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There's a weird condition in my mother's family, 5 years seems to be more like their own generation from what I observed. For example my relatives born in:
1957&1962
1974&1979
1980&1985
1985&1990
1994&1999
1995&2000
2000&2005

They always related well to each other and they have endless topics to talk about LOL (I don't know why)

Age gap beyond 5 years seems to be more like a big age gap for them, for example:
1957&1964
1964&1971
1965&1971
1974&1980
1979&1985
1994&2000
1994&2001
1995&2001

They rarely related to each other......
 

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There's a weird condition in my mother's family, 5 years seems to be more like their own generation from what I observed. For example my relatives born in:
1957&1962
1974&1979
1980&1985
1985&1990
1994&1999
1995&2000
2000&2005

They always related well to each other and they have endless topics to talk about LOL (I don't know why)

Age gap beyond 5 years seems to be more like a big age gap for them, for example:
1957&1964
1964&1971
1965&1971
1974&1980
1979&1985
1994&2000
1994&2001
1995&2001

They rarely related to each other......
cool observation there Howard, yeah the people born in the year 5 usually doesnt belong to anything
they are always on the cuspy side when it comes to generations (for example 1975 being core/late X cusp, 1985 early/core millennial cusp and so on)

their childhoods are always split between two decades (no matter what people on forums like these say) considering adolescence begins at age 10 https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/teen/Pages/Stages-of-Adolescence.aspx

their teen years are sort of split and of course their 20s are split between two decades

basically people born in the middle parts of decades dont belong to anything lol
 

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This is what i kind of think right now, in terms of the span of X,Y, and Z:

Gen X = 1965-1980

1965-1966 = Boomer/X cusp
1967-1970 = Early X
1971-1974 = Core X
1975-1977 = Late X
1978-1980 = X/Y cusp

Gen Y = 1981-1996

1981-1983 = X/Y cusp
1984-1986 = Early Y
1987-1991 = Core Y
1992-1994 = Late Y
1995-1996 = Y/Z cusp

Gen Z = 1997-2012

1997-1999 = Y/Z cusp
2000-2002 = Early Z
2003-2007 = Core Z
2008-2009 = Late Z
2010-2012 = Z/Alpha cusp
 

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This is what i kind of think right now, in terms of the span of X,Y, and Z:

Gen X = 1965-1980

1965-1966 = Boomer/X cusp
1967-1970 = Early X
1971-1974 = Core X
1975-1977 = Late X
1978-1980 = X/Y cusp

Gen Y = 1981-1996

1981-1983 = X/Y cusp
1984-1986 = Early Y
1987-1991 = Core Y
1992-1994 = Late Y
1995-1996 = Y/Z cusp

Gen Z = 1997-2012

1997-1999 = Y/Z cusp
2000-2002 = Early Z
2003-2007 = Core Z
2008-2009 = Late Z
2010-2012 = Z/Alpha cusp
yes thats a good estimation of the generations too, the Millennial generation should start in the early 80s and end in the mid 90s
however the late 90s borns who claim to be millenials are lying to themselves akin to how early 80s borns claim to be the last facets of Gen X lol
 

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I was born in 1996 which makes me a late Millennial, but a couple of sources I've come across list 1995 as the cut-off year for Generation Y. Overall I still believe that I'm a Millennial because I identify with some "core" Millennial traits much more than with Generation Z.

-I didn't have access to a smartphone until I was 12, which means I spent pretty much all of my childhood without stuff like iPhone and iPod etc. I see kids these days play games on their phones and iPads starting from a young age. Back when I was their age the Playstation 2, a couple of MMOs, and some books made me happy.

