[Enneagram Type 3] Can ISTJ’s be 3w2’s?

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    Can ISTJ’s be 3w2’s?

    It seems 3w2 are all extroverts. Do ISTJ 3w2’s exist? If so, are they somewhat uncommon?



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    Why not ? If there are Enneagram types that correlate with every MBTI type, it would be 3 and 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricSlime View Post
    Why not ? If there are Enneagram types that correlate with every MBTI type, it would be 3 and 6.
    Awesome! 3w2 might be the final answer. I thought 3w2’s were mostly ESTJ, ESFJ and ENFJ, etc.

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    Type 5w6

    To give you my very uneducated answer: They exist and they are not as common as 1w9s, 6w5s or 3w4s but also not as uncommon as 2s, 4s or 7s. I mean, it's not the first enneagram that comes to the mind when you think of ISTJs, but it is not shocking or anything like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo Rice View Post
    To give you my very uneducated answer: They exist and they are not as common as 1w9s, 6w5s or 3w4s but also not as uncommon as 2s, 4s or 7s. I mean, it's not the first enneagram that comes to the mind when you think of ISTJs, but it is not shocking or anything like that...
    Well, the 6 score is indeed higher but the core fear doesn’t resonate. Might just be a 3 no wing since the 2 score barely edges out the 4 but both are low.
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    Type 5w6

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely View Post
    Well, the 6 score is indeed higher but the core fear doesn’t resonate. Might just be a 3 no wing since the 2 score barely edges out the 4 but both are low.
    If you don't relate to the basic fear/desire/passion of a type, even if you score high on it, you are not that type.
    I don't think wings matter too much (they're more like accessories to your type)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo Rice View Post
    If you don't relate to the basic fear/desire/passion of a type, even if you score high on it, you are not that type.
    I don't think wings matter too much (they're more like accessories to your type)
    Oh I see! Thanks for the explanation!
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    2w3s, 3s, 7s and 8s are extroverts. Being a 3 is much more than being ambitious and a lot of these 'introverted' 3s are actually disintegrated 6s.
    Last edited by bundleofraindrops; 06-16-2018 at 06:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Fine View Post
    Well, the 6 score is indeed higher but the core fear doesn’t resonate.
    6s are the most complex type and counterphobic 6s don't tend to relate to the basic fear of a 6.

    ''When healthy, counterphobic Sixes are often courageous, willing to take a tiger by the tail and yank. They can be physically adventuresome, highly skilled and have a real gusto for living. If they participate in a tradition, it is usually in the role of constructive gadfly. Their underlying mission is to serve the tradition by stirring it up. They consider themselves team players who offer useful alternatives, using the old as a springboard to the new. To this end, they may be energetic, honest, assertive, and have many good ideas. If a healthy counterphobic Six is not serving a tradition, he or she is often creative and original. The Sixes ability to look past appearances and to question assumptions leads them deeper into a unique point of view. Artistic expression is attractive as a core assertion of their power and as a way to resolve a general sense of alienation.

    Less healthy counterphobic Sixes often have an edgy, restless quality. Some channel their energies into physical activity; they enjoy sports and tend to be more openly competitive than phobic Sixes. Counterphobics tend to hide their insecurities with cool or tough masks. The point of physical challenge is to expel fear by facing danger. Instead of being passively afraid, they take risks, call up fear, and then beat it. If phobic Sixes are addicted to security, then counterphobic Sixes are addicted to insecurity.
    Counterphobic Sixes are often defiant or rebellious towards authority and habitually find counterexamples to whatever others assert. Despite this attitude, counterphobics are often loyal, hard-driven workers and highly idealistic. They may feel more acutely that the world is unfairly biased against them; some Sixes have a ranting quality, especially when they talk about governments and power structures. Many counterphobics are wryly funny and good at satire. When insecure, however, their humor can bite and sting.
    When deeply unhealthy, counterphobic Sixes can be aggressive, unstable and senselessly contentious. To quell their inner fears, they take action compulsively and are prone to making bad decisions. They can also be fruitlessly hyperactive, as well as paranoid, accusative, belligerent and vengeful. Some counterphobics prize their hatreds and can be aggressively unlikable or even dangerous. When inflamed they can adopt a vigilante-like mentality. Deeply unhealthy counterphobics generally act much worse than the authorities they accuse of abusing power.''

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    I'm an ISTJ and 3w2, I'm extroverted, socially speaking, but I am an Introverted Sensing dominant user. I think one is more likely to be an introvert, socially speaking, if they have an introverted dominant function, but having an introverted dominant function doesn't mean one can't be socially extroverted. Please correct me if I'm wrong however
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