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I sometimes wonder (I do not have any data) whether younger generations have lost their incentive to develop interpersonal/intrapersonal communication skills because "screen culture" has supplanted the actual need to interact.

I didn't have internet/Web, or a smartphone as a horny teenage male, so if I wanted to get intimate with a young woman, I had to walk up and talk to her. If she wasn't interested, I had to talk to another, and so on. I developed the skill because I was motivated to do so.

A lot of younger males are frustrated because they have needs they can't fully meet, and they appear not to have ever learned to overcome their fears of rejection by simply walking up to women and asking them out until one of them says: "yes."

You have some guys who figure it out and manage to get with women, but there's a lot of socially awkward young men who don't have the first clue what to do. They've consumed a lot of internet porn that makes it seem like most women are perfectly willing to do whatever the man wants them to without any effort on their part. They've completely mistaken what used to be every horny male's fantasy for reality, and why not? They've got zero experience with the real thing, so this is all they have to go on. So they get this crazy idea that a lot of women are out there being super slutty with other young men, just not them. Sure, there's a few young women who might be a bit more brazen, but Internet Porn may make it seem like more of them are than is realistically true. So, instead of blaming themselves for not learning how to interact in an acceptable manner with women, some of these frustrated young men blame the women for not living up to the fantasy they've constructed in their own heads, thus the "Incel Movement" was born.

Now please do not think I am in any way endorsing this turn of events, I am simply attempting to analyze and explain what I see going on. Lord knows, as a teenager, I got a boner every time the wind changed, and, I did not get anywhere near the amount of intimacy with women that I craved, but I didn't blame them for it. I knew there were other factors involved. I wasn't ugly, but I wasn't shockingly handsome either. I was a few years behind on the "social maturity" curve. Also, a lot of young women were afraid of the same things I was: disease, pregnancy, and societal shame. There was also a general lack of opportunity when you're younger. It can be hard to find a place and a time to "fool around" when you're underage, don't have a car, and aren't financially solvent. Still, these were not reasons to blame women. Just part of the "normal" frustrations of being young, dumb, and full of...well you know. ;)
this was excellent

only thing ill say is incel was originally meant to describe women who couldnt have sex like they wanted to. but in true female fashion it was flipped to describe males who dont get enough sex as if every man just wants have sex with every pretty girl. most guys do. but a significant proportion of boys and men dont want to stick it in every pretty thing they see. thats just a stereotype as 80% accurate as it is.

it is more shameful for a woman to want sex and not be able to get it because if shes half decent looking she should have too many options to choose from, thus the incel thing. as a man not getting enough sex is common. even if you have a lot of sex its still not enough sex and thats why we want more sex
 

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For the very same reason, they are perpetrators of domestic violence. It's the wimmen's fault. Obviously.

She didn't hold her mouth the right way, didn't do enough or she said too much, cried too much, asked for more, or some lesbian purple-haired femmo put ideas in her head and made her think she had rights.
no jusification for violence against women

but i have heard that some women intentionally provoke male anger and some women are attracted to violent and abusive men

i just put this here in the interest of full transparency

(im an entp i couldnt help myself)
 

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Probably the rise in basement dwellers and incels in Gen X & Gen Y, now Gen Z has a bunch of bubble wrapped weirdos. So... 🤷🏻‍♀️. I think the increase in school shootings probably plays apart into that stereotype too.

I mean angry guys seem to be often (not always) linked to lack of access to sex (hey I don’t make the society) just saying.
theres a lot angry guys who beat up their girlfriends who also get sex, just saying
 

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for some people they are one and the same, but that was kinda the point
for some people its okay to kill... just because "some people think/feel" doesnt make it reality

even i have physical touch as my no.1 love language but i dont equate amazing sex with love

you wouldnt have sex with a prostitute and assume she loves you, that would be a sign of mental illness

thinking sex will lead to love is an outrageous assumption that will almost always lead to disappointment, and emotional dissatisfaction
 

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for some people its okay to kill... just because "some people think/feel" doesnt make it reality
it does if it starts impacting their behaviour and impact on others
even i have physical touch as my no.1 love language but i dont equate amazing sex with love
good for you, I have touch as my hate language and I definitely don't equate them
you wouldnt have sex with a prostitute and assume she loves you, that would be a sign of mental illness

thinking sex will lead to love is an outrageous assumption that will almost always lead to disappointment, and emotional dissatisfaction
yup
 

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fixed that for you
you did fix it

but i liked what i said better

the chemical structure of the female brain leads to them not being rational in some of the oddest of situations

for example how does one have tens, if not hundreds or thousands of DMs but still feel lonely. to a man that is irrational

the story of women going to a store,
1st floor: good looking men who will treat them nice
moves to the next floor
2nd floor: good looking men who will treat them nice and have money
moves to the next floor
3rd floor:good looking men who will treat them nice and have money and will be a good father
moves to the next floor
4th floor: good looking men who will treat them nice and have money and will be a good father and give them the best sex ever
moves to the next floor
5th floor: good looking men who will treat them nice and have money and will be a good father and give them the best sex ever and their family loves them
moves to the next floor
6th floor: this floor exist to show women are never happy

(there is male equivalent to that analogy, i wonder if you can guess it)

then go around saying things like "all men" because they chose to be with an abuser or drug dealer because "he excites me"

then again maybe rationality itself is subjective

either way i think rationality comes so easy to women that they would rather choose a different option. maybe because they dont have as many outlets to exercise their frustrations
 

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That sounds a lot like bollocks.

Women aren't all the same for a start and I bet a whole heap of them would think that having someone grabbing at their tits and arse all the time would be stressful in itself. I've almost got a UTI just thinking about it.

Men can also be really needy for external validation too.