-Generation Z is sometimes referred to as being more traditional minded than Generation Y. According to some studies, Generation Z cares more about traditional indicators of "well-being" such as owning a house, marriage, job security / promotions, can have more traditionally minded gender roles, and value structures / customs. Other than wanting to get married (out of personal will rather than out of compliance with social norms and rites of passage-I think the whole RoP idea is utterly insane and stupid), none of these apply to me. In fact, part of me is a bit skeptical about marriage as an institution of the state. I absolutely plan on spending the rest of my life with one person, but I don't like the state sticking its nose into any of my business. I am an anarchist deep down and I value my personal privacy and freedom way too much. However, part of me is still attached to the idea of marriage.

-I'm less tech savvy than a lot of my younger contemporaries and I'd imagine myself to be totally clueless when it comes to the stuff that the children of today will access once they get older. It doesn't really bother me anyway that I've fallen really behind when it comes to tech, because I feel a lot of the stuff is unnecessary anyway and I have worries about the future of technology as it's increasingly used for less-than-noble purposes.

-I've heard that Generation Y is less socially and politically active on average than Generation Z. I wish these kids good luck if they're really trying to make the world a better place, though a lot of the stuff that's been happening doesn't resonate with my values. If it's true that Generation Z's more politically and socially active while Y's more averse to stuff like politics, then I identify much more with Y than Z.

-I feel like both Y and Z are, on average, more international-minded than previous generations. I'm all for a degree of healthy diversity, but I'm far from being the most open to new ideas and new cultures. The vast majority of my friends are of the same ethnicity as me, but that could simply be because I've spent pretty much all my life surrounded by an ethnic enclave of sorts.

Personally I feel Z starts in 1998. The individuals I know born in 1997, some are showing Generation Z traits, some are still more Millennial. Overall I'd say those born in '97 are still part of Y. Keep in mind 1998 is when Neptune really moves into Aquarius, in 1997 it moved for a while back into Capricorn.

However, when it comes to actually classifying individuals it's much more complex than just labeling them as Gen X, Y, or Z. Remember that we're all different, of different natures and upbringings.

I do notice that I tend to have an easier time befriending people who are older than me. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. Even when I was a kid there were some who told me I already possessed, in some ways, wisdom beyond my years. At the same time, I've managed to retain my innocence and being child-like. Not to boast about myself but this combination has made me quite charismatic.
 

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To further my opinion on generations, between Baby Boomers and Gen Z, obviously, the oldest in a generation will not have more in common with the youngest in the same generation than the youngest in the previous generation. Two sub-generations could work in a generations with the first-wave and the second-wave. The oldest and middle part of the first-wave will have some residual influences with the previous generation. The youngest of the first-wave and oldest of the second-wave will be the core of the entire generations. The middle and the youngest part of the second-wave will have some future influences into the next generation. So here's how it could go:

Baby Boomers: b. 1946-1964

Post-War Boomers: b. 1946-1955
The ones fighting in the Vietnam War, born shortly after WWII, with a boom of babies, hence the term "Baby Boomers". Their childhood was mainly in the 1950s, and even the early 1960s, were hippies and were the ones taking part in Woodstock in the 1960s. Their youth mainly ran in the 1960s, through the 1970s, and the 1950s at the earliest. They also grew up in the civil rights era of MLK and the Kennedy assassinations. They would mainly be children of the first-half of the Greatest Generation, born in the 1910s. They would mainly be parents of Generation Y, born in the 1980s.

Celebrities: Donald Trump, Cher, Mr. T, Arnold Schwarzenegger, John Travolta, Denzel Washington, Patrick Swayze, Hulk Hogan, Sylvester Stallone, Hillary Clinton, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, etc.

Generation Jones: b. 1955-1964
The ones who were into disco in the 1970s, birth rate was still high, but not as high as those in the PWB cohort. Their childhood was mainly in the 1960s and even the early 1970s. Their youth mainly ran in the 1970s, through the 1980s, and the 1960s at the earliest. They were the last to be born during a time of segregation and mainly grew up with things like the Watergate scandal, Roe v. Wade law of 1973, the Gay Rights Movement, Feminism, etc. They would mainly be children of the second-half of the Greatest Generation, born in the 1920s. They would mainly be parents of Millennials, born in the tail-end of 1980s, and the early-mid 1990s.

