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I saw a lot of studies, some people thinks 1995 is still Generation Y, but after 1995 is Generation Z, while others thinks 1995 is the beginning of Generation Z, and others think they are both. I am born in very early of 1995 (Jan, 1995), and that year is confusing, I remembered things since early 1997, I do remembered the 90s very well, I remembered People were going crazy on Spice Girls, The Backstreet Boys, Aaron Carter, N-SYNC, Britney Spears, Shaggy, Maxi Priest, Enimem, and Madonna. In the First 4 years of my life, We have no Computer, but TV, VHS, Video Games, and outside. When I was 2 (1997), I remembered before my parents got their first computer, and I enjoyed playing outside, and even listening to music, when my mother plays with the CD. Both of my Parents are from Generation X, (Late 1960s - Early 1970s), and my older sister is 3 years older than me, and she is Generation Y, and My younger brother is Generation Z, 3 years younger than me, and me, I am born before the Internet came out in Late 1995, I am not a Tech or Internet Native, But a tech Immigrant, But I grew up with computers in my home. I began to use the Computer once - 6 times a year in 1999, and more often in 2002, and I began to use the internet in 2003, but My parents began to use the Internet in 2000.

In 1999, where my parents got their first computer I remembered that, when I saw on the box, I thought it was a new Television set, but it wasn't, I never touch their computer until my mother got herself a new laptop in 2000.

I began to use the internet more often in 2005, and almost all the time in 2006, I did not got myself a smartphone until 2012, and a tablet in 2013.

I remembered the 90s baby shows, disney, Cartoon Network, and Nickelodeon shows, and even Advertisement.

When I was 6, I remembered seeing 9/11 incident happened, and it was scary. My Parents were married in 2000.

Also the last thing, I began to use YouTube in 2006, and Facebook in 2009, but at that time, I did not use Facebook that often, but used Google+ in 2011, and began to use Facebook more often in 2014. I got myself a Hotmail account in 2004 (9 years old). I remembered the Dial-up connections that my mother had from 2000 - 2004 until we got a Broadband connection. And began to use the wireless internet in 2007.

When I was 9, I got myself a First Computer, but broke it a year later. 5 years later, I got myself a first laptop for myself, and a year later the first desktop computer that I built.

Anyways, I think from January 1st - August 23rd, 1995 should be in a late Generation Y, While after August 23rd, 1995, due to Windows 95 release, it should be the beginning of the Generation Z. Internet was introduced into mainstream at that day when Windows 95 came out, But My parents did not got the Internet until 2000.

I don't know what Year 1995 with both Generations mixed together. What's the name for the Mixed Generations in the same year?
 

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I forgot, when I rebelled against my parents (due to teenage rebellion) as of Generation Z (Generation Y in my choice), I shared some traits from the Generation X, because I listened to Music a lot, but only listened to music from the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and up to mid 2000s. And even, feeling apathetic. But we all know that I am not Generation X, but Generation Y and Z mixed, (1995 is very confusing to choose between Gen Y and Z), I been raised through the Generation Z years, but grew up during Iraq and Afghanistan War.
 

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I saw a lot of studies, some people thinks 1995 is still Generation Y, but after 1995 is Generation Z, while others thinks 1995 is the beginning of Generation Z, and others think they are both. I am born in very early of 1995 (Jan, 1995), and that year is confusing, I remembered things since early 1997, I do remembered the 90s very well, I remembered People were going crazy on Spice Girls, The Backstreet Boys, Aaron Carter, N-SYNC, Britney Spears, Shaggy, Maxi Priest, Enimem, and Madonna. In the First 4 years of my life, We have no Computer, but TV, VHS, Video Games, and outside. When I was 2 (1997), I remembered before my parents got their first computer, and I enjoyed playing outside, and even listening to music, when my mother plays with the CD. Both of my Parents are from Generation X, (Late 1960s - Early 1970s), and my older sister is 3 years older than me, and she is Generation Y, and My younger brother is Generation Z, 3 years younger than me, and me, I am born before the Internet came out in Late 1995, I am not a Tech or Internet Native, But a tech Immigrant, But I grew up with computers in my home. I began to use the Computer once - 6 times a year in 1999, and more often in 2002, and I began to use the internet in 2003, but My parents began to use the Internet in 2000.