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i love this so much

because women think vaginas are the solution to every mans issues...not realizing how stressful most women can be.

also not realizing the compulsive NEED to have sex is a sign of poor mental health itself

i think its the way most womens value system works because they think external validation is the be all and end all to a happy life
 

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it does if it starts impacting their behaviour and impact on others

good for you, I have touch as my hate language and I definitely don't equate them

yup
what is it like to not have touch as your main love language??? im curious. i have heard of "sex once a month is more than enough in a relationship" type of people. but it doesnt make sense to my brain clearly

i hate people touching me but when i love someone i just want to touch them all the time (still somewhat uncomfortable with cuddling and the like though)
 

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That sounds a lot like bollocks.

Women aren't all the same for a start and I bet a whole heap of them would think that having someone grabbing at their tits and arse all the time would be stressful in itself. I've almost got a UTI just thinking about it.

Men can also be really needy for external validation too.

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i mean, youre an intj female im assuming....so youre supposed to be different from every type of woman. i dont think you can speak on the general motivations of women because their brains dont work like yours

i never said men dont need it, im saying most women think that is what what most people want as is how they judge the value and perceive the happiness of other people

i had an ex who thought that because i had a small circle of close friends and didnt care about validating myself to the masses that somehow that was the cause of my unhappiness or somehow diminished my value
 

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for example how does one have tens, if not hundreds or thousands of DMs but still feel lonely. to a man that is irrational
depends on the contents of those DMs lol
(there is male equivalent to that analogy, i wonder if you can guess it)
stay at ground floor?
either way i think rationality comes so easy to women that they would rather choose a different option. maybe because they dont have as many outlets to exercise their frustrations
I can relate to that, personally
what is it like to not have touch as your main love language??? im curious. i have heard of "sex once a month is more than enough in a relationship" type of people. but it doesnt make sense to my brain clearly

i hate people touching me but when i love someone i just want to touch them all the time (still somewhat uncomfortable with cuddling and the like though)
it makes dating pretty tedious sometimes I can tell you that much
if I don't connect with the person on every other way it just comes across as bothersome ("your body hurts me as the world hurts god" -type of thing). even with people I've truly loved it sometimes felt like I was just tolerating it at best. not ALL the time, but sometimes.
 

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I think I could grab a woman from any type and say what I said with a little extra "yep that's absolute bollocks". They might say it in different words they may say it nicer or even meaner but I would bet my arse that I'm not alone in thinking that was a generalised and very untrue statement you made about women.

Generalising about women like you know their motivations, it's pretty insulting. You've stated that I am INTJ therefore different, but you've already made a statement that contradicts your first one.

Your ex doesn't represent women either.

i mean, youre an intj female im assuming....so youre supposed to be different from every type of woman. i dont think you can speak on the general motivations of women because their brains dont work like yours

i never said men dont need it, im saying most women think that is what what most people want as is how they judge the value and perceive the happiness of other people

i had an ex who thought that because i had a small circle of close friends and didnt care about validating myself to the masses that somehow that was the cause of my unhappiness or somehow diminished my value
Please use the multiquote. You spam the thread with Mostoner12 and we miss the flow of conversation.
 

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depends on the contents of those DMs lol

stay at ground floor?

I can relate to that, personally

it makes dating pretty tedious sometimes I can tell you that much
if I don't connect with the person on every other way it just comes across as bothersome ("your body hurts me as the world hurts god" -type of thing). even with people I've truly loved it sometimes felt like I was just tolerating it at best. not ALL the time, but sometimes.
"depends on the contents of those DMs lol"
i feel like this is a cop out answer. most women dont explore their options deep enough. they look for a reason to reject a man instead of looking for a reason to be with one

"stay at ground floor?"
most women like male intimacy. if youre a lesbian you stay at the ground floor

i think i understand you a bit
 

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"depends on the contents of those DMs lol"
i feel like this is a cop out answer. most women dont explore their options deep enough. they look for a reason to reject a man instead of looking for a reason to be with one
I think you could argue that women on average might have more reason to be cautious, but if someone is actively looking for a reason to reject someone that's more of a personal issue IME.
what you said about exploring the options (i.e. potential for relationship) is something more typical to the dating culture at large, at least where I live.
"stay at ground floor?"
most women like male intimacy. if youre a lesbian you stay at the ground floor
no I meant men. but point taken
i think i understand you a bit
yeah I figured you would :p
 

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yeah you right but it doesnt come from the lack of sex in itself

but the feeling of feeling unwanted and not loved in this forever growing into isolationist society we are developing into. they just want love. cant get it and feel sex is the answer
Lots of people want love. Doesn't mean you can just treat other people like sex objects with no needs, individuality, or value outside of having sex with you.

But I guess women must not know what it's like to want love--must be part of their illogical, reptilian brains that can't understand fancy things like "love" unlike angry young men who want to shoot up yoga studios because hot women won't fuck them.

Maybe women really need to take a page from incels to understand what true love is. Thankfully the incels wouldn't ever listen to an actual woman talk, unless it's to confirm their projections. I'm sure hating women is the best solution after all, when a society is growing isolated and lacks in love.
 

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Lots of people want love. Doesn't mean you can just treat other people like sex objects with no needs, individuality, or value outside of having sex with you.

But I guess women must not know what it's like to want love--must be part of their illogical, reptilian brains that can't understand fancy things like "love" unlike angry young men who want to shoot up yoga studios because hot women won't fuck them.

Maybe women really need to take a page from incels to understand what true love is. Thankfully the incels wouldn't ever listen to an actual woman talk, unless it's to confirm their projections. I'm sure hating women is the best solution after all, when a society is growing isolated and lacks in love.
this rant had absolutely nothing to with what i said....i dont know if it was intended to or what....
 
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