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What's the difference between Ti-Fe in ESTP and Fi-Te in ESFP?
Mainly Fe vs Fi and Te vs Ti, also differences between Ti-Fe axis vs Fi-Te. There are many people who have a developed tertiary, so "am I more T or more F?" doesn't work; an ESTP may be more F than an ESFP.
Ti-Fe vs Fi-Te:

The Principles of Cognitive Function Theory MBTI-notes - Type Theory
The Principles of Cognitive Function Theory MBTI-notes - Type Theory

Also this: (taken from here: Type Spotting Guide - Type Theory)

If you are stuck between two types who share the same dominant and inferior functions, there are two things you can do to figure out the auxiliary and tertiary functions:

Go back to the dominant function descriptions to look for clues about the auxiliary function. The auxiliary function is not exactly like a dominant because it assists the dominant, however, for many healthy people, the auxiliary can look a lot like the dominant in observable behavior. For instance, ISFJs can look similar to ESFJs in being sociable and compassionate with high Fe, therefore, if you are stuck between ISFJ (Fe aux) and ISTJ (Te aux), examine whether the person better resembles an ESFJ or ESTJ in both strengths (dominant function) and weaknesses (inferior function or function failures).

The auxiliary function is what makes a person psychologically healthy, thus, an underdeveloped auxiliary function or a failure to use it appropriately often results in dysfunctional behavior. The tertiary function is the childish aspect of personality. A person tends to misuse the tertiary whenever their ego feels threatened, childishly defending themselves against failure or criticism (instead of confronting it maturely). Therefore, look at any stubborn or defensive behaviors that produce self-inflicted problems. (Read up on tertiary temptation in order to understand this function better.)

Se or Ne dominant:

Ti-Fe (ExTP): Healthy auxiliary Ti should make an extravert more analytical in correctly calculating which decisions are most likely to produce beneficial results for everyone involved. However, a person can childishly resist Ti with tertiary Fe to twist social perception in favor of their missteps/misdeeds. The result is thoughtless or devious behavior that leads to self-inflicted loss of relationship or social support.

Fi-Te (ExFP): Healthy auxiliary Fi should make an extravert more ethical and honorable in how they make decisions in order to avoid unhealthy behaviors that end up sabotaging goals. However, a person can childishly resist Fi with tertiary Te to obtain immediate but superficial benefits or rewards. The result is unhealthy or destructive behavior that leads to self-inflicted pain and suffering.
Sometimes the tertiary function seems more obvious than the auxiliary to onlookers. It is quite common that your first impression of a person comes from their tertiary function because people frequently use it as a visible tool, though it is not the true core of their personality. Since the dominant and tertiary functions point in the same e/i direction and tend to work in tandem, it can be difficult to order them correctly. When it is obvious that both functions are present but you are having difficulty determining which one is higher/lower in the stack, you can: 1) use the inferior function as key evidence and 2) use tertiary looping patterns to see which auxiliary function would heal their unhealthy tendencies.

Generally speaking, when comparing the dominant and tertiary, a person is more likely to misuse the tertiary due to its lower position, which means that tertiary use is more likely to produce problems or failure.

Se or Ne dominant:

Tertiary Fe (ExTP): Tertiary Fe often makes a person seem friendly and charming, which can easily be mistaken as Fe dominant. However, tertiary Fe often has a conniving underside, more likely to treat people instrumentally as tools/objects for self-centered gain (due to higher Ti). Tertiary Fe is more likely to produce relationship failures.

Tertiary Te (ExFP): Tertiary Te often makes a person seem determined and commanding, which can easily be mistaken as Te dominant. However, tertiary Te often has a desperate bent, more likely to be controlling as a means to make up for some underlying feeling of inadequacy or low self-esteem (due to higher Fi). Tertiary Te is more likely to produce negative outcomes or unintended consequences.
Also here: at the I-Type Dynamics chapter, sub-chapters 3&4.
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