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This tarot card explains why 'hiding' is so good. :)

Hermit Tarot Card Meanings

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The Hermit

Keywords:

  • Wisdom
  • Humility
  • Solitude
  • Searching
  • Detachment
  • Deliberate
  • Observation

Meaning:

In our fast-paced, harried world of today, we would all do well to do as the hermit does. The Hermit's stride is slow but sure. He takes each step with a deliberate, conscious approach - knowing that each step of the journey is a small imprint upon the larger picture of his path. He does everything in this manner - each breath he takes, each word he speaks, every decision he makes is a deliberate act.

This is one prime source of the Hermit's wisdom. In recognizing that each of our thoughts and actions is a brick we use to build our lives, we partake in the creation of our own reality. The Hermit has had to learn this lesson by means of distancing himself from the regular, routine world. By removing himself from the "normal" stream of societal thought, the Hermit is able to listen to the inner stirrings of his own intuition and act upon it.

In much the same way, by turning off our telephones, switching off our televisions, and removing ourselves from the barrage of external chatter - we are able to finally hear the small voice from within that leads us to higher ground.

The Hermit walks a fine line. By purposefully choosing to remove himself from society he also runs the risk of being misunderstood and labeled inappropriate. These labels do not concern him as his path of spiritual knowing and higher wisdom are his prime concerns.

The path of the Hermit is certainly not for everyone, but we all have parts of ourselves that need a little quiet time at the least. When the Hermit shows up in a reading it often refers to a need to be still, contemplate, meditate, observe what is going on before any further action is taken.


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I agree with all of this for my own experiences~
It speaks for me, 100%.
 

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INTJ's don't go physically in hiding. They´re in hiding in plain sight.
Some of us walk the extra mile and move to a mountain, though. It's very thought liberating. Being near people seems to pull some strings and close some doors, so when completely and physically away is when I can ask "Why" and get the most honest and true answers, no matter how ugly they can be.
 

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INTJ's don't go physically in hiding. They´re in hiding in plain sight.
You mean in your mind? I do that too.

But it also seems like you guys physically hide yourself at times too.

Or do you mean :shocked: you LURK?

Well if you are truly hovering over us then that would explain the reason I tend to elevate you people to God-like status . I might start adding my prayers here. :tongue:

But I would still like to know what that behavior is about too. I'm confused :confused:
 

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Wow. So far these have all been very insightful responses. Thank you. I really wish I would have asked this ages ago. Your answers really help me to not project my own reasons for why your type has this behavior. I now can see that my motivations for "hiding" are very different from yours. I find that understanding very important for communication.

Okay, I am going to stand back and "listen" some more.
 

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I have a tendency to frighten people because they don't hear me coming. Or when I'm waiting for the washroom and they open the door and "suddenly" I'm outside it. Or I can be lying on the couch for an hour, and then suddenly my mum, who was just on the other side of it for the same hour, in the dining room, will walk by and shriek, because she "didn't know I was there." It isn't deliberate. I'm just standing, or sitting, or reading. Quietly. Not calling unnecessary attention to myself. Sometimes I'm reading in a cafe, a book on serial killers, - in which case people mysteriously avoid looking at me. :) And when I'm staying home alone, that's not so much hiding, as normally living life. It's when I suddenly turn into a party animal that you need to wonder what the hell is going on. Because that' s not normal.
 

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I dont consider it hiding, I consider it engaging in favored priorities...or even pleasures.

Just as other enjoy crowds and bars and parties and all the other social events....personally, it is not high on my enjoyment meter.

It is all perspective. You have to shift your mind into the mind of a person who does not find the average things that draw people to them out 'fun' or enjoyable...

It is like backwards logic.....if you can truly move your mind to understand that the things I enjoy I engage in....and the things I choose not to engage in often if at all....are because personally I do not find pleasure in them...you may begin to truly grasp the concept...which will give you an overall idea as to why.

As some are energized by interaction....others re-energize in solitude.
 

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I do physically hide every once in a while (today being a prime example). And yes, it usually means I don't want to be found. It's just an introvert thing. Sometimes I hide because there's something I want to ponder. Sometimes I just need to stare blankly at a wall to re-energize. If someone were to invent an INTJ tracker *shudder* how would I ever be left alone??? :mellow:
 

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When I intentionally hide it's because I am in no mood to attempt to please others based upon their perceptions of me, which would require me to care what they are thinking, which is not in my interests at that time (I have more important things to think about/do). I have most often intentionally hid from guests who visit my parents (I don't know them and am not sure I would care to know them) or from people who like me who I don't like. If I am curious enough and feel comfortable, I won't intentionally hide. I don't hide from people who I like, nor do I hide from people who I don't like as a rule- but I will hide from people I dislike who also dislike me if our encounter would involve non-productive conflict, exclusively, or for example my unwillingness to act in a certain manner could make the other person or people around me uncomfortable. In that respect, I feel I'm doing both them and myself a courtesy by remaining hidden.

