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After hanging around here, I noticed here are definitely different flavors of ENTP. I found this on a socionics website (ILE is equivalent to ENTP). I identify strongly with the Inventor subtype.

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Intuitive subtype (The Inventor)

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They differ in their excellent sense of novelty. They frequently become the originator of many inventions and discoveries. Unsurpassed generator of ideas. In their suggestions they is very daring. However, they easily drop a project if they are bored with it and they then feel drawn to a new, more captivating project. Capable of working well in business. Dynamic, talks rapidly, with many gestures. Frequently of stocky built, courageous appearance, whiskers (if a man). Great significance is attached to external appearance.

Meged/Ovcharov

Give the impression that they’re flying in the clouds, may appear childish/naïve. A socially adept conversationalist; read much and are inquisitive, willingly discuss new information with associates and are interested in their opinion. Their seemingly shy demeanour combines with coolness and obstinacy when they begin to defend their point of view. They like to discuss but rarely ever end these disputes in conflict. Often smile at associates without need of an occasion. Use an identical smile when they speak about both, ridiculous and serious, subject matter. Attempt being kind to all and do not take personal offence to remarks. In employment they are patient and, despite forgetfulness, tend to finish work which interests them. Gestures and speech seem either slowed down or accelerated. Pose with ease, appear absent-minded, gait and movements seem uncertain/weak-willed.

Sexual behavior

May appear sluggish but will respond reasonably and affectionately when assured of reciprocity. Loves prolonged preparations and therefore not inclined to hurry. Aim for new impressions and reacts diplomatically to avoid conflicts. Sexual interest tends to bear a periodic nature. With them it is necessary to show tolerance, modesty and restraint. They must firstly be provided with respect and confidence, in regards to their feelings, and then they will easily show initiative and enjoyment. Power in self-improvement is a source of happiness and pleasure.

Logical subtype (The Selector)

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Self-centred and pensive. Their ideas do not have direct connection with reality, for example philosophy, religion, bioenergetics etc. Their favourite occupation is comparing different logical systems. A type of office scientist. A very slim figure is characteristic for them. Angular in their movements, does not pay attention to external appearance, worry little about their health.

Meged/Ovcharov

The logical subtype tries to project the impression of a serious person. Can be sharp and, from time to time, even inconsiderate. They are self-assured and speak quickly, usually with a categorical tone. Are unduly categorical in their judgments and tend to impose their opinion on others. Sometimes appears energetic and self-confident; are impatient and cannot always wait for a speaker to finish before interrupting. Often take great new interests and try to find these a practical embodiment; will actively and vigorously defend their interests but after they flare up and offend someone they will consciously make note and try to correct their position. Very ambitious and prone to take offense to mere trifles, however, after a while will again return to an affable and benevolent state. Behaviors are unpredictable and full of contrast. Appear tenacious, gait and gestures seem confident but are poorly coordinated. Pose without restraint, capable of quickly closing a distance, may embrace or kiss the interlocutor.

Sexual behavior

Are somewhat distrustful of feelings, they will only show their own slowly and with time. When they are confident in love are initiative taking, affectionate, and take care to satisfy their partner; always improving sexual techniques. They need a decisive, emotional and sexual partner, capable of quickly convincing them of their feelings and providing reciprocity. It is necessary to make use of constant emotional stimuli: joke, coquetry, jealousy.
 

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Thanks for the post. I'm definitely a meged inventor. Great descriptions.
 

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Seems more selector for me....
 

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I'm more of an Inventor, but it's not an exact fit.
 

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That would depend on my mood. I can see myself as both depending on how I'm feeling so... my mood... right... I mentioned that.
but probably more often I'm like the former subtype.
 

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EXACTLY an inventor! The crusty people love me, but still thing I'm young and stupid. But if they ask me anything, I can show em how it's done ;)
 

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The inventor, I would say.

But you know, I recognize times in my life when under certain circumstances I've seemed like the latter type. I wonder if they are actually subtypes or just modes. Does a stressed and insecure ENTP act more like the selector description?
 
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But you know, I recognize times in my life when under certain circumstances I've seemed like the latter type. I wonder if they are actually subtypes or just modes. Does a stressed and insecure ENTP act more like the selector description?
That's possible, but I think I flip into an INTJ that is heavy on the Darth Vader or Jigsaw mode as my alter-ego. At least I get myself hyper-organized and efficient that way, but it's one reason INTJ avatars sort of scare me - I'm pretty sure I know what's going on in their heads.
 

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That's just their "gait" or "manner". It's like saying "we make things look easy", and we're chill about it.
Yeah, but even then....People always tell me I have an "expansive presence" and am very "authoritative." I don't really think so, -- I'm a very "chill" person -- but I figure that kind of ruins the whole "uncertain" and "weak-willed" manner thing.
 

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Yeah, but even then....People always tell me I have an "expansive presence" and am very "authoritative." I don't really think so, -- I'm a very "chill" person -- but I figure that kind of ruins the whole "uncertain" and "weak-willed" manner thing.
I took it to mean gait only. When I am consciously focused "on a mission," like getting in and out of a store quickly or going to a meeting, I'm literally on the verge of bowling people over. I have to consciously slow down opening an outward-swinging door because people on the other side can't jump out of the way as fast as I typically open it. When I'm walking around, lost in thought, body on autopilot, I'm guessing I may fit the description, but have never been told that.
 

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Of the two sub-types I'm more of an inventor, although there are quite a few attributes of the selector that fit me as well.
 

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Ha, I always have pretty thick whiskers going. 25 and grow a real good beard, but I look like I'm 15 when I shave, I can change persona's very easily.
 
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