never accept this. There are plenty of professing Christians who make a mockery of Jesus by their lifestyle, have never helped a poor person in their life, and would stick a knife in your back without blinking. Are these good things? Of course not. And on top of this, they teach that putting Christ's words into practice will profit a person nothing, when Jesus Christ specifically says in the Gospel of Matthew that He will reward each man according to his deeds. After studying the Bible, I have come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ and His teachings are one and the same, and to believe in Him is to believe in His words, seeing them as the one true answer to life (To be specific, the sermon on the mount). I've never told anyone in my church these things, because I'm certain that they would have a cow and call me heretic, throwing their man-invented doctrines in my face. It's certainly an uncommon belief among Christians.
 

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l don't believe that you can actually taste the chives in sour cream and sometimes wonder if other people are having a psychosomatic response.

Hmm, maybe a better way to put it is that l don't necessarily disbelieve it...but have some concerns.
 

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I'm only going to list one, as it is kind of a long explanation- I am against gender stereotypes, biases, and general dissection, including the concept of transgenderism. I don't believe in gender in general. I believe your sex has nothing to do with your personality or appearance, but your sex specific parts and chromosomes. Who you are is defined by your personality, and your personality does not define what you physically are.
Society has come up with an idea of what they think an ideal male or female should be like and they have degraded both males and females by imposing their standards. Human beings are all different. A male or female may not show traits that perhaps most do, but it does not make them any less justified as a male or female. Because they have not been validated as being the sex that they are by society, some people have been at times ashamed of themselves or convinced that they are not indeed what they are, which is unhealthy and emotionally damaging (a sort of self rejection that is entirely unneccessary because they are simply looking at it the wrong way.) It makes me sad that a number of people are confused and can not accept their natural born sex because society has pushed their gender standards onto them. They are told "this is what a male is like" or "this is what a female is like" and feel that if they differ from that they MUST be the opposite gender. To link up a personality or preference in things you like to sex is insulting and degrading. We are all qualified as the sex we are born, BECAUSE we are the sex we are born. I do not believe in the ideals that someone else somewhere has set up, just because of a commonality. There is a full spectrum in both sexes. No one, is "mentally" anything but people, because that is implying that the minds of females and males are different things. Though there may be a typical norm, this is not true. The people themselves exemplify this by the very differences they use to justify the idea of transgender! Because people could not accept the minds and tastes of these people they feel they must not be what they are! In the process causing emotional turmoil and confusion that is unhealthy and entirely unnecessary. If you were born a male, you are a male, regardless of your likes and emotions. If you were born a female, you are a female, regardless of your likes and emotions. Your likes and emotions and personality are what makes you a beautiful person, and nothing else.
 

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my empathy sometimes gets into an overdrive, and if someone in the same space i spend time with, even if i dont look at them at all.. i can feel all their hidden pain, problems, insanity, emptiness, anxiety... its awful. and i know its also all right, because the people always say yes if i ask them about those things i feel from them.
That's how my INFJ close friend/roommate for the past 3 years is! She catches onto my emotions when they're, in my opinion, completely hidden. Like one time I opened up about being extra stressed about food and my self-image (I used to have an eating disorder that had stopped a year or two prior to that), and she was like yeah, I've noticed that this past week. I was thinking what?! Soo weird... We also spent about an hour one time deciding what each of our friends' aura types are, but we couldn't actually see them. Anyway, I like you INFJs! I can't think of any specifically uncommon beliefs that I personally have, though. I'm sure they're there.
 

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Polygamy is fine as long as all participants consent to it. I personally couldn't see myself being involved in a relationship to do with polygamy, but if others see it that way then it should be allowed.

Stereotypes are currently a necessary illusion, that people should learn to let go of whether it be based on gender, race, or economic status.

Agnosticism makes the most sense.
 

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My uncommon beliefs would be more faith-related. As I've said before on here, I'm one of the VERY rare Christian INTPs. Growing up in church I was taught a lot of erroneous doctrine, and swallowed it unwittingly, but as I got older, I saw it for the hypocrisy that it was. After a LONG study of the Bible, and endless mental debates, I have finally discovered the true doctrine of the Gospel, which has been so distorted by man that I am surprised at discovering it. However, all the credit does not go to me. It all started when a read Leo Tolstoy's Christian manifesto called "My Religion: What I Believe". In that book he points out just how badly the church has perverted Christ's teachings over time, clarifies multiple contradictions in the Bible that used to bother me, and shows the sheer mind-blowing wisdom of Jesus's words. But then, when I began to share this enlightenment with other Christians, they would throw their beloved depravity-doctrine in my face, and whine about how no one will ever be capable of doing Christ's commands, because humans are so "evil." But regardless of what these sheep do or say, this is what I have come to believe. My uncommon belief is that believing in Christ consists of believing in His teaching, rather than in His physical body, as mainstream Christianity teaches. That's not to say that I don't believe that Christ rose from the grave and walked the earth, but that I place less importance on that fact than I do His actual words. There's a silly doctrine in protestantville which says that if a person believes in Christ's divinity, it will "cause" them to do good things. I could never accept this. There are plenty of professing Christians who make a mockery of Jesus by their lifestyle, have never helped a poor person in their life, and would stick a knife in your back without blinking. Are these good things? Of course not. And on top of this, they teach that putting Christ's words into practice will profit a person nothing, when Jesus Christ specifically says in the Gospel of Matthew that He will reward each man according to his deeds. After studying the Bible, I have come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ and His teachings are one and the same, and to believe in Him is to believe in His words, seeing them as the one true answer to life (To be specific, the sermon on the mount). I've never told anyone in my church these things, because I'm certain that they would have a cow and call me heretic, throwing their man-invented doctrines in my face. It's certainly an uncommon belief among Christians.
thats perhaps country relevant. some countries intentionally take their enemy (religion) and turn it into something completely different so those who would benefit from it cant do so. is it usa you live in?

