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I'm pretty new to this Myers Briggs stuff. I'm an xNTP (I've tested myself twice and one time was 11% E and the other time was 11% I. Sooo I'm neither? If someone can enlighten me on this, go for it. I can relate to parts of both INTP and ENTP. I am not narcisistic but some of the other ENTP stuff matches me. I do not shrink into corners and avoid people but most of the rest of INTP matches me.

I have had the unfortunate experience of having met damn near zero NT's and this kills me deeply. I was so glad when I read about the Myers Briggs personality test because it gave a reason to why "everyone is so freaking stupid" turns out this was just my interpretation of people who were not "NT's". I shall try to rectify this thinking but it's hard to denote people a drip of respect when they pray to a God their whole lives when they have never taken 20 mins to realize that god is provably non-existent.

So I think "Hi" was the purpose of this message, I just started typing with no intended direction.

Hi. (please don't just resond "hi" and let that final "topic" shine through as more pertinent than the above passage.)
 

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First warning would be to not assume just because you're NT you're suddenly atheist,
Or you're theistic for being NF, SP or SJ.
Not very "logical" is it now? haha


INFJ Agnostic here,
Most likely Atheist!
xNTP's are awesome people,
Feel free to drop a message if you feel like talking or getting to know the site!

You'll find such wonderful people here! :)
 

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I'm pretty new to this Myers Briggs stuff. I'm an xNTP (I've tested myself twice and one time was 11% E and the other time was 11% I. Sooo I'm neither? If someone can enlighten me on this, go for it. I can relate to parts of both INTP and ENTP. I am not narcisistic but some of the other ENTP stuff matches me. I do not shrink into corners and avoid people but most of the rest of INTP matches me.

I have had the unfortunate experience of having met damn near zero NT's and this kills me deeply. I was so glad when I read about the Myers Briggs personality test because it gave a reason to why "everyone is so freaking stupid" turns out this was just my interpretation of people who were not "NT's". I shall try to rectify this thinking but it's hard to denote people a drip of respect when they pray to a God their whole lives when they have never taken 20 mins to realize that god is provably non-existent.

So I think "Hi" was the purpose of this message, I just started typing with no intended direction.

Hi. (please don't just resond "hi" and let that final "topic" shine through as more pertinent than the above passage.)
Welcome.

Tests or quizzes are usually just the first step.

The next step is to obsess over the descriptions littered across the intersprawl.

Then, to frustratingly recount your personality in the questionnaire located at the thread, ''What's my Type?'' at least 3 times.

Then, you'll start to doubt your NTness. What if you're actually an INFJ? Or.. What if you're an ISTP? Oh gawds.

And then, finally... You'll decide you're an xNTP. :p
 

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Welcome.

Tests or quizzes are usually just the first step.

The next step is to obsess over the descriptions littered across the intersprawl.

Then, to frustratingly recount your personality in the questionnaire located at the thread, ''What's my Type?'' at least 3 times.

Then, you'll start to doubt your NTness. What if you're actually an INFJ? Or.. What if you're an ISTP? Oh gawds.

And then, finally... You'll decide you're an xNTP. :p
THIS. And by now I somehow doubt it will ever go away completely :(

Anyway, welcome to the forum! If you want to get an overall better insight in how the whole type thing works I highly recommend checking out the cognitive functions and their connections. Not saying it's easier or anything, but it explains the system so much better.
 

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I love how you can generalize people on this site with a little bit of grounds to do so. I usually find generalizations very offensive regardless of where I am situated in the occurrence (be it giver receiver or witness). Could you explain what it means to my NTP that I'm neither I nor E?

I think surely then NTP must be a recipe for atheist. God is provably non existent enough for any person who puts enough thought into it to arrive at the conclusion that he definitely doesn't exist. (the perceiving in me hates what I'm saying right now, usually I say this with far less acclaimed certainty, but I can't deny that it is utter fact in my mind that god is as humorously imaginary as the flying spaghetti monster deity that I neglect to pray to each night.)
 

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Probably*, sorry, it's just you misspelled it twice and my brain screamed at me to do something. I don't know any xNTP's in real life and only a couple of introverts, and they're not very interesting either. What makes you certain that God doesn't exist? I don't really care, just curious. I'm an apathetic agnostic myself. Which to me seems more natural for Perceiving types, although I know very little about Myers Briggs to be honest. Go to the type me part of the forum to find out if you're an ENTP or INTP. Although I guess if you feel an urge to be away from people for a few hours each day then you'd be more of an INTP? Don't take my word on it.

