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What is your type? What stereotypes about your type do you not conform to at all?
 

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That Hitler was supposed to be INFP. 馃檮馃槖
How did they come up with that. It's got to be one of the most stupid things I've read in a long time. How could an empathic accomodating feeler/negociator/idealist; focused on international common values among humans; send people into concentration camps, starve and torture them? Just saying.
 

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ISTP. I am not obsessed with cars.

Also, I'm not as down-to-earth as the stereotypes would suggest - I tend to daydream and imagine unrealistic scenarios when I'm doing boring stuff. I literally have a little world of characters built in my mind that I make stories out of.

Or maybe I'm a mistyped INTP. Who knows 馃檭
 

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That Hitler was supposed to be INFP. 馃檮馃槖
How did they come up with that. It's got to be one of the most stupid things I've read in a long time. How could an empathic accomodating feeler/negociator/idealist; focused on international common values among humans; send people into concentration camps, starve and torture them? Just saying.
I believe that Hitler was an INFJ. I've met 2-3 INFJ men who I could 100% see double-downing on the idea that a certain "type" of person is bad and worthy of elimination, and then I could see them actually taking steps to harm those people. If someone believes their feelings justify their actions, but their feelings are especially prone to rage and hatefulness due to childhood abuse or something, that can lead to violence really fast. Like one guy I knew who called himself an INFJ ran a money lending "operation," and would pay thugs to beat people up if they couldn't pay the money back with interest. I think with stuff like that, you're really heading down the road to being quite sociopathic. That isn't at all to say that all or most INFJ men are like that--not at all, I'm sure. But what I am trying to say is that I wouldn't depend on Myers-Briggs to describe someone's heart or moral character.
 

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I believe that Hitler was an INFJ. I've met 2-3 INFJ men who I could 100% see double-downing on the idea that a certain "type" of person is bad and worthy of elimination, and then I could see them actually taking steps to harm those people. If someone believes their feelings justify their actions, but their feelings are especially prone to rage and hatefulness due to childhood abuse or something, that can lead to violence really fast. Like one guy I knew who called himself an INFJ ran a money lending "operation," and would pay thugs to beat people up if they couldn't pay the money back with interest. I think with stuff like that, you're really heading down the road to being quite sociopathic. That isn't at all to say that all or most INFJ men are like that--not at all, I'm sure. But what I am trying to say is that I wouldn't depend on Myers-Briggs to describe someone's heart or moral character.
I agree completely with your view that the upbringing could have a lot to say, I actually thinks that's where the clue lies! I have written an assignment about him in college and that; combined with him being hypnothesized, brainwashed by peers, unemployed and jealous, was my conclution.
 

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I agree completely with your view that the upbringing could have a lot to say, I actually thinks that's where the clue lies! I have written an assignment about him in college and that; combined with him being hypnothesized, brainwashed by peers, unemployed and jealous, was my conclution.
Yeah, I seem to remember hearing that Hitler was horribly abused as a child. This loan shark fellow reported the same thing. That's not to say that people with abusive childhoods are horrible adults--that's an unfair and untrue stereotype. But I think in some people, early abuse really triggers something very, very dark that is hard to shake off.
 

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Yeah, I seem to remember hearing that Hitler was horribly abused as a child. This loan shark fellow reported the same thing. That's not to say that people with abusive childhoods are horrible adults--that's an unfair and untrue stereotype. But I think in some people, early abuse really triggers something very, very dark that is hard to shake off.
Hitler鈥檚 dad beat him a lot and wasn鈥檛 a great father, pretty bad. Hitler鈥檚 mum was actually sweet to him.
 

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That INTJs are these cold-hearted, robotic people with no feelings who shortcircuit in social situations. I function just fine in social events, I just don鈥檛 enjoy it and don鈥檛 like to attend. I鈥檓 not cold, I鈥檓 pretty neutral to most and warm to favoured people. Only cold to people I dislike. I definitely have a lot of feelings, doesn鈥檛 mean I share them though. And if I do, doesn鈥檛 mean I share everything.

I also don鈥檛 subscribe to the notion that INTJs are always plotting. We are not Disney villains. Sometimes we just exist, geez. Sure, we plot our future and try to predict the most likely outcome as much as possible before making decisions, but that鈥檚 about it as far as 鈥渕astermind鈥 goes (for me anyway). I always see people claim if you don鈥檛 scheme, you鈥檙e not INTJ blah blah. Oookay. I got a future plan for myself, but that doesn鈥檛 exactly involve and revolve around taking over the rest of the world, in fact I鈥檓 not interested in that kind of responsibility. Maybe if someone were to act on it for me. (Jk).
 

