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I coasted along till now thinking I was a 7 and was happy with my pick of comedians/comediennes (including the supremely amusing, talented Mr. Ferguson :heart:), talk show folks and literary characters, actors. But now the Universe has just tilted itself on its head. I might be a 3! :shocked:

Come on peeps, give me some good Type 3 celebs. Especially comedians, thinkers, literary characters, authors. And, anybody else you want to mention as long as they are reasonably well - known. If not, onus of providing information about their fame/work is on you ;)

Preferably no sports players cuz I don't really follow that.
 
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Jimmy Carr is a 3w2 for sure. He's a comedian and hosts a lot of shows.

There's also Jack Whitehall.

There are a couple comedians I think could be 3s but it's hard to tell so I don't want to bring them up (possible 3 candidates imo: John Mulaney, Rob Brydon, Andy Samberg, but also see 9, 2, and 7 as strong candidates for probably all of them)

Recently watched 'Fary is the New Black' on Netflix and Fary gave me strong 3 vibes but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

Plenty of 3 celebrities in this world, of course, those are the comedians I can think of atm
 
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Jimmy Carr is a 3w2 for sure. He's a comedian and hosts a lot of shows.

There's also Jack Whitehall.

There are a couple comedians I think could be 3s but it's hard to tell so I don't want to bring them up (possible 3 candidates imo: John Mulaney, Rob Brydon, Andy Samberg, but also see 9, 2, and 7 as strong candidates for probably all of them)

Recently watched 'Fary is the New Black' on Netflix and Fary gave me strong 3 vibes but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

Plenty of 3 celebrities in this world, of course, those are the comedians I can think of atm
I am going to check out their work. I love Mulaney and Samberg! But Mulaney's Delta Airlines sketch always seemed like he was showing a 9 side to him for sure like when he said "Like you can do anything to me, and I'd be okay with it". LOL. If you haven't seen, I strongly recommend that you do. It is highly enjoyable.

Does 3 comedy have a particular flavour to it? Did Robin Williams have a 3 fix to him, maybe?
 
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I am going to check out their work. I love Mulaney and Samberg! But Mulaney's Delta Airlines sketch always seemed like he was showing a 9 side to him for sure like when he said "Like you can do anything to me, and I'd be okay with it". LOL. If you haven't seen, I strongly recommend that you do. It is highly enjoyable.

Does 3 comedy have a particular flavour to it? Did Robin Williams have a 3 fix to him, maybe?
I love that sketch haha! Also quite relatable to me :D I don't know about his type (Mulaney), his image is fairly 9 I think, and he could be a 9, but I think he could easily be a 3 as well, I do think 3s can have something not-3-ish as their chief image (ok, any type can do that, but I think there can be a self-branding there that doesn't necessarily look 3

Jimmy Carr, he's almost too 3, I can't remember any good clips (I think his stand-up style is not appealing to everyone, more or less a long string of risqué jokes but I find him very likable and funny, especially on panel shows and as a host. He has that quality of seeming very polished, even manufactured; something really 3ish I've noticed is that he has this very distinctive laugh, and it's definitely fake, he didn't do it before, but he established it as his 'thing', which is a sort of branding I associate with 3s. I can't remember any clips that would really show what I'm talking about but I think his 3ness is almost always obvious:



(The host of this show - which is hilarious, highly recommend, people tell stories and the other team have to guess if they are truth or lies - is one of the ones I mentioned as a possible 3 but I'm not sure about)

Anyways Jimmy Carr is the most obvious 3 example I can think of, might be too 3 to actually be a good example though :/

I'm not very familiar with Robin Williams - I'd guess 3 fix off the bat - but I don't really know enough to answer that question.
 
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I love that sketch haha! Also quite relatable to me :D I don't know about his type (Mulaney), his image is fairly 9 I think, and he could be a 9, but I think he could easily be a 3 as well, I do think 3s can have something not-3-ish as their chief image (ok, any type can do that, but I think there can be a self-branding there that doesn't necessarily look 3

Jimmy Carr, he's almost too 3, I can't remember any good clips (I think his stand-up style is not appealing to everyone, more or less a long string of risqué jokes but I find him very likable and funny, especially on panel shows and as a host. He has that quality of seeming very polished, even manufactured; something really 3ish I've noticed is that he has this very distinctive laugh, and it's definitely fake, he didn't do it before, but he established it as his 'thing', which is a sort of branding I associate with 3s. I can't remember any clips that would really show what I'm talking about but I think his 3ness is almost always obvious:



(The host of this show - which is hilarious, highly recommend, people tell stories and the other team have to guess if they are truth or lies - is one of the ones I mentioned as a possible 3 but I'm not sure about)

Anyways Jimmy Carr is the most obvious 3 example I can think of, might be too 3 to actually be a good example though :/

I'm not very familiar with Robin Williams - I'd guess 3 fix off the bat - but I don't really know enough to answer that question.
I will watch these videos once the Sun comes up. The problem with 3s or maybe the beauty of it.. however you wanna look at it is their chameleonic nature. John could be entirely putting up a front. Now Zach Woods. That guy seems like a 9-6/6-9 guy. So neurotic, conciliatory and adorably awkward.