Celebrities: Michael Jackson, Bryan Cranston, Bill Gates, Kris Jenner, Maddona, Prince, Brad Pitt, Lisa Kudrow, Jim Carrey, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman, Eddie Murphy, etc.

Generation X: b. 1965-1980

MTV Generation: b. 1965-1972
They were all children in the 1970s, had their youth mainly in the 1980s, starting in the 1970s, and even going into the 1990s. They grew up during the AIDS epidemic, the Ronald Reagan administration, the dying Cold War, the collapse of the USSR, the Challenger Explosion, etc. They are the first full post-segregation generation. They were into things like post-disco, arcade games, hair metal, new wave, early hip hop, MTV, etc. They would mainly be children of the Silent Generation, born in the 1930s. They would mainly be parents of Centennials, born in the late 1990s and the first-half of the 2000s.

Celebrities: Robert Downey, Jr., Lavar Ball, Will Smith, Charlie Sheen, Chris Rock, Marlon Wayans, Dwayne Johnson, Snoop Dogg, Tupac Shakur, Notorious B.I.G., Shaquille O'Neil, DMX, Jay-Z, Molly Ringwald, Ben Stiller, Elon Musk, etc.

Grunge Generation: b. 1973-1980
They were all children in the 1980s, had their youth in the 1990s, starting in the 1980s, and even going into the early 2000s. They grew up during the post-Cold War and post-USSR climate, death of Kurt Cobain, release of Windows 95, the golden era of video games, the OJ Simpson trial, the death of Princess Diana, the WTC and OKC bombings, the Bush, Sr. and Clinton administration. They were influenced by Grunge, home video games, sitcoms, gangsta rap, New Jack Swing, post-Grunge, etc. They were mainly children of the Civil Rights Generation, born in the late 1930s and 1940s. They would mainly be parents of the iGeneration, born from the mid 2000s up to the early 2010s.

Celebrities: John Cena, Kobe Bryant, Kanye West, Tom Brady, Randy Orton, Dolph Ziggler, Macaulay Culkin, Tobey Maguire, Angelina Jolie, Kim Kardashian, Kevin Hart, etc.

Generation Y/Millennials: b. 1981-1996

Generation Y: b. 1981-1988
They were mainly children in the 1990s, and even the late 1980s, had their youth run from the 1990s, mainly in the 2000s, and all born in the 1980s and in the Reagan administration. They mainly grew up during the rise of the Internet, Columbine, Y2K, 9/11, the Iraq War, the Bush, Jr. administration, the Great Recession, and further events of the 2000s. They were influenced by the golden era of things like Disney animated movies, technology, and video games, the 1990s optimism, the East Coast–West Coast hip hop rivalry, skate punk, teen pop, etc. They were mainly children of the Post-War Boomers, born in the 1940s and 1950s. They are mainly parents of the first-wave Generation Alpha, born in the mid-late 2010s and the beginning of the 2020s.

Celebrities: Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Childish Gambino, Dwyane Wade, Roman Reigns, Lebron James, Colin Kaepernick, Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Becky Lynch, Zac Efron, Shane Dawson, Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Roman Atwood, etc.

Millennials: b. 1989-1996
They were children in the 1990s and 2000s and had their youth run throughout the 2000s and 2010s. They mainly grew up during the rise of social media, transition from analog technology (Web 1.0) to digital technology (Web 2.0), transition from 20th and 21st century, the Obama administration, a post-9/11 climate, the rise of PC/SJW culture, etc. They were influenced by TV stations (Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.), Saturday morning cartoons, R&B, etc. They were mainly children of Generation Jones, born in the 1950s and 1960s. They will be mainly parents of the second-wave of Generation Alpha, born in the 2020s.