Welcome to the forum. Hope you find what you're looking for. :)
 

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Welcome.

Tests or quizzes are usually just the first step.

The next step is to obsess over the descriptions littered across the intersprawl.

Then, to frustratingly recount your personality in the questionnaire located at the thread, ''What's my Type?'' at least 3 times.

Then, you'll start to doubt your NTness. What if you're actually an INFJ? Or.. What if you're an ISTP? Oh gawds.

And then, finally... You'll decide you're an xNTP. :p
Actually I'm pretty happy with my diagnosis. xNTP describes me a wee bit too well. I relate heavily to parts of both of them (E/I). I relate more to INTP I think (most of it describes me well), there is really just one passage from ENTP that I relate heavily to. I laughed when I read a passage from ENTP that said: "ENTPs are basically optimists, but in spite of this (perhaps because of it?), they can become petulant about small setbacks and inconveniences. (Major setbacks they regard as challenges, and tackle with determination.) ENTPs have little patience with those they consider wrongheaded or unintelligent, and show little restraint in demonstrating this. In general, however, they are genial, even charming, when not being harassed by life."


my only exception here is the "
and show little restraint in demonstrating this" I don't typically point out peoples illogical thinking.
 

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Welcome to PerC! Now that you know you're an xNTP, here are three questions to answer to find out which you one you are:

1) Are you AWESOME or are you cool?
a) AWESOME
b) cool

2) Are you ALWAYS goofy or often goofy?
a) ALWAYS
b) often

3) Are you KICK ASS or bad ass?
a) KICK ASS
b) bad ass

If you answered a) to all of thee above, you're an ENTP. If you answered b) to all of thee above, you're an INTP. 2/3 sides with E or I respectively.

Also note... this is the official xNTP test. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
 

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Probably*, sorry, it's just you misspelled it twice and my brain screamed at me to do something. I don't know any xNTP's in real life and only a couple of introverts, and they're not very interesting either. What makes you certain that God doesn't exist? I don't really care, just curious. I'm an apathetic agnostic myself. Which to me seems more natural for Perceiving types, although I know very little about Myers Briggs to be honest. Go to the type me part of the forum to find out if you're an ENTP or INTP. Although I guess if you feel an urge to be away from people for a few hours each day then you'd be more of an INTP? Don't take my word on it.

Welcome to the forum. Hope you find what you're looking for. :)
I typically type without any grammar or spelling considered to splurge out my ideas, then I just go back and fix any red spell check lines, so my grammar is not given a lot of consideration in such posts.

I have a feeling that the xNTP's you know of would require an expression of intelligence (philosophical pondering or something) to bother opening up their true selves to you or anyone else. I've only ever met one person that I opened up my entire person to. She was my ENTJ ex girlfriend.

I find apathy to be the leading cause of agnosticism. If you care enough, you will find the answer, I could lead you there if you wished. There is far too many different angles you can tear the god fable down from. But I would have to start with the question; where is your semi-belief in god rooted? What makes you think there is a chance god exists?
 

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Welcome to PerC! Now that you know you're an xNTP, here are three questions to answer to find out which you one you are:

1) Are you AWESOME or are you cool?
a) AWESOME
b) cool

2) Are you ALWAYS goofy or often goofy?
a) ALWAYS
b) often

3) Are you KICK ASS or bad ass?
a) KICK ASS
b) bad ass

If you answered a) to all of thee above, you're an ENTP. If you answered b) to all of thee above, you're an INTP. 2/3 sides with E or I respectively.

Also note... this is the official xNTP test. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
A, B, B/A. Hows that for an even split with me being as honest as possible to a rather ambiguous quiz? :)
 

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If I knew an xNTP, I'd know it. I think maybe I just don't know enough people, we are a minority after all. Most people I know are ESFJ's, sadly. Drives me crazy.

Anyway, the reason I believe that some kind of deity just might exist (I doubt it, and I don't really care anyhow since I'm not really up for dedicating my life to something that might be true or a deity that is petty enough to punish me for thinking, if it does exist it isn't anything that is described in any of the religions that exist) is that we cannot disprove it. Therefore I chose to view it as a potential explanation. String theory isn't empirically proven but it could still be a valid theory, right? When it comes to the metaphysical there are no certainties, but essentially I do live my life as an atheist.
 