In 1999, where my parents got their first computer I remembered that, when I saw on the box, I thought it was a new Television set, but it wasn't, I never touch their computer until my mother got herself a new laptop in 2000.

I began to use the internet more often in 2005, and almost all the time in 2006, I did not got myself a smartphone until 2012, and a tablet in 2013.

I remembered the 90s baby shows, disney, Cartoon Network, and Nickelodeon shows, and even Advertisement.

When I was 6, I remembered seeing 9/11 incident happened, and it was scary. My Parents were married in 2000.

Also the last thing, I began to use YouTube in 2006, and Facebook in 2009, but at that time, I did not use Facebook that often, but used Google+ in 2011, and began to use Facebook more often in 2014. I got myself a Hotmail account in 2004 (9 years old). I remembered the Dial-up connections that my mother had from 2000 - 2004 until we got a Broadband connection. And began to use the wireless internet in 2007.

When I was 9, I got myself a First Computer, but broke it a year later. 5 years later, I got myself a first laptop for myself, and a year later the first desktop computer that I built.

Anyways, I think from January 1st - August 23rd, 1995 should be in a late Generation Y, While after August 23rd, 1995, due to Windows 95 release, it should be the beginning of the Generation Z. Internet was introduced into mainstream at that day when Windows 95 came out, But My parents did not got the Internet until 2000.

I don't know what Year 1995 with both Generations mixed together. What's the name for the Mixed Generations in the same year?
You see here's the problem with cutoff dates, there is never one defined one. For instance you stated that August 23rd of 95 would be the cutoff for Gen Y because of the release of Windows 95. However heres the issue, what about the person born in August 24th of that year? Is he a Y or is he a Z? Since there is nothing suggest a difference between a August 23rd person and a August 24th I would personally just call them the same generation.

In my opinion I think remembering historical events is much more important than birth dates. For instance most Baby Boomers remember JFK Getting Shot, most Gen Xers remember the Challenger Explosion, well for most Gen Yers we remember 9/11. So in this case remembering 9/11 would be a better division marker rather than simply being born before commercialized internet.

So in my opinion you would of had to had been born by mid 1998 at the latest to have some memory of it. However some people would dismiss their memories of the event because they were still pretty young at the time and plus they wouldn't have much memory of a life before hand so by that definition people born late 1996-mid 1997 would be the last to remember a pre 9/11 world.

This just my opinion though and to answer your question I would consider you and me both late Gen Y which is from 1994-1997 than the YZ cusp being 1998-2001 and 2002 being the first true Z year.
 

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Fellow 1995'er here, although, I was born midway of that year; June. I consider myself more in line with Gen Z as really, the most '90s' thing I remember was watching Star Wars Episode I in the theaters with my dad. Definitely remember 9/11 and more distinctive memories than watching a movie in 1999. However, I do relate to not personally using the internet until 2003 as well on a Toshiba laptop running Windows 2000 with a 9GB HDD (I'll tell ya, it taught me a lot of how to be cautious of what you fill your machine with). Have vague memories too of the dial up sounds as well and the long phone jack cable.

Most of my early years was spent in Leapfrog interactive books, so I was pretty clueless when it came to pop culture you refer to remembering.
 

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I think 1995 should be Y, but I guess I am rather bias. Being born in September of 1995 but with siblings born in generation X, I identify far more with X and Y than Z. My situation is a weird one though. I grew up with Gen X music, my parents were both baby bloomers born in 1945 and 1953. My parents were also both computer programmers in the 70's when a computer took up a whole room and spewed out paper into bins resulting in my family having a home computer in 1980. The only thing I did on the computer was solitaire and commander keen(fantastic game released in the early 90s).