like usa, which is a monopoly based infrastructure. based on sheer selfishness and manipulation, so im sure you can see why they would have to take out religion.
 

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I don't believe in hell for people ._.
Spoiler: Religion stuff below, hahas.
 

I'm a pick-and-choose Catholic, and I know that's bad, but some things just don't fit with my perspective, so it's hard xD When I was younger I'd just go for religion lessons and listen to whatever they had to say, just automatically accepted it. At 12/13 I graduated from my primary school and met lots of people who weren't Catholics - Got to see their views, allowed myself to consider them. By 14 I'd drifted quite a lot from my faith and got confused. If God was all-loving and all-accepting, why would he reject LGBTs? Why would he be against divorce if he wanted us to be happy? And then I asked myself: Why would God condemn people to hell if he loved us so much?

My answer to that question was that God would only condemn those who didn't seek forgiveness. Which made sense, but what about people who didn't believe in him? Obviously they wouldn't seek forgiveness from him for anything. Would he still love them? I'm not sure why, but I convinced myself that he did xD

Went for a camp sometime after I'd been convinced, and there this guy was trying to show us the effect of sins by getting a volunteer to sit on a chair and hold on end of a roll of string, then wrapping the rest of the string around that volunteer (and the chair!) as he recited sins that we might commit in the future or already have. The end of that demonstration had the most impact on me. He retraced his steps and wrapped the string around his hand instead as he did so, then said that was what God would do when we died. He would take all of our sins upon himself, then say "My son, you are free to go." To heaven.

How ironic that that camp convinced me that hell cannot possibly exist for humans happened in the same Church that warned us repeatedly about hell.

 

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I have so many, since I spend so much time trying to figure out my opinion on something I've experienced.

1. The best part of going to a party or hanging out with someone is thinking afterwards of everything I saw and felt, trying to figure out how those things fit in with how that person is to me. How I feel about the person, what kind of individual it means they are. Things like that.

2. I believe that most conventional beliefs/traditions/etc. are odd or don't make sense. I love the idea of falling in love with someone, then moving in with them and having kids, and considering yourself married. I don't understand what the importance of a wedding is, or why two people in love can't just decide one day that their relationship status is married.

3. Labels - why do people need labels for all sorts of relationships or people in their lives? This person means this to me and a conventional label doesn't fit it exactly, so what's the point? I have a really hard time defining who my best friends/good friends/regular friends are. I just know some are closer and I like them better.

4. I don't define my success in life by the same standards as most people. Most people are looking for a great career, a great relationship/marriage, a nice family someday, to be rich, or some sort of combination.

I guess I define success by my happiness, but that's a big blob of Fi and most people won't understand the things involved.
 

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- (This goes in line with what @RadiantViolet was saying.) Other females have continually shamed me for following my own pattern of behavior, and done all their little social punishments: exile, gossip, backbiting, underhanded comments in public, and so forth. Men either go at me like I'm yet another female, or inform me that I have no relevant life experiences to relate to their lives with. ("You don't understand how hard our life is. As a woman, you automatically have support.") I am continually shocked by external commentary when I see myself as simply living; I see myself as a person and only acknowledge being female in that it's a biological fact. So, according to feedback from outside opinion, I ultimately know nothing about being a human being. :tongue:


- I strive to stand up for what I believe in, and still respect humanity as a whole. I treat my opponents as equals, stay away from underhanded tactics, and use direct communication. Therefore, I have "lost" most of my battles.

- I do have religious and spiritual beliefs that I have spent years questioning, seeking, and refining (another one of the few INTPs to be of a Christian cut). They are another source of criticism and attempted shame by others.
 

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Nearly all my beliefs are uncommon; that's what happens when most people in society aren't interested in asking questions. :D But they're all rational - or at least I have a bright searchlight for illogical beliefs, and when I see one I run at it and squash it. :)
 
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