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A, B, B/A. Hows that for an even split with me being as honest as possible to a rather ambiguous quiz? :)
ENTP. INTPs can't be both bad ass and kick ass, that's too much awesome for the INTP.
 

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If I knew an xNTP, I'd know it. I think maybe I just don't know enough people, we are a minority after all. Most people I know are ESFJ's, sadly. Drives me crazy.

Anyway, the reason I believe that some kind of deity just might exist (I doubt it, and I don't really care anyhow since I'm not really up for dedicating my life to something that might be true or a deity that is petty enough to punish me for thinking, if it does exist it isn't anything that is described in any of the religions that exist) is that we cannot disprove it. Therefore I chose to view it as a potential explanation. String theory isn't empirically proven but it could still be a valid theory, right? When it comes to the metaphysical there are no certainties, but essentially I do live my life as an atheist.
Whoop! Just found out I know an xNTP (leaning to E) {6% E}. Great conversations shall ensue. It sounds like you're half way to atheist already. I agree that ESFJ's are too frequent and mentally tiring.

Proof CAN be provided by displaying a mountain of 98% conclusive arguments against theism. So here we go. god used magic to create everything, yay? Or nay? I will assume you say yay (though I could just as easily argue nay), so if magic exists then the first point to address is "does it have limits" if not, I can say abracadabra and a lion appears next to me. therefore magic has limits. now that magic has limits we can study, observe and define these limits, thus creating something startlingly resembling of a new theory of physics. If it is just physics, we can recreate it, therefore god is nothing supernatural, therefore he is downgraded to an alien at best because we have now proved that the term "supernatural" or "magic" is in itself, a paradox.

So now, we have an alien, why should he give a shit about us, why should he go to such immense effort as to create an ALL TOO CLICHÉ heaven and hell, {do I really need to point out to people how ridiculously cliché heaven and hell are? like seriously, a guy with horns, a pitchfork and horns and fire that burns you for all eternity in misery and pain with all the rapists and murderers? seriously? that's believable?}.

From here we address how ridiculous the mechanism of heaven and hell is. Firstly you need to have a so called "soul" which is a pretty big leap of faith to believe, but ok we will assume you have a soul (which is consisting of which known atoms btw?). then those atoms (or whatever your soul is made of) need to have a method of transportation from earth to wherever this realm of hell or heaven is which needs to be non magical because we already established that the term "magic" is a fallacy. So now this alien needs to figure out how to perform the very specific task of taking everyones souls after they die and "judgeing" them good or bad then transporting them to this heaven or hell which is likely nowhere on this plane of existance. Seems like a bloody difficult task for an alien with no apparent incentive to perform.

Is this enough proof yet or shall I triple the size of this rant?
 

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I'm pretty new to this Myers Briggs stuff. I'm an xNTP (I've tested myself twice and one time was 11% E and the other time was 11% I. Sooo I'm neither? If someone can enlighten me on this, go for it. I can relate to parts of both INTP and ENTP. I am not narcisistic but some of the other ENTP stuff matches me. I do not shrink into corners and avoid people but most of the rest of INTP matches me.

I have had the unfortunate experience of having met damn near zero NT's and this kills me deeply. I was so glad when I read about the Myers Briggs personality test because it gave a reason to why "everyone is so freaking stupid" turns out this was just my interpretation of people who were not "NT's". I shall try to rectify this thinking but it's hard to denote people a drip of respect when they pray to a God their whole lives when they have never taken 20 mins to realize that god is provably non-existent.

So I think "Hi" was the purpose of this message, I just started typing with no intended direction.

Hi. (please don't just resond "hi" and let that final "topic" shine through as more pertinent than the above passage.)
Hello and welcome.
Always strive to maintain that unique person that you are - and remember, you can be observed but not defined. People are varied and infinitely variable.
I am INFJ - occasionally. All the rest of the time I am me.
 

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Don't shut others out just because they're not NT's. It can feel like everyone IS stupid, especially in your teens if you're not into the "popular" trends and activities. But I encourage you to keep an open mind.
Also obviously I don't know you at all..but be careful to not make a religion out of your lack of religion. Ya feel? Oh and read a lot of books. That's always sound advice.
I'm on the border of ENTP and INTP too, I got 11% E my first time and then 9% I. ENTPs are considered the most introverted of the extroverts, so it's normal to be on the line.
 
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