Celebrities: Joe Jonas, Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Tyler the Creator, Justin Bieber, Logan Paul, Zayn Malik, Ed Sheeran, Klay Thompson, Kyrie Irving, Sasha Banks, KSI, Cam Newton, Joel Embiid, Joey Bragg, David Dobrik, etc.

Generation Z: 1997-2012

Post-Millennials: b. 1997-2004
They were children mainly in the 2000s, and even the early 2010s, and had their youth throughout the 2010s and 2020s. They mainly grew up or will grow up during political turmoil, PC/SJW, social media and smartphones were becoming commonplace and reliable, school shootings becoming more common, the legalization of same-sex marriage, etc. They are among the last to be able to remember a time before smartphones were a thing, but probably don't remember a time before social media or the modern internet. They were influenced by TV stations (Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.), some analog tech before the quick transition to digital tech, modern video games (7th gen-present) and some retro video games (5th and 6th gen), nostalgia of the 1990s and even the early 2000s, etc. They were mainly children of the MTV Generation, born in the second-half of the 1960s and early 1970s. They will mainly be parents of the first-half of Generation Beta, born in the tail-end of the 2020s and the early-mid 2030s.

Celebrities: Jake Paul, James Charles, Zion Williamson, Lonzo and Lamelo Ball, Millie Bobby Brown, Zaire Wade, Peyton List, Jacob Sartorius, Loren Gray, Victoria Waldrip, Ariel Winter, Baby Ariel, Jace Norman, Sophia Grace, Jojo Siwa, etc.

iGeneration: b. 2005-2012
They were all children of the 2010s, and had their youth throughout the 2020s and some of the 2030s. They will probably grow up with future events of the 2020s. They are the first to be unable to remember a time, or even be alive before smartphones were a thing and stream cartoons and shows, instead of watching it on television in their childhoods and early adolescence. They are influenced by AR, VR, and other modern digital tech. They are mainly children of the Grunge Generation, born in the mid-late 1970s and the beginning of the 1980s. They will be parents of the second-half of Generation Beta, born in the late 2030s and first-half of the 2040s.

Celebrities: Ava Kolker, Mason Ramsay, Isaac Ryan Brown, Mia Talerico. (not too many notable celebrities here, obviously since this cohort is still pretty young.

Generation Alpha and onward are way too young or even nonexistant to talk about, as the oldest is only 6.

Whether it's accurate or not, these are my thoughts and it was inspired by a previous post by CaboBayCaptain1297, with his 9-year generational theory, just a few years back. I can't send the link, but the subforum is called "Statistics = Which Generation Raised Which".
 

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To further my opinion on generations, between Baby Boomers and Gen Z, obviously, the oldest in a generation will not have more in common with the youngest in the same generation than the youngest in the previous generation. Two sub-generations could work in a generations with the first-wave and the second-wave. The oldest and middle part of the first-wave will have some residual influences with the previous generation. The youngest of the first-wave and oldest of the second-wave will be the core of the entire generations. The middle and the youngest part of the second-wave will have some future influences into the next generation. So here's how it could go:

Baby Boomers: b. 1946-1964

Post-War Boomers: b. 1946-1955
The ones fighting in the Vietnam War, born shortly after WWII, with a boom of babies, hence the term "Baby Boomers". Their childhood was mainly in the 1950s, and even the early 1960s, were hippies and were the ones taking part in Woodstock in the 1960s. Their youth mainly ran in the 1960s, through the 1970s, and the 1950s at the earliest. They also grew up in the civil rights era of MLK and the Kennedy assassinations. They would mainly be children of the first-half of the Greatest Generation, born in the 1910s. They would mainly be parents of Generation Y, born in the 1980s.

Celebrities: Donald Trump, Cher, Mr. T, Arnold Schwarzenegger, John Travolta, Denzel Washington, Patrick Swayze, Hulk Hogan, Sylvester Stallone, Hillary Clinton, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, etc.

