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You want to improve your concentration? Maybe your social skills could use a little boost? You suck at flirting with women and have been single for...? Do you struggle with motivation to finally move out and go to a gym?

YouTube has something for you. Try to type one of these topics and see thousands of videos on it. Either with a charismatic handsome guy or with fancy looking animations. They seem all to be similar to each other. Many also try to advertise some books and courses for a lot of money.

It's kind of an industry.

My question is: do they really provide much insight? Have they helped you in you life or turned out to be yet another way of wasting your time by sitting on a couch watching them for hours?
 

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Similar question, do self-help books work? They might hold some insight, but do they help?
I suppose if you want a very base-level understanding on the subject, then it might help a little.
But a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. These videos are made to be short, easily digestible and (usually) to sell a product to a mass-audience.
Better to find a personal qualified teacher I think.


If you wanted to improve your social skills and finding a woman, then sitting in front of a computer screen being unsocial is probably the last thing you should be doing. PUAs in particular are trash who know its easy to profit off of lonely, sex-starved men.
 

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I'm going to be very frank:

Yes.

Youtube is a video hosting site where people talk about what they are passionate about. In the worst case you have people trying to sell you something (like everywhere else) but in the best case you actually get some useful advice. Don't get me wrong, I would NOT blindly trust anyone who spends a considerable amount of time on Youtube to give me any useful advice...however that is not to say that I would not consider their advice is not worth listening to.
 

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I never subscribe to self help gurus
That is what I have therapy for and the ability to research subjects and read online for.

You tube has been useful when I needed to know how to apply a few make up or hair techniques
You tube has also been helpful when I needed guidance on my car with some maintenance or when I taught myself drywalling and texturing years ago it proved beneficial. So I look up technical stuff and the application, not the self help stuff.

Nothing against self help just to be clear. I do often think Alotta the self help gurus are ESTPs & ENFJs giving advice anyways. So not really thinking I need to seek out the guidance of either given the nature of the advice probably already being what would be obvious and common sense to me in many cases. My sister is pretty big on sharing different inspirational self help guru stuff. When she shares I read and listen. It just is not stuff which I personally struggle with in many cases. And the things I do consider personal flaws that are a challenge I feel way better about discussing with a therapist or a friend.
 

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One thing is that each individual's issues are largely personal, so they often require specific measures. Another problem is probably about the need for more specific plan of action. Action is the key to change anything in your life. Very few of these provide more specific, practical guidance about how to implement a change.

I must admit that those videos can be quite entertaining. Many of them have cool animations (often drawing hand type).
 

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No they don't and perhaps they do. It depends on the person who is actually taking the advice. Not everybody is the same.
 

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I never subscribe to self help gurus
That is what I have therapy for and the ability to research subjects and read online for.

You tube has been useful when I needed to know how to apply a few make up or hair techniques
You tube has also been helpful when I needed guidance on my car with some maintenance or when I taught myself drywalling and texturing years ago it proved beneficial. So I look up technical stuff and the application, not the self help stuff.

Nothing against self help just to be clear. I do often think Alotta the self help gurus are ESTPs & ENFJs giving advice anyways. So not really thinking I need to seek out the guidance of either given the nature of the advice probably already being what would be obvious and common sense to me in many cases. My sister is pretty big on sharing different inspirational self help guru stuff. When she shares I read and listen. It just is not stuff which I personally struggle with in many cases. And the things I do consider personal flaws that are a challenge I feel way better about discussing with a therapist or a friend.

That may be a nice example of a healthy extrovert behaviour.


I don't seek that kind of confort on youtube anyways it could feel great in small dosis like an ocasional perfume but i rather prefer practical advice about something specific or methaphysic stuff. Oh annddd MUUUUSICCC fountain.

Anyways it can be a good oasis for some people that seek possitiveness references.
 

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I take anything I see, hear or read with a grain of salt.

It's nice to be open to other people's interpretations, but ultimately you have to decide and judge for yourself what's true and valid information. And just because everyone's "doing it" doesn't make it right.. YouTube is nice for learning about current trends, past philosophies, digital art computer based techniques, but supposed 'gurus' (I bet some of them are financially sponsored from private interest) are no different than you and I. They're just better at talking. And even peer-reviewed academic journals can be biased as the board of directors who approve of research papers aren't immune to sociopolitical bias, which is unscientific in itself.

Like everything in life, check your sources. You inherently know when something is consistent or not.
 

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Many of them offer a lot of payed material on their sites with free stuff being just a bait, constructed in a way to encourage someone to pay exorbitant prices for ebooks or videos of unknown value.

There was kind of a scandal when one Polish YouTuber did a video exposing the fraud of a special case of such coaches: pick-up artists, although some seem to be more clever with "I'm better than them" formula, they even tend to criticize PuAs while peddling similar techniques under different names. Their payed materials and courses are usually insanely expensive, techniques quite unsophisticated and often bordering with harassment. Lots of bloated promises and false hopes.

There is hardly ever any evidence of their own successes, they sometimes write fake positive comments and employ their female friends to make recordings that look like them successfully getting phone numbers and dates from girls.

Now I understand why so many girls wear headphones on the street.
 

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I guess if it helps people, then it doesn't matter to me. I understand it can be a dangerous situation for people who are trusting, but life is dangerous that way. But, what I am is annoyed with seeing a lot of that spilling over here on to the forums. I'm here to chat and exchange ideas, and there are so many people trying to launch their little self-help empires, and occasionally some minions trail along. It's kind of like having a conversation with a billboard.
 

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My question is: do they really provide much insight? Have they helped you in you life or turned out to be yet another way of wasting your time by sitting on a couch watching them for hours?
Yes, some videos help, but they're designed for profit motives (obviously), so it's up to the viewer to take control of their own lives and implement what they learn at their own discretion. In my experience, they're very surface level. If you're more knowledgeable about the topics they talk about, then the videos come off as very basic. But, there's always something to learn.
 

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The more obscure the topic, the more likely the videos will be helpful. Obscure topics ensure the creator isn't trying to make a profit off a trend, and therefore they're more likely to be sincere.

When there's a problematic, obscure topic, ANY advice on it becomes useful because there's often very, very little advice regarding the problem since not many people are aware it exists.

Things like body image, relationship problems, social skills etc. are all areas people commonly have issues in. Therefore, it is more likely that profiteers will try to utilize these problems in order to make a profit off of them. Other topics like having a rare, chronic disease profiteers will less likely know about and therefore won't think to create a dumb self-help book for money.
 
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