How does one know I am intentionally hiding? I tip-toe around quietly or silently, usually at opportunistic moments based upon the habits and the schedules of others- remaining unseen in the same building/room as you (not just as a matter of not wanting to draw attention to myself but as a matter of finding a place where I'm pretty sure I won't be found/bothered by other people's expectations of me). I intentionally hide in public places when my attendance has been forced due to social obligation which I am not comfortable with, not something I've subjected myself to out of my own desire but because it served some other purpose which is not necessarily publicly known. I would often hide in church, for example, or leave the building completely to entertain myself outside (there was a playground with a swing set and a baseball field which were easily accessible).

As a teenager, I became quite good at hiding, literally, in certain nooks and crannies of my high school. My heart would drop when someone would find me to then approach me- my immediate thoughts being: "God dammit! Leave me alone, asshole! Does it LOOK like I want to talk to you? No... It doesn't... You must be an extrovert with seemingly good intentions who doesn't understand my needs at all. Just go away..." I've done this same thing when at work, especially retail- I can only take so much base and philosophically non-fulfilling human contact before I have to repress mental urges to kill people and must get away to re-center myself.

Even my first job, as a retail photographer, allowed me a private working space between shoots to recover where I could hide- not from my boss but from random strangers. When I'm constantly socially exposed I quickly become tired and irritable- so long as I have a place to recover, I will remain in good spirits, be better able to fulfill my duties and then feel comfortable to again venture out when I must.

I felt much less of a need to hide when I was working as a parking valet (hospitality), however, due to the fact that the job involved periods of alone time where direct supervision of me was not necessary. Not only that, but I got to work in a large garage which had been excavated below an office building, lending it that feeling of being hidden away, private and infrequently trespassed upon. Everyone who went in and out of that place I knew a vast amount of personal details about; they were not random people- anyone who entered had acquired the privilege to be there, and I had a friendly relationship with all of them, even those who I did not particularly like (the 2 who flirted with me, yech). Being in that "cave" surrounded by people who I felt happy to work for and with made leaving at the end of my shift all the more pleasant because I would literally ascend back into the sunlight and be able to appreciate the change.

Of course, then I would go "hide" out in the open at a public park for an hour or so because I didn't want to be stuck in the confines of my apartment nor necessarily interact with my roommates (an older brother and his best friend). My intent was not to intentionally avoid them because of dislike, but because I needed to recover in a neutral space- where nothing was required of me and I could focus on my own fulfillment before placing myself into yet another unpredictable and possibly uncomfortable social environment. In that regard, in an inverted sense of what I've previously said, sometimes random strangers [those who have no expectations of me, often found at parks or other places of public recreation] are more pleasing company than people who I actually know... as is the environment. There are just places which exist that offer peace, harmony, contentment, freedom from focusing on fulfilling the needs of others, which lift that heavy sensation of suffocation that the obligatory avenues of social exposure can at times impose on me.

If/when I am in a comfortable environment, I feel no need to hide.

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My impulsive desire to hide has often frustrated and/or panicked my ENFP mother, especially during my childhood- despite the fact that I would always show myself when it was time to return home (meet my parents at the car or at the place I knew they could be found at a specific time, etc.).
 

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Why do INTJs go into hiding? What are you doing? What makes you come back out?

Do you know if anyone has come up with a gadget that detects hidden INTJs?

for me, and im guessing most other INTJs, we go into hiding for absolute comfort and/or privacy. sometimes, i get extremely overwhelmed when im around ppl for too long. it honestly puts a physical strain on my body. my head starts to feel heavy, i get tired, i start to feel paranoid (to some extent)and i sort of feel claustrophobic.

i go into hiding a lot. people who do not know me wonder why i do this. since introverts are supposably the minority in the world, that means that introverts are usually surrounded by extroverts (when not around family..since personality is typically similar with/in families ((and please, lets not start another argument about origin of personalities.))

once i am able to, i find somewhere i know i can be in absolute solitude (even if it just for a few minutes). its a way for INTJs to collect their thoughts, and to regain energy. we simply get drained from too much social interaction.

i love my alone time. while extroverts typically do not understand this at all, INTJs value alone time as if it is essential like food, water, and shelter.
 
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