Watch this one for a good laugh: https://youtu.be/C5zB17FeSQ8

Also I guess I am using this as an unorthodox method of finding my wing, lol. I have done a questionnaire if you want to go look at it, @Nissa Nissa. It is called In Pursuit of the Truth. I am trying to figure out my 3/7 deal and the 3w2/4 thing. And also this is just fun ;)
 
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listen to what he says and how he says, even up front within the first 10s of him speaking... "wow, its nice to do something real for a change"

he feels REAL when his energy is directed towards providing a service for others.

again after that , he wants to improve what is already there - hes 'noticed' the customers want stronger coffee so now they do 2 shots and something special to the milk. he has made this product BETTER

unconsciously a 3 is nothing... empty... it knows it isnt useful. it is useless, unworthy, no inherint value. (unhealthy)

consciously a 3 is looking for themself... and seeks this through acheiving and success for them self (average)

when a 3 finally finds what they were looking for, they project the energy outwards to the community:
sub-consciously a 3 wants to be useful, becuase in childhood it learned that being useful is rewarded and loved. doing, in the service of others and community will drive a 3. (healthy/englishtened/self actualized)

healthy 3's -
oprah
will smith
dwayne the rock johnson
arnold schwarzeneggar
tony robbins
tom cruise

https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-3/

all of this information is online btw :)
 

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I will watch these videos once the Sun comes up. The problem with 3s or maybe the beauty of it.. however you wanna look at it is their chameleonic nature. John could be entirely putting up a front. Now Zach Woods. That guy seems like a 9-6/6-9 guy. So neurotic, conciliatory and adorably awkward.

Watch this one for a good laugh: https://youtu.be/C5zB17FeSQ8

Also I guess I am using this as an unorthodox method of finding my wing, lol. I have done a questionnaire if you want to go look at it, @Nissa Nissa. It is called In Pursuit of the Truth. I am trying to figure out my 3/7 deal and the 3w2/4 thing. And also this is just fun ;)
Oh, I didn't think I knew who he was but he was on the Office! He was great on that show and he seems really likable here) should check out more about him

'that was hurtful' :laughing:

I'll check out your thread, thanks!

listen to what he says and how he says, even up front within the first 10s of him speaking... "wow, its nice to do something real for a change"

he feels REAL when his energy is directed towards providing a service for others.

again after that , he wants to improve what is already there - hes 'noticed' the customers want stronger coffee so now they do 2 shots and something special to the milk. he has made this product BETTER

unconsciously a 3 is nothing... empty... it knows it isnt useful. it is useless, unworthy, no inherint value. (unhealthy)

consciously a 3 is looking for themself... and seeks this through acheiving and success for them self (average)

when a 3 finally finds what they were looking for, they project the energy outwards to the community:
sub-consciously a 3 wants to be useful, becuase in childhood it learned that being useful is rewarded and loved. doing, in the service of others and community will drive a 3. (healthy/englishtened/self actualized)
Thanks so much for breaking this down :lovekitty:
 
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Oh, I didn't think I knew who he was but he was on the Office! He was great on that show and he seems really likable here) should check out more about him
I think he is one of the greats :applause: Somehow I am just drawn to 6 ish, 9 ish mild mannered comedians/comediennes. Not Chelsea Whatshername. I find her crass and annoying. Amy Schumer too. Not a whole lot of funny in there. Not my kind. And yeah, he was great on The Office. But Jim... *swoon* Actually that show had a stellar cast. ALL of them were amazing in their performances. Even Stanley. I want to check out Zach's current show as soon as I can. have you watched it?
 

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I love that sketch haha! Also quite relatable to me :D I don't know about his type (Mulaney), his image is fairly 9 I think, and he could be a 9, but I think he could easily be a 3 as well, I do think 3s can have something not-3-ish as their chief image (ok, any type can do that, but I think there can be a self-branding there that doesn't necessarily look 3

Jimmy Carr, he's almost too 3, I can't remember any good clips (I think his stand-up style is not appealing to everyone, more or less a long string of risqué jokes but I find him very likable and funny, especially on panel shows and as a host. He has that quality of seeming very polished, even manufactured; something really 3ish I've noticed is that he has this very distinctive laugh, and it's definitely fake, he didn't do it before, but he established it as his 'thing', which is a sort of branding I associate with 3s. I can't remember any clips that would really show what I'm talking about but I think his 3ness is almost always obvious:



(The host of this show - which is hilarious, highly recommend, people tell stories and the other team have to guess if they are truth or lies - is one of the ones I mentioned as a possible 3 but I'm not sure about)

Anyways Jimmy Carr is the most obvious 3 example I can think of, might be too 3 to actually be a good example though :/

I'm not very familiar with Robin Williams - I'd guess 3 fix off the bat - but I don't really know enough to answer that question.
Brilliant videos, thanks for sharing that with me :laughing: "Blood of pheasant, or peasant?" cracked me up. He is a very attractive man, that Carr. His mannerisms are relatable. Also, I laughed at how he wanted more praise for the coffee he made. I do that too :)) And @nablur, I think he was also probably talking about the general disconnect celebrities have from a normal life, doing things that regular people do, real jobs and the like so it probably felt good for him to get out of the bubble and engage. I still see the 3 though.
 