Generation Jones: b. 1955-1964
The ones who were into disco in the 1970s, birth rate was still high, but not as high as those in the PWB cohort. Their childhood was mainly in the 1960s and even the early 1970s. Their youth mainly ran in the 1970s, through the 1980s, and the 1960s at the earliest. They were the last to be born during a time of segregation and mainly grew up with things like the Watergate scandal, Roe v. Wade law of 1973, the Gay Rights Movement, Feminism, etc. They would mainly be children of the second-half of the Greatest Generation, born in the 1920s. They would mainly be parents of Millennials, born in the tail-end of 1980s, and the early-mid 1990s.

Celebrities: Michael Jackson, Bryan Cranston, Bill Gates, Kris Jenner, Maddona, Prince, Brad Pitt, Lisa Kudrow, Jim Carrey, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman, Eddie Murphy, etc.

Generation X: b. 1965-1980

MTV Generation: b. 1965-1972
They were all children in the 1970s, had their youth mainly in the 1980s, starting in the 1970s, and even going into the 1990s. They grew up during the AIDS epidemic, the Ronald Reagan administration, the dying Cold War, the collapse of the USSR, the Challenger Explosion, etc. They are the first full post-segregation generation. They were into things like post-disco, arcade games, hair metal, new wave, early hip hop, MTV, etc. They would mainly be children of the Silent Generation, born in the 1930s. They would mainly be parents of Centennials, born in the late 1990s and the first-half of the 2000s.

Celebrities: Robert Downey, Jr., Lavar Ball, Will Smith, Charlie Sheen, Chris Rock, Marlon Wayans, Dwayne Johnson, Snoop Dogg, Tupac Shakur, Notorious B.I.G., Shaquille O'Neil, DMX, Jay-Z, Molly Ringwald, Ben Stiller, Elon Musk, etc.

Grunge Generation: b. 1973-1980
They were all children in the 1980s, had their youth in the 1990s, starting in the 1980s, and even going into the early 2000s. They grew up during the post-Cold War and post-USSR climate, death of Kurt Cobain, release of Windows 95, the golden era of video games, the OJ Simpson trial, the death of Princess Diana, the WTC and OKC bombings, the Bush, Sr. and Clinton administration. They were influenced by Grunge, home video games, sitcoms, gangsta rap, New Jack Swing, post-Grunge, etc. They were mainly children of the Civil Rights Generation, born in the late 1930s and 1940s. They would mainly be parents of the iGeneration, born from the mid 2000s up to the early 2010s.

Celebrities: John Cena, Kobe Bryant, Kanye West, Tom Brady, Randy Orton, Dolph Ziggler, Macaulay Culkin, Tobey Maguire, Angelina Jolie, Kim Kardashian, Kevin Hart, etc.

Generation Y/Millennials: b. 1981-1996

Generation Y: b. 1981-1988
They were mainly children in the 1990s, and even the late 1980s, had their youth run from the 1990s, mainly in the 2000s, and all born in the 1980s and in the Reagan administration. They mainly grew up during the rise of the Internet, Columbine, Y2K, 9/11, the Iraq War, the Bush, Jr. administration, the Great Recession, and further events of the 2000s. They were influenced by the golden era of things like Disney animated movies, technology, and video games, the 1990s optimism, the East Coast–West Coast hip hop rivalry, skate punk, teen pop, etc. They were mainly children of the Post-War Boomers, born in the 1940s and 1950s. They are mainly parents of the first-wave Generation Alpha, born in the mid-late 2010s and the beginning of the 2020s.

Celebrities: Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Childish Gambino, Dwyane Wade, Roman Reigns, Lebron James, Colin Kaepernick, Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Becky Lynch, Zac Efron, Shane Dawson, Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Roman Atwood, etc.