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That INTJs are these cold-hearted, robotic people with no feelings who shortcircuit in social situations. I function just fine in social events, I just don鈥檛 enjoy it and don鈥檛 like to attend. I鈥檓 not cold, I鈥檓 pretty neutral to most and warm to favoured people. Only cold to people I dislike. I definitely have a lot of feelings, doesn鈥檛 mean I share them though. And if I do, doesn鈥檛 mean I share everything to everyone.
This one hits really close to my type as well. I think most IXTX's are seen as cold, distant, and emotionless by stereotype.

Can relate to the social situations thing, though whether I like the social interaction depends entirely on the person(s) and my mood. I too have lots of feelings but I'm not open about it, and I don't take things as emotionally as others do. I don't cry over "sad" things others usually cry over, rather I take everything to analyze as information rather than how it should make me feel.
 
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This one hits really close to my type as well. I think most IXTX's are seen as cold, distant, and emotionless by stereotype.

Can relate to the social situations thing, though whether I like the social interaction depends entirely on the person(s) and my mood. I too have lots of feelings but I'm not open about it, and I don't take things as emotionally as others do. I don't cry over "sad" things others usually cry over, rather I take everything to analyze as information rather than how it should make me feel.
I agree with IXTX, especially IXTJ. I see it all the time. I even got called INFP (which is not an insult for me) for expressing my feelings in a vent. Like, what did they expect from a vent?

I also enjoy social events depending on who鈥檚 attending, what we are doing, frequency, and most especially, how long it is going to last. I just feel done with socialisation faster than others. So, I will attend that party, but I鈥檇 probably like to leave well before 1-2am. And after that, I won鈥檛 be interested in another one for a while. This was hard during uni because if you miss a couple parties, you just kind of hit a block in your new friendships lol.

I can relate to not taking things as emotionally as others for the most part. I can kind of step out of myself and review the situation without getting out of control with my emotions. I think my approach to things is from a fix-it or make-it-better perspective so if I cut myself, I want a first-aid kit, not someone to say aww, that must hurt. I have a generally emotional mum and this was the most useful thing I have ever discovered about her. She expects comfort and kind words first when she has a problem, not for me to fix it immediately. Would have saved me a lot of trouble and 鈥渄on鈥檛 be insensitive鈥 comments if I had known this from the start.
 

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I agree with IXTX, especially IXTJ. I see it all the time. I even got called INFP (which is not an insult for me) for expressing my feelings in a vent. Like, what did they expect from a vent?
I can relate to that, I tend to vent around people who are close to me (granted this is only like 1-4 people) and I probably came off as an Fi-dom too.

I also enjoy social events depending on who鈥檚 attending, what we are doing, frequency, and most especially, how long it is going to last. I just feel done with socialisation faster than others. So, I will attend that party, but I鈥檇 probably like to leave well before 1-2am. And after that, I won鈥檛 be interested in another one for a while. This was hard during uni because if you miss a couple parties, you just kind of hit a block in your new friendships lol.
I think what we'd be doing at a social event is extremely important, and as a reserved person I'd need to have at least one person I know well so I don't have to mingle with a bunch of strangers. I think staying for too long is draining, but with Se as my aux function I like to experience things a lot and kind of have FOMO, so I try to stay engaged even if my social battery gets drained.

I can relate to not taking things as emotionally as others for the most part. I can kind of step out of myself and review the situation without getting out of control with my emotions. I think my approach to things is from a fix-it or make-it-better perspective so if I cut myself, I want a first-aid kit, not someone to say aww, that must hurt. I have a generally emotional mum and this was the most useful thing I have ever discovered about her. She expects comfort and kind words first when she has a problem, not for me to fix it immediately. Would have saved me a lot of trouble and 鈥渄on鈥檛 be insensitive鈥 comments if I had known this from the start.
Yes, I understand and relate to this 100%! When people come to me with problems they typically know to ask "What should I do in this situation?" and not "Can you comfort me?" I'm horrible at comforting people and can't really empathize unless I've been through something similar.

I think my mom is an ISFJ, so already just by stereotype she's sensitive. When she vents I usually stay silent and chime in occasionally with "Why don't you try this?" or point out something illogical in her reasoning which she then could use to solve the problem. She's called me cold lots of times because of this, but I just can't feel things as deeply as she does and I think that's something people with Fi/Fe as their dom/aux don't understand about Ti/Te dom/aux's (again especially the IXTX's).
 

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I can relate to that, I tend to vent around people who are close to me (granted this is only like 1-4 people) and I probably came off as an Fi-dom too.


