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    Enneatype 3 and wings.

    genuine acceptance
    poised assurance
    motivated confidence

    competitive diplomacy
    efficient expedience
    self-promoting narcissism

    opportunistic scheming
    deceptive sabotage
    relentless monomania


    Type three people care more than most about appearances and effectiveness. They can become trapped by compulsive deceit, of themselves or others. One of their talents is an intuitive ability to instantly adapt to rapidly shifting situations.

    Except in rare cases, people of type three show a flavoring from one of the two adjacent wing points, so we can say they are three with a two wing (3/2) or three with a four wing (3/4).

    Like all humans, threes also come in three instinctual flavors: social (3sc), sexual (3sx), or self-preserving (3sp). In addition, threes also experience nine distinct levels of mental-emotional health (briefly described by the phrases at the top of this page). Therefore, it is possible to distinguish fifty-four distinct subflavors of type three.


    three with a two wing


    general description

    Average 3/2 is the prototypical sales personality. The threeish desire to be admired is stronger than the twoish desire to please others, so it is more important to them that they look good than that they make others feel good, although they will do both if they can. Unlike the more withdrawn 3/4, they want to reach the largest possible audience. Threeish, mainstream attractiveness is flavored by twoish seductiveness, rather than fourish uniqueness.


    balanced and transcendent states

    Healthy 3/2 loses the false polish and becomes more real. The vanity of three turns into genuine self-observation, and the seductive pride of two turns into appropriate humility. Balanced 3/2s are friendly and personable people whose natural social skills help others feel comfortable. They find a new kind of pleasure at playing without always having to win, although of course they can still choose to be competitive when it's appropriate. Genuine feelings emerge and are given expression as two integrates to four, while three going to six provides a sense of belonging that builds powerful bonds of friendship.

    Further 3/2 integration leads to an astonishing ability to generate enthusiastic optimism and self-confidence in others. Highly evolved 3/2 is usually an expert motivational speaker, and often takes advantage of that skill. The uplifting message is delivered with style and power, zooming right to the heart of the listener, where the magic of positive thinking can begin. These are the teachers who bring us to our feet shouting and jumping for joy, eager to take the reins of our life and charge onward into the future.


    unbalanced and unhealthy states

    Unbalanced 3/2s become trapped by the vain desire to be admired and attractive. They begin to hide more and more behind their false emotional facade. Trying ever harder to show the emotional states they think others think they should show, they get further out of touch with whatever real emotions are being ignored. The anger and pushiness from the two-wing's disintegration to eight combine with the three's nineish emotional deadening, for a kind of hostile self-promotion than can be most annoying.

    If 3/2s lose touch still further, eightish anger at the world is the only emotion that is strong enough to penetrate the cotton wall of nineish deadness. In a peculiar, zombielike state, the most horrible atrocities might be committed. Sometimes extremely unbalanced 3/2s are nice-seeming, quiet people who just happen to be mass-murderers or serial rapists. See who brought you to ruin! I am the one.


    physical appearance

    3/2s usually want to be well-dressed, according to the top fashion of whatever social group they belong to. Their clothing is well-chosen and reflects the mainstream, not the fringes of fashion. They seldom let themselves become overweight. Makeup and jewelery are always well within the norms of their largest audience. Note, however, that some audiences like excess, and threes who are addressing such groups will meet their expectations. 3/2s possess a calm, cheerful social manner, always trying to show the best side. They want you to feel that they are emotionally together even if they aren't.


    callings

    Some 3/2s find work that puts them on display in a glamorous way. Actors, singers, football players. Others follow their ambition into the business world, becoming executives, salespeople, managers, or advertising agents. They might be motivational speakers, models, game show hosts, or newscasters. There are 3/2 DJs, politicians, and image consultants. Of course, 3/2s can also be found doing many other kinds of work.



    three with a four wing


    general description

    Average 3/4 wants to be admired for unique presentation, not mass-marketed stereotypes. Unlike the 3/2s, who want everybody to admire them, 3/4s are more interested in securing the attention of a select following. The introspection of the four-wing makes them less comfortable than 3/2 in social situations, although the powerful threeish social grace usually hides it. Because threeish vanity is stronger than fourish emotionality, they usually manage to stay cool in times of stress, unlike the more emotionally volatile 4/3s.


    balanced and transcendent states

    Balanced 3/4 is gentle, compassionate, and smoothly effective. When three integrates to six and four integrates to one, a new sense of social responsibility combines with the wisdom that comes from emotional equanimity. Healthy 3/4s are effective at accomplishing real-world goals and intuitive enough to be good advisers. They make excellent business mentors or career counselors. They might be good at rescuing a failing company, or seeing that what is really needed is to break it up and sell the parts.

