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Me and my INFJ brother were figuring out how one would take over the world.

Since INTJs are notorious for wanting to take over the world:tongue:, I thought we should have a thread to combine ideas.

We seem to have deduced that although a Chinese/Russian alliance would certainly bring the force to bear and be able to conquer the most land the fastest, that the the best option would be to increase American nationalism to the point of fascism.

But, on the other hand. China could use north korea to divert US resources, into a silly war that Americans do not support. China could also use its powerful economy to build quite the military force, the only problem with China is they lack air power. They have been trying for decades to reverse engineer jet engines, they have only been able to obtain old versions from Russia. Hence why Russia would need to ally with China.

Vladimir Putin's approval rating is still high and he has four more years on his current term. He will also likely be re-elected. With US relations declining he could easily become closer to china.

The US has the widest spread of military power throughout the world, but the country is divided and it would be hard to unify it on this endeavor. Subtle propaganda would be hard to keep secret for long, I suppose you could organize a lot of small terrorist attacks.

Please post your ideas, current plans, and suggestions.

And what would you do if you were successful in taking over the world?
 

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I'd stop the strategic feminization of society. That's about it. Oh, and maybe send those who merge without signaling to the electric chair.
 

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Be patient, and use diplomacy and military force together. Use Russia's new expansionism to increase European unity until they federate. Then, merge the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand together into a Western megastate. Ally with China, then conquer Russia (FROM THE EAST- that bit is important.) Then steadily increase UN power until it becomes a new layer of a federal state on top of the world's nations. Win an election to the post of Secretary-General, and congratulations! You've successfully dominated the world!
 

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Be patient, and use diplomacy and military force together. Use Russia's new expansionism to increase European unity until they federate. Then, merge the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand together into a Western megastate. Ally with China, then conquer Russia (FROM THE EAST- that bit is important.) Then steadily increase UN power until it becomes a new layer of a federal state on top of the world's nations. Win an election to the post of Secretary-General, and congratulations! You've successfully dominated the world!
I had considered increasing pressure on Europe, to strengthen the European union. The problem is this requires so many moving parts and INTJs are not known for our ability to form such large networks.

I don't see Europe as worth conquering early as the people are so individualized and would likely revolt. Part of the trick would be to not destroy their culture. Who knows? They get so much paid time off and social services from their government, they might not have it in them to revolt. Until you get to eastern Europe where it isn't as stable.

Annexing Canada, would definitely be an early step if you are conquering the world from the US. They do have a military, but we are such great allies that they would not see it coming. They would probably not as mind much since we are very similar countries. Individual states would become mad as the house of representatives would need to be shifted around and the senate would get somewhere around 24 new senators.

We may have to increase federalism and create regional governments that act under the federal government, but above state government.

I know lets build a lot of mechs using liquid securidite, we can call them 'Knightmare frames'. With these we can just faceroll the world and conquer japan.
 
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I had considered increasing pressure on Europe, to strengthen the European union. The problem is this requires so many moving parts and INTJs are not known for our ability to form such large networks.

I don't see Europe as worth conquering early as the people are so individualized and would likely revolt. Part of the trick would be to not destroy their culture. Who knows? They get so much paid time off and social services from their government, they might not have it in them to revolt. Until you get to eastern Europe where it isn't as stable.

Annexing Canada, would definitely be an early step if you are conquering the world from the US. They do have a military, but we are such great allies that they would not see it coming. They would probably not as mind much since we are very similar countries. Individual states would become mad as the house of representatives would need to be shifted around and the senate would get somewhere around 24 new senators.

We may have to create increase federalism and create regional governments that act under the federal government.

I know lets build a lot of mechs using liquid securidite, we can call them 'Knightmare frames'. With these we can just faceroll the world and conquer japan.
Again, you're thinking too jingoistically. Diplomacy is the best weapon to use in conquering the world, as it lets you accomplish your goals without firing a single shot. Note that, in my plan, only one problematic country is conquered, whereas yours requires the conquering of the entire planet. Mine is feasible- conquering one country is not that difficult if you're truly committed to it. Conquering the world is much harder. Consider the effort the occupation would take in Russia. Now consider how much effort an occupation of most of the world would take. In your plan, you'd be facing a guerrilla army of more than 1 billion. In mine, no more than 5 million.
 

