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okay, so for the longest time, i believed that i was actually intp. i mean, took all sorts of tests and they all said intp (even the cognitive function tests said i was most likely intp, second likely being entp, then third likely being intj/istp), and after some research, i figured that, hey, i can relate to the intp descriptions so maybe i'm intp after all.

but things began to change after looking further into the cognitive functions and checking out the entp descriptions (it happened when i was bored and thought i'd get back on the mbti for fun).

if you check out funkymbtifiction (it's a tumblr blog), they have a pretty cool and understandable description there of the functions and how each of the functions work in certain roles (like as dom, aux, ter and inferior), and idk, i just instantly clicked with the tertiary Fe, inferior Si, dominant Ne and auxiliary Ti.

but the thing is, i checked out the entp descriptions and well, as a whole, i can't seem to identify wholly (there are a lot of things i don't relate with like the extreme argumentativeness. but it could be that i'm just not aware of my own tendencies, i mean, whenever i'm not careful and just let myself be, i often find myself in a banter for some reason), but function by function, there's no doubt about it.

anyway, i don't know, i need help. i've been trying to figure out my type for awhile now, and managed to narrow things down to xntp. but then, it appears that i'm stuck there now. somebody, type me. i don't wanna do the typing myself because what if i don't become objective enough? what if i become a bit bias? it defeats the purpose of typing myself.

i have no idea why i want to type myself?? but i sort of just want to. i think it's no fun typing others if i don't know my own type. maybe that's that.

anyway, uhh, to those who are actually willing to type me, here are some chunks about myself that may help:

  • i kinda have the image of the class clown
  • i'm good at making / doing public speeches (or at least my classmates and teachers think so--they said i had this natural charm to make people laugh and it was fun (or funny haha) listening to / watching me talk)
  • according to my friend, if a stranger would look at me i'd seem to give off an 'arrogant' air, but if a person knew me then the air would be something 'optimistic' (like a ball of energy or something--not about that consistent though)
  • my favorite subjects at school are Literature, Communication, Physics, Computer and Physical Education
  • i like Physics, but only the theories and terminology, but the application and memorization gets me (like, even though I understand it, I suck because in the application, I am the queen of making minor errors which results to messed up final answers and in memorization, let's not talk about that)
  • i like doing impromptus
  • but you can't count on me on reciting a speech that is based on memorization (i'd end up doing shitloads of revisions along the way seriously)
  • i don't look/act my age (they say i act younger haha)
  • i don't mind doing something embarrassing in public as long as i'll have fun/get a good laugh out of it
  • most people drain me
  • i enjoy being alone
  • i highly prefer being in a trio for some reason (like, i prefer being with two close friends than with just one or three or more, i don't know why) (wait, i think i do, it's because when there's three of you, it eases the pressure on me that i have to keep the conversation going) (but this trio thing, i think it only works when we genuinely appreciate the company of one another)
  • when i like a person (as a friend), i wouldn't mind being with them 24/7, in silence or in noise, if they get a bit touchy, clingy whatnot and if they run to me when they're feeling troubled (but if i don't, i'd mind and i think my minding shows and i'd actually admit it if asked)
  • i seem to just know how some people feels or how some people are, or how they work and which buttons to press and which buttons won't and will work on them (i sometimes just figure these things out by observing their body language and paying attention to their speech patterns (usually unintentionally)) (but nevertheless, this doesn't mean that i need to care for them or i need to do something about it. unless my help is asked (or if it's someone close to me) i won't stick my nose in someone else's business, and won't be bothered by it.
  • i like playing therapist
  • i'm forgetful as fuck, like sometimes, during tests, i'd remember studying about something or i'd remember reading about something, but i can't remember what it is. like, i could recall the time when i've read it, or when i've heard it, but i can't recall what it is exactly, what's the spelling, or what's the specific word for it
  • i seem to have hots for Fi users?? (i just find out that most of the people i'm attracted to or find interesting are Fi users. maybe i find their nonconformist values sexy or something. haha :)) )
  • i do sports and like to exercise / run / walk (the sports that i am already sort of good at are softball, baseball, badminton, table tennis and tennis)
  • i write (i enjoy writing fiction stories the most, i just love the feeling writing gives me. but lately, i'm feeling frustrated because i feel like almost everything had been done, so instead of writing, i've been thinking up of stuffs that hadn't been done yet lately)
  • i'm okay with confrontations. when i am confronted, i don't run away and present the truth
  • ever since i was a kid, i always have wanted to do something no one has done before (or something to that effect)
  • i like proving people wrong when i really do think they're wrong and usually i do this in whichever way that would hit them hardest haha (like for the S types for example, I show them what they think can't be done can in fact be done, meanwhile for the N types, it depends, I present evidences to support my statement that something can indeed be done or something like that anyway)
  • when people tell me i can't or it's impossible, i just get this urge to prove them wrong
  • when people order me to do something, i just get this urge to disobey
  • i don't like admitting that i'm wrong (if i am) to someone i don't find competent enough
  • close minded people piss me off
  • discrimination pisses me off (like when i hear people using being a male or being older as a reason, that pisses me off. feeds my debating spirit all the goddamn time. like, people who say stuff like those, i feel compelled to crushing them emotionally. haha.)
  • oh, but i can be nice and considerate when i want to! (but at the same i can also be an asshole and inconsiderate, whaaat haha)
  • i'm quiet when there's nothing to talk about, but talkative when there's something that i think has to be discussed
  • i prefer listening over talking at times (i guess this depends on what the topic is or who am i talking with)
  • when i think someone's overly emotional or close minded or self-righteous or just downright incapable/incompetent, i try my best not to get into a debate / argument with them
okay, that's all for now. i hope that's enough for someone to be able to type me. if it's not enough, i'll add more. just ask.
i just wanna have fun with this whole typology thing, and i just don't think it's gonna be of any fun if i don't get to type myself properly.