    Extremely advanced 3/4 combines quiet self-assurance with deep emotional insight into other people's experiences. They may appear at the tops of large organizations devoted to improving life for everyone on the planet, or they may work quietly behind the scenes, spreading a sense of confidence and optimism among the members of their team. Wherever they go they leave behind a feeling of deep connection and belonging. They are subtle teachers who set an example of compassionate action.


    unbalanced and unhealthy states

    Unbalanced 3/4 hides loss of self-worth behind a veneer of artificial coolness. If the success-orientation of the three becomes too compulsive, and the fourish introspection gets out of hand, 3/4s lose their genuineness. They become less socially adept, and somewhat manipulative, as their fourish self-dislike leads to a twoish desire to reinforce self-image by "helping" others. The self-deceptive pride that results is hidden behind emotional deadening as three pulls in the worst of nine. Such people can be difficult to like, because of the way they constantly remind themselves and others of their own accomplishments.

    In the worst case, 3/4 is capable of atrocities, just like 3/2, except that because of the greater self-examination of the four-wing, such crimes are more likely to be isolated cases. 3/4 can be rather self-destructive as all the normal rules of social conduct are abandoned in an attempt to generate attention of any kind from others. In the deepest psychosis, mass-murder-suicides are possible. Everyone else gets to be famous, but not me. But watch! I'll get my fifteen minutes, when they see what I have done. Just wait. I'll show them.


    physical appearance

    3/4s are interested in appearing attractive and sexy, because they are threes, but the four-wing makes them also want to be unique. Their overall appearance usually includes elements that set them apart from the crowd. 3/4s usually want to set the next fashion, rather than following the current one. Fourish sensitivity to aesthetics and form gives them a subtlety and flair that 3/2s usually seem to lack. Like 4/3s, they want to inject a bit of drama into their presentation.


    callings

    Some 3/4s find work that shows them to the world in a unique but culturally acceptable way. Leading-edge pop singers, actors, politicians, and talk-show hosts. Others succeed by mastering the corporate world, becoming CEOs, entrepeneurs, fashion consultants. They might be in retail sales, insurance, real estate, or commodities. There are 3/4 computer technicians, auto mechanics, novelists, and artists. Of course, 3/4s can also be found doing many other kinds of work.

    type three
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    Interesting, my quiz showed that I was 3w2; however, many of those descriptions do not match me at all. I do not really worry about my physical appearance, and I definitely disagree with taking one of the jobs that are listed. I retook it three times with same results though.

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    I am a 3/4 and this describes me perfectly, thanks for posting!

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    In the deepest psychosis, mass-murder-suicides are possible. Everyone else gets to be famous, but not me. But watch! I'll get my fifteen minutes, when they see what I have done. Just wait. I'll show them.
    I'm a 3/4, jesus christ, that reminded me of Sylvia Plath. woah... haha. I'm a future cinematographer, and I do take pride in my work... but not to an extent of manipulation. I think I'm a balanced/extreme 3w4, no way I'm a human-hater. I'm also an ENFP, so it compliments my personality well! thank you. Now I understand why I am this way... haha in a sense anyway. :P

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    Type 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Hudifah Rabie View Post
    Interesting, my quiz showed that I was 3w2; however, many of those descriptions do not match me at all. I do not really worry about my physical appearance, and I definitely disagree with taking one of the jobs that are listed. I retook it three times with same results though.
    @ Hudifah, I tend to digest it like this, all descriptions aside. 3w2 express their 3-ness in focusing on people, whereas 3w4 express their 3-ness in focusing more on tasks. It doesn't mean that a 3w2 isn't for example career-oriented, or that a 3w4 doesn't care about people, but a 3w2 is overall warmer, more gregarious, more likely to take care of those around them in some fashion. The 4's look more like 1's, and their ambitious nature makes them not only want to be successful, but the 4 wing makes them want to take whatever career they've chosen to new heights.

    You might also consider exploring the instinctual variants b/c i find that adds as much if not more to the discussion than the wings do.
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    I'm 3w2. The description makes me sound like an evil narcissist or something...I already get a bad enough "narcissist" rap as an ENTJ!
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    Type 1w2


    Quote Originally Posted by happyrain View Post
    I'm 3w2. The description makes me sound like an evil narcissist or something...I already get a bad enough "narcissist" rap as an ENTJ!
    Many of the 3w2 descriptions are unflattering, and therefore the views about them as well.

    Also .. as a true 3, I bet you're probably already thinking up ways to become "better" than that description ;) You wouldn't be a 3 if you weren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawz View Post
    Many of the 3w2 descriptions are unflattering, and therefore the views about them as well.

    Also .. as a true 3, I bet you're probably already thinking up ways to become "better" than that description ;) You wouldn't be a 3 if you weren't.
    ...it's scary how you guessed that.... ;)
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    Type 1w2


    Quote Originally Posted by happyrain View Post
    ...it's scary how you guessed that.... ;)
    Heh .. Takes one to know one ;)

    I'm a 3w4, but the son of a pair of 3w2 ESTJ and 3w4 or 4w3 INFJ - just figured out my dad's enneagram today.
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    Type 4


    I know a very successful, healthy 3. He is shockingly caring. The integration described on the 3w2 is him to the T. He is almost always like that, except from time to time, when he gets ticked he has the look of the disintegration described, but nothing severe. I don't see how it was an unflattering description...
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