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Again, you're thinking too jingoistically. Diplomacy is the best weapon to use in conquering the world, as it lets you accomplish your goals without firing a single shot. Note that, in my plan, only one problematic country is conquered, whereas yours requires the conquering of the entire planet. Mine is feasible- conquering one country is not that difficult if you're truly committed to it. Conquering the world is much harder. Consider the effort the occupation would take in Russia. Now consider how much effort an occupation of most of the world would take. In your plan, you'd be facing a guerrilla army of more than 1 billion. In mine, no more than 5 million.
I don't have hundreds of years to convince every nation to slowly merge together. Although you are correct, at this rate we could leave Russia and Europe to do their own thing. At some point the European union will become stronger on its own. Diplomatically convincing nations to merge together would be a very long process, although it would be far less traumatic than seizing their government by force.

How are you going to conquer the entirety of Asia, India could maybe be convinced to join this massive union, but not all of countries would agree.

Also, do we count Africa as worth ruling? This seems like a waste of resources, although the humanitarian mission would be righteous.
 

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world wide firesale program

first step would be convincing rothchild's and people of high economic power this is in their best interest

-gather network of influental people [bilderberg group etc]
-stop circulation of all currency
-stop commercial production of supplies and services worldwide
-aim for worldwide uprising

countries governments are hard to convince to join into megastates, polically it would be hard to conquer any single one especially in europe as the others would join together against you, however when the whole world in is state of chaos governments no longer matter, people who decide are militaries, economic leaders and the biggest policial leaders, all of whom fear the public.
talk to this group into joining your plan [can be predone before any of this is even iniated] and once they agree have them start campaining in their countries for united world. when people want united world governments are a small nuisance
 

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SCENARIO 1
SPOILERS : FALLOUT games

1) Hide in Vault-Tec bunker.
2) Use Shapeshifters to replace everybody that can launch nuclear bombs in the USA, and everybody that can stop the nuclear bombs midflight.
3) Become the overlord, do some kids to have a good gene population.
4) Your offsprings 150-200 years from now exit the bunker.
5) One of them become a courrier and get shot in the head, burried alive and survive.
6) Kill Benny
7) Become brotherhood member --> Become chief of brotherhood in your region --> Kill president, replace him
8) Kill every nations that are not brotherhood.
9) Use your ships to attack China
10) You win

SCENARIO 2
1) Hide in bunker with 50 individuals and enough food/air for 500 years in case problem happens.
2) Use Shapeshifters to replace everybody that can launch nuclear bombs in the USA, and everybody that can stop the nuclear bombs midflight.
3) Your offsprings leave bunker in 200 years, they go and find the locations where all the weapons, ammunitions are found.
4) They find planes hidden in bunker, they open the door and began to bombard China.
5) They win

SCENARIO 3
1) Get astronaut training, go to Mars.
2) Use Shapeshifters to replace everybody that can launch nuclear bombs in the USA, and everybody that can stop the nuclear bombs midflight.
3) Everybody on Earth is dead, the planet exploded, because some brilliant guys also managed to fucked up the core of the planet which caused volcano eruptions, earthquakes on the Richter magnitude of over 9000 which totally destroyed every bunker and life on Earth.
4) You live on Mars on a colony of 50 inhabitants living in a harsh environment. Everybody dies in less than 200 years because they've got no way of repairing the domes and terraformation experiments on Mars failed.

Scenario 4
1) Hide in bunker with 50 individuals and enough food/air for 500 years in case problem happens.
2) Don't stop a killer asteroid from destroying all life on Earth
3) Get out of bunker in 200 years. Find out its a fucking desert.
4) Bio-engineer humans into becoming mermaid that breath nitrogen.
5) Have fun re-inventing the Kamasutra in a seemingly 0 gravity environment.

Edit : Lol scenario 4. I don't know what they'll eat, there would only be anaerobic bacteria and some aerobic bacteria left until O2 disappear completely.
 
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The Evo Shandor approach.