I think what we'd be doing at a social event is extremely important, and as a reserved person I'd need to have at least one person I know well so I don't have to mingle with a bunch of strangers. I think staying for too long is draining, but with Se as my aux function I like to experience things a lot and kind of have FOMO, so I try to stay engaged even if my social battery gets drained.


Yes, I understand and relate to this 100%! When people come to me with problems they typically know to ask "What should I do in this situation?" and not "Can you comfort me?" I'm horrible at comforting people and can't really empathize unless I've been through something similar.

I think my mom is an ISFJ, so already just by stereotype she's sensitive. When she vents I usually stay silent and chime in occasionally with "Why don't you try this?" or point out something illogical in her reasoning which she then could use to solve the problem. She's called me cold lots of times because of this, but I just can't feel things as deeply as she does and I think that's something people with Fi/Fe as their dom/aux don't understand about Ti/Te dom/aux's (again especially the IXTX's).
What's not to understand about it?
 

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What's not to understand about it?
As a strong Ti user I don't understand people who are more open about their emotions. So I'm guessing strong Fi/Fe users wouldn't understand our "lack of emotional expression" very well either.

I think Fi/Fe users who aren't familiar with MBTI/cognitive functions would just perceive IXTX's as emotionally distant people. I guess those are are familiar with MBTI would understand this more though, but those who aren't probably aren't as aware of how cognitive functions can work differently within people. For example, someone who's familiar with MBTI would see one of us struggling with emotional support and think, "their Fi/Fe is weak, so that'd be why they're not great at this," while someone who isn't familiar with the theory would think, "they're just uncaring and cold."
 
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As a strong Ti user I don't understand people who are more open about their emotions. So I'm guessing strong Fi/Fe users wouldn't understand our "lack of emotional expression" very well either.

I think Fi/Fe users who aren't familiar with MBTI/cognitive functions would just perceive IXTX's as emotionally distant people. I guess those are are familiar with MBTI would understand this more though, but those who aren't probably aren't as aware of how cognitive functions can work differently within people. For example, someone who's familiar with MBTI would see one of us struggling with emotional support and think, "their Fi/Fe is weak, so that'd be why they're not great at this," while someone who isn't familiar with the theory would think, "they're just uncaring and cold."
I know someone who scored ISTP and I have seen them cry and say I love you and be extremely supportive in harsh times. Not gonna say much more about that I think...but they are generally very kind, caring and sweet.
 

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I鈥檓 an INFJ- (have mistyped as INFP and even considered ISFJ and ENFJ)

I鈥檝e seen many descriptions of INFJS being 鈥渇iery activists鈥...

Now, I do have causes close to my heart and I stand by my principles. And I have my moments where I am openly passionate... but they鈥檙e very rare. I鈥檓 not that 鈥渇iery鈥 or fitted to the 鈥渁ctivist persona鈥.

Oh, and the doorslam....

I have done it, but I can鈥檛 easily cut people out of my life. It鈥檚 very difficult for me.

Please correct me if I got any stereotypes wrong!
 

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I鈥檓 an INFJ- (have mistyped as INFP and even considered ISFJ and ENFJ)

I鈥檝e seen many descriptions of INFJS being 鈥渇iery activists鈥...

Now, I do have causes close to my heart and I stand by my principles. And I have my moments where I am openly passionate... but they鈥檙e very rare. I鈥檓 not that 鈥渇iery鈥 or fitted to the 鈥渁ctivist persona鈥.

Oh, and the doorslam....

I have done it, but I can鈥檛 easily cut people out of my life. It鈥檚 very difficult for me.

Please correct me if I got any stereotypes wrong!
I wonder which type that hasn't done the door slam...馃檮
 

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I鈥檓 an INFJ- (have mistyped as INFP and even considered ISFJ and ENFJ)

I鈥檝e seen many descriptions of INFJS being 鈥渇iery activists鈥...

Now, I do have causes close to my heart and I stand by my principles. And I have my moments where I am openly passionate... but they鈥檙e very rare. I鈥檓 not that 鈥渇iery鈥 or fitted to the 鈥渁ctivist persona鈥.

Oh, and the doorslam....

I have done it, but I can鈥檛 easily cut people out of my life. It鈥檚 very difficult for me.

Please correct me if I got any stereotypes wrong!
Maybe this is normal behaviour? If anything I do kinda opposite to doorslam? If I doorslam, its very one way... no going back... so I give the other person EVERY opportunity to turn back, give them the benefit of the doubt. Try to reconcile. Coz I hate being in "the wrong". Or worse... crawling back and begging for forgiveness... urgh!

Leaving relationships for me isn't so dramatic. It's more like I let them go and not bother to call back. or sort things out. And its what they want anyway.
(But it feels ultra over-dramatic in my head! lol no one really gives an F IRL)
 
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