thanks for reading all the way through this thing. happy holidays.
 

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I'm by no means an expert but hey, very few here are right.....

Anyway, I'm going to go for ENTP. I too used to think I was an INTP (who knows, maybe I really am). You seem to have a diverse range of interests and a great deal enthusiasm. This to me is a classic INTP quote - "I want to stay at home more and talk over the phone or Skype."
 
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I'm by no means an expert but hey, very few here are right.....

Anyway, I'm going to go for ENTP. I too used to think I was an INTP (who knows, maybe I really am). You seem to have a diverse range of interests and a great deal enthusiasm. This to me is a classic INTP quote - "I want to stay at home more and talk over the phone or Skype."
I've never really met an INTP or ENTP in real life before so I don't really know where to draw comparisons. The only INTP I knew turned out to be a mistyped ISFJ, meanwhile the only ENTP I knew turned out to be... well, something else. I don't know.

Anyway, hmm, is that so? Well, I guess if only I knew more interesting people and had more clothes to wear, I'd prefer going out more, hanging out with those people and doing tons of fun stuff with them, haha! But sadly, I don't. Almost everyone that I know of are such a drudgery to be with at some point (they have all sorts of expectations that are such a drag, I tell you). Meanwhile, unfortunately, those who are interesting enough apparently have extremely strict parents or live far away. It's really disappointing... /sigh/

Nevertheless, thanks for reading through my whole post!

If you don't mind my asking, why did you think you were INTP? What then made you realize you were ENTP?
 