I favor a brute force approach: take the form of a giant Slor. Worked for Gozer.
  1. Cold-riveted girders with cores of pure selenium. (Check).
  2. A lot of unnecessary surgery. (Check).
  3. Conduct bizarre rituals on the roof. (Check).
Almost there.
 

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This is one of those INTJ topics that makes me question if I'm an INTJ because I do not relate to the INTJ stereotype about wanting to dominate the world. I have no desire whatsoever to take over the world and never have. My sights have always been on what's next/after life in this world.

My thoughts about it are:
-We're here (in this world) for only but a moment, so wanting/seeking to dominate the world just seems futile to me; not that I want to, anyway.
-I don't think about improving/dominating the world, I think about improving/dominating my myself (my own thoughts & behavior) -- mastering my mind. Is it meant to be a joke, or are you guys serious? I value the golden rule and my own free will too much for world dominance to be a pursuit/desire of mine.
-I don't relate to wanting to set up shop here. I don't like the world/a lot of the people in it to want to be bothered/involved with it to that degree. The people in this world can have it. My sights are on what's next/after death; not dominating this temporary residence/stay.

But to each it's own, just never quite understood that about the anti social/introvert. Is it because we're the minority/exception/uncommon and therefore seek to make our way the way/what's common so that we're no longer 'outside' of society
 

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This is one of those INTJ topics that makes me question if I'm an INTJ because I do not relate to the INTJ stereotype about wanting to dominate the world. I have no desire whatsoever to take over the world and never have. My sights have always been on what's next/after life in this world.

My thoughts about it are:
-We're here (in this world) for only but a moment, so wanting/seeking to dominate the world just seems futile to me; not that I want to, anyway.
-I don't think about improving/dominating the world, I think about improving/dominating my myself (my own thoughts & behavior) -- mastering my mind. Is it meant to be a joke, or are you guys serious? I value the golden rule and my own free will too much for world dominance to be a pursuit/desire of mine.
-I don't relate to wanting to set up shop here. I don't like the world/a lot of the people in it to want to be bothered/involved with it to that degree. The people in this world can have it. My sights are on what's next/after death; not dominating this temporary residence/stay.

But to each it's own, just never quite understood that about the anti social/introvert. Is it because we're the minority/exception/uncommon and therefore seek to make our way the way/what's common so that we're no longer 'outside' of society
I don't think any INTJ really wants to take over the world, it is just thought porn. It is quite the interesting topic to consider, it is the ultimate challenge; what is harder than taking over the world, besides the impossible. It is just plausible enough that it could be possible.

As I age it becomes less important to play with the theoretical. I am getting more grounded in reality and self-improvement is becoming one of my core actions.
 
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<snip> My sights have always been on what's next/after life in this world. <snip>
Do you mean something like humans inhabiting other planets or the possibility of developing some kind of conscious intelligent machines that are capable of interstellar existence?
 

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Do you mean something like humans inhabiting other planets or the possibility of developing some kind of conscious intelligent machines that are capable of interstellar existence?
I think she is talking about conquering not just earth, but heaven and hell also. She is more ambitious than all of us, hers is the domain of gods.
 
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I don't think any INTJ really wants to take over the world, it is just thought porn. It is quite the interesting topic to consider, it is the ultimate challenge; what is harder than taking over the world, besides the impossible. It is just plausible enough that it could be possible.

As I age it becomes less important to play with the theoretical. I am getting more grounded in reality and self-improvement is becoming one of my core actions.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. Though I don't know what 'Thought Porn' is, I think I understand :) But I guess since it doesn't interest me I don't find it to be an interesting topic to consider or the ultimate challenge. The ultimate challenge to me is conquering myself....and a topic I find interesting to consider is what else is there besides life in this world. But like I said, to each...
 

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Do you mean something like humans inhabiting other planets or the possibility of developing some kind of conscious intelligent machines that are capable of interstellar existence?
Hopefully neither. I hope that whatever is to come is nothing like what life in this world is like (e i. human, machines, etc). My hope is that death is like what it's like when a seed is buried in the ground and comes/grows out of the grown as its true essence. I hope for that which eye hath not seen nor ear heard...(e i. spirit). Where telepathy is the native tongue and so on and so forth...


But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else.....and to each kind of seed its own body. Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.


...is more or less what I mean.
 
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