Millennials: b. 1989-1996
They were children in the 1990s and 2000s and had their youth run throughout the 2000s and 2010s. They mainly grew up during the rise of social media, transition from analog technology (Web 1.0) to digital technology (Web 2.0), transition from 20th and 21st century, the Obama administration, a post-9/11 climate, the rise of PC/SJW culture, etc. They were influenced by TV stations (Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.), Saturday morning cartoons, R&B, etc. They were mainly children of Generation Jones, born in the 1950s and 1960s. They will be mainly parents of the second-wave of Generation Alpha, born in the 2020s.

Celebrities: Joe Jonas, Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Tyler the Creator, Justin Bieber, Logan Paul, Zayn Malik, Ed Sheeran, Klay Thompson, Kyrie Irving, Sasha Banks, KSI, Cam Newton, Joel Embiid, Joey Bragg, David Dobrik, etc.

Generation Z: 1997-2012

Post-Millennials: b. 1997-2004
They were children mainly in the 2000s, and even the early 2010s, and had their youth throughout the 2010s and 2020s. They mainly grew up or will grow up during political turmoil, PC/SJW, social media and smartphones were becoming commonplace and reliable, school shootings becoming more common, the legalization of same-sex marriage, etc. They are among the last to be able to remember a time before smartphones were a thing, but probably don't remember a time before social media or the modern internet. They were influenced by TV stations (Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.), some analog tech before the quick transition to digital tech, modern video games (7th gen-present) and some retro video games (5th and 6th gen), nostalgia of the 1990s and even the early 2000s, etc. They were mainly children of the MTV Generation, born in the second-half of the 1960s and early 1970s. They will mainly be parents of the first-half of Generation Beta, born in the tail-end of the 2020s and the early-mid 2030s.

Celebrities: Jake Paul, James Charles, Zion Williamson, Lonzo and Lamelo Ball, Millie Bobby Brown, Zaire Wade, Peyton List, Jacob Sartorius, Loren Gray, Victoria Waldrip, Ariel Winter, Baby Ariel, Jace Norman, Sophia Grace, Jojo Siwa, etc.

iGeneration: b. 2005-2012
They were all children of the 2010s, and had their youth throughout the 2020s and some of the 2030s. They will probably grow up with future events of the 2020s. They are the first to be unable to remember a time, or even be alive before smartphones were a thing and stream cartoons and shows, instead of watching it on television in their childhoods and early adolescence. They are influenced by AR, VR, and other modern digital tech. They are mainly children of the Grunge Generation, born in the mid-late 1970s and the beginning of the 1980s. They will be parents of the second-half of Generation Beta, born in the late 2030s and first-half of the 2040s.

Celebrities: Ava Kolker, Mason Ramsay, Isaac Ryan Brown, Mia Talerico. (not too many notable celebrities here, obviously since this cohort is still pretty young.

Generation Alpha and onward are way too young or even nonexistant to talk about, as the oldest is only 6.

Whether it's accurate or not, these are my thoughts and it was inspired by a previous post by CaboBayCaptain1297, with his 9-year generational theory, just a few years back. I can't send the link, but the subforum is called "Statistics = Which Generation Raised Which".
you are using Pews definition for Gen Y, and its a general consensus on this place that Pew alters their definitons year after whos in the young adult cohort, that definition was released last year and im sure that if Pew reasearch would do their study today it would be 1982-1997 for the millennials

and also 97-2004 is solidly gen Z, 1997 would be early Gen Z or a cusper and 2004 is actually core Gen Z
 

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I am using the Pew Definintion. I think those born in 1997-1999 have major influences from Millennials, but are slightly too young to fit the bill. Those born in the 2000s are definitely Gen Z. Those born in 2000-2002 are Early Z, with some decent Y influences, 2003-2007 are the quintessential Z'ers, Those born in 2008 and 2009 are Late Z, with some minor Alpha influences. Those born in 2010-2012 have major Alpha influences, but are too old to be in Gen Alpha. Without using cusps, 1997-2002 is Early Z, 2003-2007 is Core Z, 2008-2012 is Late Z.