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  • i like doing impromptus
  • but you can't count on me on reciting a speech that is based on memorization (i'd end up doing shitloads of revisions along the way seriously)
  • i highly prefer being in a trio for some reason (like, i prefer being with two close friends than with just one or three or more, i don't know why) (wait, i think i do, it's because when there's three of you, it eases the pressure on me that i have to keep the conversation going) (but this trio thing, i think it only works when we genuinely appreciate the company of one another)
  • i seem to just know how some people feels or how some people are, or how they work and which buttons to press and which buttons won't and will work on them (i sometimes just figure these things out by observing their body language and paying attention to their speech patterns (usually unintentionally)) (but nevertheless, this doesn't mean that i need to care for them or i need to do something about it. unless my help is asked (or if it's someone close to me) i won't stick my nose in someone else's business, and won't be bothered by it.
  • i like playing therapist
  • i'm forgetful as fuck, like sometimes, during tests, i'd remember studying about something or i'd remember reading about something, but i can't remember what it is. like, i could recall the time when i've read it, or when i've heard it, but i can't recall what it is exactly, what's the spelling, or what's the specific word for it
  • i seem to have hots for Fi users?? (i just find out that most of the people i'm attracted to or find interesting are Fi users. maybe i find their nonconformist values sexy or something. haha :)) )
  • i'm okay with confrontations. when i am confronted, i don't run away and present the truth
  • i like proving people wrong when i really do think they're wrong and usually i do this in whichever way that would hit them hardest haha (like for the S types for example, I show them what they think can't be done can in fact be done, meanwhile for the N types, it depends, I present evidences to support my statement that something can indeed be done or something like that anyway)
  • when people tell me i can't or it's impossible, i just get this urge to prove them wrong
  • when people order me to do something, i just get this urge to disobey
  • i don't like admitting that i'm wrong (if i am) to someone i don't find competent enough
  • oh, but i can be nice and considerate when i want to! (but at the same i can also be an asshole and inconsiderate, whaaat haha)
  • i'm quiet when there's nothing to talk about, but talkative when there's something that i think has to be discussed
  • i prefer listening over talking at times (i guess this depends on what the topic is or who am i talking with)
  • when i think someone's overly emotional or close minded or self-righteous or just downright incapable/incompetent, i try my best not to get into a debate / argument with them
ENTP shit ^. Welcome to the family. :laughing:
(I only removed a handful of bullet points)

  • most people drain me
  • i enjoy being alone
  • close minded people piss me off
NT Probz, get used to it. You'll grow out of it.

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If you don't mind my asking, why did you think you were INTP? What then made you realize you were ENTP?
When I stumbled across personality typing, I was going through a rough point in my life after coming out of a long term relationship. I think this had made me a bit more withdrawn. Also, I had always seen myself as an introvert.

What made me think I am ENTP? My desire for external stimulation and socialisation. I really hate doing the same thing over and over again. I have to change my surrounds other wise I get bored. Also, I'm not a raging extrovert but I do enjoy being around people. Again, I go crazy if I have no one to talk to for a while (and a while can just be a few days).
 
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When I stumbled across personality typing, I was going through a rough point in my life after coming out of a long term relationship. I think this had made me a bit more withdrawn. Also, I had always seen myself as an introvert.

What made me think I am ENTP? My desire for external stimulation and socialisation. I really hate doing the same thing over and over again. I have to change my surrounds other wise I get bored. Also, I'm not a raging extrovert but I do enjoy being around people. Again, I go crazy if I have no one to talk to for a while (and a while can just be a few days).
I see. After reading this, things kinda make more sense to me now. Thanks again!

ENTP shit ^. Welcome to the family. :laughing:
(I only removed a handful of bullet points)



NT Probz, get used to it. You'll grow out of it.

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Ohmygod. All this time I thought I was just an outgoing INTP??


Humm... wow, it seems like an ENTP mistyping, or mistaking one's self as an INTP seems pretty common. :laughing:
 

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They say ENTPs are the most "introverted" extroverts (Thanks to Ne+Ti).
(Some say INTPs are the most "introverted" introverts too)
This is maybe why many ENTPs are confused whether they are INTP.

E or I in MBTI doesn't mean you're outgoing or shy, it represents the order between your dominant/auxiliary functions.

Another popular way to generally sort out ENTPs and INTPs is to see if you're more "optimistic" or "pessimistic."

ENTPs tend to be more optimistic (Ne sees possibilities)
INTPs tend to be more pessimistic (Ti criticizes)

Of course they are exceptions though.