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listen to what he says and how he says, even up front within the first 10s of him speaking... "wow, its nice to do something real for a change"

he feels REAL when his energy is directed towards providing a service for others.

again after that , he wants to improve what is already there - hes 'noticed' the customers want stronger coffee so now they do 2 shots and something special to the milk. he has made this product BETTER

unconsciously a 3 is nothing... empty... it knows it isnt useful. it is useless, unworthy, no inherint value. (unhealthy)

consciously a 3 is looking for themself... and seeks this through acheiving and success for them self (average)

when a 3 finally finds what they were looking for, they project the energy outwards to the community:
sub-consciously a 3 wants to be useful, becuase in childhood it learned that being useful is rewarded and loved. doing, in the service of others and community will drive a 3. (healthy/englishtened/self actualized)

healthy 3's -
oprah
will smith
dwayne the rock johnson
arnold schwarzeneggar
tony robbins
tom cruise

https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-3/

all of this information is online btw :)
This is great. I had a thought. This is probably the reason that 137 and any iteration of it is called the systems developer? I can see that in your explanation. Improvising on what is already existing is a 3 thing, 1 sees what can be improved, 7 wants to do it bigger and better. But ultimately I am not sure the nickname quite fits, but the idea behind it almost certainly does fit one facet of the nickname given to it by the Fauvres.
 

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he has no idea how other celebrities feel. he is projecting himself.
he wants praise and admiration. feedback that he is doing well.
getting out of the bubble... is getting out of his ego, he allowed himself to connect and communicate with his heart. you can tell when you watch the video.

yes, 1's reform teh system, 3s make it better... 7s want to experience it.

i dont believe in tritypes either.

3-6-9 is the standard... a w4 would also add some 4-1-2 to the mix. SP instinct would also align with the w4. try not to get too far down into the weeds.
 

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Carr has such an obvious, grating laugh. He is worse than Fallon. Fallon at least comes off goofy as heck and you know he is just shamelessly playing it up for segments like Best Friend box, and all that. However this guy just looks like he is totally hamming it up for the cam. Have you seen some of Pete Holmes, and Michael McIntyre's work, @Nissa Nissa . I think you will like it.
@nablur I was talking about the general disconnect from normalcy and reality that celebrities end up in, the more and more they get into their bubble. Solid point there about communicating from his heart, but I don't think he was really doing that. It may have been a fleeting impulse but I believe a bigger emotional shakedown or experience is what it would take Carr to truly connect with his centre.
 

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@Girl archer I agree, I did read the video a bit like nablur (think 'nice to be doing something real' is an important 3 thing to say and I felt it there) but I agree it was just a flickering moment

I love Jimmy Fallon and I'm not annoyed by his laugh (Carr's is obviously fake, Fallon's isn't in the same way and it often feels like he's just having a good time + using Fe)

But 3, like Jimmy Carr, really is that mechanized...well obviously there's a sliding scale, but the type mechanics involve I think, that branding and fakeness. Of course 3s can be genuine, many are, but there's an impulse to mechanize



Thanks for the recommendations, haven't seen them but I'll check 'em out!
 
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@Girl archer But 3, like Jimmy Carr, really is that mechanized...well obviously there's a sliding scale, but the type mechanics involve I think, that branding and fakeness. Of course 3s can be genuine, many are, but there's an impulse to mechanize.

Hm, I am not that brand conscious, looking at myself i.e. Sure is strong enough for a fix maybe though.
 
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Enneagram 3 Talk Show Hosts: Matthew Wright (ENFJ 3w2), Richard Madeley (ESTJ 3w2), Tyra Banks (ExFJ 3w2), Mary Portas (ENxJ 3w4), Graham Norton (ESFP 3w4).

I was going to say Carr but Nissa seems to already have. Comedians tend to be 6w7s or 7w6s of the ExxP variety in general.

I can't think of any 3 actors tbh... They may usually be disintegrated 6s which is a topic that needs to be discussed to be honest. The type 3 has been narrowed down to simply wanting to be successful when it is more than that.
 

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Graham Norton a 3w4? :shocked: Seriously, @bundleofraindrops? Get outta here ! He does seem so saucy and 7 like.
 
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