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I'm only 19, so I can't say that I know much about life; yet something that really bothers me about our time is how much marriage is seen as something you probably shouldn't do. I understand that it can romanticized far too much and that it's far from perfect. However, whenever I see videos about why marriage is a bad idea, they always describe how it ties people down and takes away freedom. Shouldn't this be the opposite of what real love is? Whenever I think of someone ideal to marry, they would be a best friend, someone I trust beyond anything. It makes me depressed when I hear people say that you should never stay with someone forever and that love is just a false concept that isn't worth anything. Is my opinion in the minority? (I should mention that I'm not in a relationship right now, this is just my general opinion).
I think marriage is important, it makes you feel loved, appreciated and close with a person. I think most people look at marriage as something you don't really need, in a world of people who can have all the luxuries of marriage without the commitment. In my opinion a lot of people think why get married and be hassled into something, when they already have all the benefits. I think marriage is important, a why to share your love and feel truly devoted to one another.
But that just my opinion
 

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This is wrong on many levels.

Men do not want to marry you and treat you like a wife. If they truly did, then you would not have the fear you do of being controlled (the fundamental fear of Type 8's). Your attitude creates your reality and because your fear of being controlled is over-expressed, you judge marriage not worth it when in truth it certainly is.

Even if it were true that men want to marry you and treat you like a wife, the result is still undeniably immoral and not better at all. There is nothing better about living a life of fear when compared to facing life head on, whatever difficulty that inevitably follows. That difficulty is good because it forces you to develop.

We will all age, you included. We all struggle with some difficulty. It could be weight, it could be video games, it could be what you have described here. But deeming the whole process as unworthy of your time is extremely selfish, defeating, and immoral. There is no guarantee of the tragedy you so laid out. It is unnecessary tragic and unnecessary suffering to assume so. Yet, you must assume that some sort of tragedy will come because it will and you must face it or suffer the consequences.

The birth of children is a noble and beautiful thing and you are foolish to minimize it and every mother must accept that her child will suffer, be it from life in general or some unforeseen condition.

If you do not respect humankind, the nature of love, or morality in general you WILL be alone. It is not those who desire marriage and connection that will be most prone to being alone, it is those who deem it childish, unnecessary, and stupid who will be alone. The thought of having the kind of options you state is an illusion. There are no options that are immorally constructed. They are just paths of thin ice, ice that gets thinner as you walk along it. When it finally cracks, you can try to rationalize your position as if it were stable, but it will never be so. That is not an option, that is a death sentence.

Why should you engage in any building process? To build something. You can't inherent a home you did not build yourself. You will destroy it, fail to upkeep it. Nothing comes for free.

Shed off this immoral attitude. It will only hurt you and those around you. It is extremely negative, selfish, immoral, and nasty. Your preoccupation with aesthetics should lead you to ensure that your inside is as beautiful as whatever outside you have cultivated.
Lul, wtf. Condense this weird shit into a sentence.
 

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Because having a bunch of men that want to marry you and treat you like a wife while giving them nothing in return is much better than actually being married to a fat ass porn addicted manchild addicted to vidya you make significantly more than while also developing life long cellulite from birthing out more turbo autists with tons of depression/mental illness. It's only a problem if you have no options or feel you will be alone forever or something. Why train the bull for a decade in marriage when you can ride him for free? LOL.

Why does marriage offer any woman these days? It's the same with 5'1" Indian men forcing women to keep virginity.
A challenge? The q would be if it is related more to the thrill of the humoristic presentation of certain chain of repeating events and the melodramatic stand in it all - or more connected to actually not believing a boy out there is being worth the more part a lifelasting excitement?

Also. You are poking fun at it already a bit, could mean it has become already a hilariour pattern for you to extract amusement from. Again, that could be translated as the final call.

Now more seriously, you sound a lot like a lady who is actually (secretly?) a sub.
 

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I don't know. I've never really understood why a person wouldn't want to get married eventually or even worse, to let their marriage fail or call it quits. Don't really care on the whys of why that is, but it's not something I want for myself or my SO. :unsure:
 

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Because having a bunch of men that want to marry you and treat you like a wife while giving them nothing in return is much better than actually being married to a fat ass porn addicted manchild addicted to vidya you make significantly more than while also developing life long cellulite from birthing out more turbo autists with tons of depression/mental illness. It's only a problem if you have no options or feel you will be alone forever or something. Why train the bull for a decade in marriage when you can ride him for free? LOL.

Why does marriage offer any woman these days? It's the same with 5'1" Indian men forcing women to keep virginity.
Lul, wtf. Condense this weird shit into a sentence.
Catwalk, this is an unfortunate state of mind to be in. Please do not fall victim to such negative and immoral thinking as it will only result in unnecessarily tragic suffering. When we use people, we are also used by those same people because the relationship is one of exploitation rather than growth.
 

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Catwalk, this is an unfortunate state of mind to be in. Please do not fall victim to such negative and immoral thinking as it will only result in unnecessarily tragic suffering. When we use people, we are also used by those same people because the relationship is one of exploitation rather than growth.
I don't give a fuck about morals and randoms, no one has time for that
 

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I don't give a fuck about morals and randoms, no one has time for that
Oh Catwalk, I don't believe that about you for a second. I don't know you personally and don't claim to, but I have a feeling that you don't believe what you said about yourself either. I know I'm just a random person on the internet, but regardless, I wish you the best.
 

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It's not marriage per se. It's just marriage in the west due to it's legal ramifications. Here is the legal stance on romantic relationships. You can do just about whatever the fuck you want, with whoever you want, and as many people as you want, as often as you want. There are no penalties for lying, deceiving or cheating anyone in the game of love... That is unless you said "I do" at an alter, in which case you had better start to behave because if we catch you cheating, you can kiss half your life's work goodbye.

In a culture where sexual promiscuity is not only acceptable but heavily promoted, you can't expect people who have been sleeping around throughout their teens and early twenties to suddenly break the habit just because they fell in love and tied the knot. It's part of human behaviour to fall back on old habits the moment things get stressful, and marriage can get extremely stressful. Anyone with a functioning brain knows that marriage in the west is a trap.
 
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