Another great quote I read from somewhere else:
"ENTPs are not open to people, they're open to ideas"
 

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They say ENTPs are the most "introverted" extroverts (Thanks to Ne+Ti).
(Some say INTPs are the most "introverted" introverts too)
This is maybe why many ENTPs are confused whether they are INTP.

E or I in MBTI doesn't mean you're outgoing or shy, it represents the order between your dominant/auxiliary functions.

Another popular way to generally sort out ENTPs and INTPs is to see if you're more "optimistic" or "pessimistic."

ENTPs tend to be more optimistic (Ne sees possibilities)
INTPs tend to be more pessimistic (Ti criticizes)

Of course they are exceptions though.

Another great quote I read from somewhere else:
"ENTPs are not open to people, they're open to ideas"
This was exactly why I was confused. Like, what if I was just an outgoing INTP? But then, while reading through the functions, like how they work in each position, I couldn't wholly identify to the Ti-dom, Ne-aux, Si-ter and Fe-inferior despite testing as an INTP. Instead, where I was able to identify with was with the Ne-dom, Ti-aux, Fe-tertiary and Si-inferior (and while I was at it, I also realized that I never actually had an unwanted emotional outburst in front of anyone. The emotional outbursts occur when I'm alone. I don't tend to snap at people under stress. Instead, I forget to eat and just want to shut up and shut everyone up. But a "breath of fresh air" always does the trick and never fails to raise my spirit up always.)


The optimism, I can relate I guess?? I guess because, I don't know. Haha! I've always have considered myself the "optimistic pessimist" because it was easy for me to see the bad side of things, but then I am also as quick to see the good side even in that bad side (so basically, in my eyes, there's no real bad side. An event may just not favor me, but it's not exactly bad since that bad happening may possibly lead to something good, or maybe even a better happening).


If that quote is true, then I certainly am an ENTP. :laughing:
 

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I'm an E who finds people draining too. Although mostly that's because small talk takes effort and a lot of people bore me. Put me with the right people, and light the blue touch paper....

I work with a couple of INTPs, and the two main differences that I notice are that although we think along very similar lines, I seem to have more of an executive function than they do. They come up with exactly the same analyses as I do, but my response is "well, what should we do to fix this?" and they look at me, puzzled, and then discourse some more.

The other difference is in the use of the Tertiary. I definitely use Fe way more than Si.
 

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You are probably an ENTP. When they say ENTPs are the most introverted-extroverts, they are right. In generally I get stoked by being with people and energized; however, if I am with boring, uninteresting, unintelligent, and/or extremely negative people, they drain the hell out of me. When I say unintelligent, I don't mean people who aren't book learners or smart in the scholastic sense but people who can't come up with their own thoughts or rely on extremely one-sided social media to gain their information. I have had really interesting and well thought out conversations with construction guys who barely got their GED and have had really dumb, unoriginal, and illogical conversations with people that have their Masters degrees.

I really do like to be alone when I can. I find I don't like other people setting a schedule or being irritated when I "take to long" for their taste. I also love to travel alone which I get to do for work. That way I can explore without anybody cramping my style or complaining. Although I always end up striking up conversations with people wherever I go.

It's funny but some of my Introverted friends are much more clingy to wanting to be around people than I am. They do not want to go to a party or a large gathering; however, they want their SO or close friends (one at a time) around them as much as possible. Although this may be a IS trait since the INs I know like people in small doses and are much more comfortable being by themselves.
 
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ENTP, definitely.

I have a great deal in common with my INTP friends, but they tend to
a) find socialising more of a chore because they're less good at reading other people/empathising (see tertiary vs inferior Fe)
b) be more pessimistic (I think of myself as a cranky optimist or a cheerful realist), and
c) be more obsessed with their special interests instead of every little random thing that catches their fancy.

The bit that tends to confuse people is that ENTPs aren't necessarily huge party animals; I know introverted feelers who are about as outgoing as I am. And I've never yet met a self typed "outgoing INTP" that I thought was actually an INTP when we started talking, the much more likely scenario is that they're mistyped, often young ENTPs with a low tolerance for fools and social niceties that serve no purpose.
 
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