If I'm wrong, Gen Z could either start in 1995, 2001, or even 2005.
I could be a Millennial, a cusp of Y and Z, or just straight-up Gen Z. At best, I am Early Z. I definitely don't fit all the requirements to be Core Z, in my opinion, despite what others might say.
 

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you are using Pews definition for Gen Y, and its a general consensus on this place that Pew alters their definitons year after whos in the young adult cohort, that definition was released last year and im sure that if Pew reasearch would do their study today it would be 1982-1997 for the millennials

and also 97-2004 is solidly gen Z, 1997 would be early Gen Z or a cusper and 2004 is actually core Gen Z
Pew used to say 18-34 year olds were Millennials, but in 2018 they officially decided that 1996 was the last Millennial birth year and 1981 was the first, and they will use that for all future publications.
 

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1999 here. The reason the cusp is a noticeable issue is that there's a clear microgeneration we've missed out. Just like 1977-1983 isn't quite X or Millennial, 1997-2003 isn't quite Millennial or Z.

Now as the 77-83 group call themselves the Oregon Trail generation after a popular game, we also need a similar name. We are the Club Penguin generation. Who's with me!
 

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1999 here. The reason the cusp is a noticeable issue is that there's a clear microgeneration we've missed out. Just like 1977-1983 isn't quite X or Millennial, 1997-2003 isn't quite Millennial or Z.

Now as the 77-83 group call themselves the Oregon Trail generation after a popular game, we also need a similar name. We are the Club Penguin generation. Who's with me!
That makes a lot of sense.
 

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1999 here. The reason the cusp is a noticeable issue is that there's a clear microgeneration we've missed out. Just like 1977-1983 isn't quite X or Millennial, 1997-2003 isn't quite Millennial or Z.

Now as the 77-83 group call themselves the Oregon Trail generation after a popular game, we also need a similar name. We are the Club Penguin generation. Who's with me!
I agree with you on the microgeneration aspect. There is definitely a transition between Millennials and Gen Z that researchers typically ignore. For some reason there's a clear one between Gen X and Gen Y that everyone always acknowledges- I don't know why people can't do the same for other generations.

Anyway, I disagree that 2003 is a transition year, for several reasons. They might even be the beginning of the core. Heck, even 2002 could be in the same boat. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, however, since they did mostly grow up in the 2000s and can vote next year.
 

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Gen Z begins in 1997 and honestly,it's not really debatable.Also there's is no such as a millennial/Gen Z cusp,especially being that youngest of millennials are very different from the oldest of Gen Zers,especially when it to childhood and teenage experiences.
 

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1999 here. The reason the cusp is a noticeable issue is that there's a clear microgeneration we've missed out. Just like 1977-1983 isn't quite X or Millennial, 1997-2003 isn't quite Millennial or Z.

Now as the 77-83 group call themselves the Oregon Trail generation after a popular game, we also need a similar name. We are the Club Penguin generation. Who's with me!
There' is totally wrong and laughable. 1997-2003 is pure Gen Z with no millennial overlap whatsoever.Also, there's is no such thing as a Gen Z/millennial cusper. Here how I would group Generation starting with Xennials

Xennials(Gen X/millennial cusp)- those born 1977-1984

Early millennials - 1983-1986

Core millennials - 1987-1991

Late millennials -1993-1996



early Gen Z - 1997-2004

core Gen Z - 2005-2010

late Gen Z - 2010-2014

Gen Z/Gen Alpha cusp - those born from 2011-2018
 

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There' is totally wrong and laughable. 1997-2003 is pure Gen Z with no millennial overlap whatsoever.Also, there's is no such thing as a Gen Z/millennial cusper. Here how I would group Generation starting with Xennials

Xennials(Gen X/millennial cusp)- those born 1977-1984

Early millennials - 1983-1986

Core millennials - 1987-1991

Late millennials -1993-1996



early Gen Z - 1997-2004

core Gen Z - 2005-2010

late Gen Z - 2010-2014

Gen Z/Gen Alpha cusp - those born from 2011-2018
There's no way someone born in 2004 is early Z when they were too young to even be in elementary school when the iPhone was released. Even 2003 is highly questionable.