Either way, seeing as my life was painted with Sailor Moon, X-men, Tamagotchis, and pet rocks, I will still identify as a 90's child.
 

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I think 1995 is like a border between Generation Y and Generation Z because most kids born in the year were too young to remember a lot of stuff in the 90s, which makes them early and mid 2000s kids.
 

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It's really just where you associate yourself. It's all culture, and nothing to do with birth dates (just really for reference and generalization). I'm class of 2013, which means half my peers are gen y and half are gen z which doesn't make a ton of sense does it? Since we all had very similar experiences. My mom's a Baby Boomer and my dad's Gen X. They had me pretty late, ha. I relate better to gen y and have a lot of trouble even befriending people of gen z. Nothing wrong with them, I've just always gotten along better with people older than me. It's all cool. Call yourself gen y if you feel closer to the definition. Gen Y is a cool club and Gen Z is a cool club too, so also don't feel ashamed to identify gen z if you relate to them (idk, some 90s kids and gen y can be very supremacist sometimes for whatever strange reason and talk down to gen z and 00s).

I would say remembering 9/11 is a good one. Having some sort of memory of the 90s. Technology is something that I think is a huge identifier of Gen Y vs Gen Z just because of how freaking quickly it was/is advancing during our lifetimes. As far as how much involvement it had in your childhood. Gen Y is also called Millennials, so I have a hard time entertaining my sister's persistence that she's a 90s kid when she lived a total of 11 days in the 20th century, lol. My own opinion is 1995-1997 is cusp and the argument really ends come 2000, but still open to interpretation.
 

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Okay, I'm going to debunk this myth of the Class of 2015 being the last to experience 9/11, because they are not.
Constant memories form usually at around age 2, so it would be the Class of 2017 that would be the last to have any possible memory of the event, though the 2017 classmen weren't in preschool yet during the event.
Both the Classes of 2015 and 2016 were in preschool during the event, and honestly, preschool aged children are on a much lower cognitive level than children 5 and older, trust me, I've babysat preschool kids before, and most doctors agree that there's a big cognitive difference between children ages 3-4 and children ages 5-6. There's no way the event would've truly had an impact on their lives unless they lost a loved one in the event, their lives are truly centered around innocence and being carefree.
Also, there are many children who don't go to preschool, so some of the C/O 2015 were not in school at all during the event, so how the fuck are they the last to experience the event, if anything they're the first to have not experienced it.
The last that would have truly experienced the event is the Class of 2014, as they were in elementary school when it happened.
These are not opinions, these are facts.
 

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I begin the cusp territory at 1995, although 95ers are like 90% Y in my eyes. They check off all the boxes except being enrolled in grade school during the 99-00 academic year.

Off topic, but does anyone know why OcarinaFan96 "retired?"
 

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In 1995, the last backbone node of the Internet was relinquished by the government and became private. That's why it is such a pivotal moment in human history. The Internet was now a fully private commercially driven technology. The Web began to grow by leaps and bounds after that.
 

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I begin the cusp territory at 1995, although 95ers are like 90% Y in my eyes. They check off all the boxes except being enrolled in grade school during the 99-00 academic year.

Off topic, but does anyone know why OcarinaFan96 "retired?"
Do you still see a cusp if the Millennials were split into two?

What 'Retired' means here? are they left this form?
Yes, they left this forum. For OF, I was told by Mqg that he had depression and wanted to clear his mind. I think I was also told that OF was just going to focus on school.
 

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IMO random cutoff dates don't work for reasons already described. I suppose you could argue that December 31st is also arbitrary when you really think about it, but at least years are much cleaner to work with. This is why I prefer to look at things as a "gray area"; it leaves room for discrepancy and allows people to choose what suits them best. I look at the mid-later 90's as such a gray area. There's definitely some changes going on with how we grew up once you hit these birth years, and if nothing else we are serving as a big influence for the "true" Z's.
 

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I think a 5-year "gray area" is plenty sufficient. In the United States, two people born 6+ years apart are typically never enrolled in the same academic level (elementary, middle, high school).
 
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