2004 borns are core-Z at best.
 

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There's no way someone born in 2004 is early Z when they were too young to even be in elementary school when the iPhone was released. Even 2003 is highly questionable.

2004 borns are core-Z at best.
What's wrong with saying that 2004 is early Gen Z? I can barely tell a difference between someone born in 1998 and someone born in 2004.Once people born in 2004 become adults,I honesty see people born in the late 90s relating to people born in 2004 more than people born in the mid 90s. Also,there is no real difference between people born in 2002 and people in 2004,being that people born in 2002 weren't even in Elementary school until after the release of the first iphone. Also I have Gen Z lasting until 2014,so it's makes sense to put 2004 as early Gen Z or atleast a cusp between early Gen Z and core Gen Z.
 

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There's no way someone born in 2004 is early Z when they were too young to even be in elementary school when the iPhone was released. Even 2003 is highly questionable.

2004 borns are core-Z at best.
I totally agree with you. I think 2003 could possibly fit into Early Z, but since I go with the 1997-2012 mark, they would be the first Core Z'ers. 2004 would not only fit Core-Z, but they are the quintessential Gen-Z'ers, being the last of the Post-Millennial cohort of Gen Z, along with 2005 babies being the quintessential Gen-Z'ers, being the first of the iGen cohort of Gen Z. This makes the ultimate Gen Z class being those who graduated middle school recently are entering high school in the fall, Class of 2023, because they were born in 2004 and 2005. Core Z would probably end in 2006ish, or maybe 2007, and 2008 at the very latest.
 

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I totally agree with you. I think 2003 could possibly fit into Early Z, but since I go with the 1997-2012 mark, they would be the first Core Z'ers. 2004 would not only fit Core-Z, but they are the quintessential Gen-Z'ers, being the last of the Post-Millennial cohort of Gen Z, along with 2005 babies being the quintessential Gen-Z'ers, being the first of the iGen cohort of Gen Z. This makes the ultimate Gen Z class being those who graduated middle school recently are entering high school in the fall, Class of 2023, because they were born in 2004 and 2005. Core Z would probably end in 2006ish, or maybe 2007, and 2008 at the very latest.
Okay lets just say that 2003 and 2004 are cusp between early Gen Z and core Gen Z. Also I see Gen Z lasting past 2012,which is why I can see 2004 as early Gen Z along with people born from 1997-2003. Just becasue we know when Gen Z begins does not mean we know when Gen Z ends.Like I said there's really no difference between someone born in 2002 and someone born in 2004. Also, igen and Gen Z is basically the same thing since all Gen Z people(including late 90s/early 2000s babies) would've been too young remember a time before basically everything went digital.
 

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Okay lets just say that 2003 and 2004 are cusp between early Gen Z and core Gen Z. Also I see Gen Z lasting past 2012,which is why I can see 2004 as early Gen Z along with people born from 1997-2003. Just becasue we know when Gen Z begins does not mean we know when Gen Z ends.Like I said there's really no difference between someone born in 2002 and someone born in 2004. Also, igen and Gen Z is basically the same thing since all Gen Z people(including late 90s/early 2000s babies) would've been too young remember a time before basically everything went digital.
Absolutely wrong about that, bud. Those born in the late 90s and early 00s would definitely would remember a time before everything went digital, but they are too young to be Millennials, hence the term "Post-Millennial". Even those born in the mid 00s could possibly remember a pre-digital world, but they don't remember a pre-smartphone world, so they would be the start of the iGen cohort.
 
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