[Enneagram Type 4] 4w5s---what are your jobs/careers?

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This is a discussion on 4w5s---what are your jobs/careers? within the Type 4 Forum - The Individualist forums, part of the Heart Triad - Types 2,3,4 category; currently trying to figure out what path to take in life, and i'd really appreciate some insight! what do you ...

  1. #1
    Type 4w5

    4w5s---what are your jobs/careers?

    currently trying to figure out what path to take in life, and i'd really appreciate some insight!

    what do you do for a living? do you enjoy what you do? do you wish you'd have chosen something else?

    also, please indicate your MBTI type if possible



  2. #2
    Type 4w5

    I am an INFP, 4w5.

    I am an instructor in Religious Studies at a university. I certainly enjoy what I do, although I have to study further to get a long-term job. I enjoy understanding things at their essence and conveying them to students. How does a particular religion or philosophy understand the purpose of life? Or how would particular thinkers, philosophers of ancient times respond to current trends in society and politics? It is immensely interesting to reflect on these questions. I also love learning from what the students have to say, especially if what they say arises from their authentic selves rather than from merely theoretical games.

    I often wish I had chosen another subject to specialise in which was more lucrative, career-wise, such as philosophy. Also, I wish I had trained as a psychotherapist rather than an academic because despite my efforts, I often feel that I am not really affecting people's lives deeply by teaching. Many students are there only for a degree rather than to really learn. But then, I also know from my psychotherapist friends that often clients only want immediate relief, not long term self-understanding and transformation, and therefore that career would also have its unfulfillments.

    It is becoming a bit of a cliche to tell people to do what they love and follow their dreams, so I am wary of saying that in a hollow way and having no effect. But I would say that nature expresses itself through you in particular ways, and that is your unique gift in this world. The unique gift could be as mundane as being a sweeper. Go ahead and manifest this gift, do what you can to find a life where this would be possible. But remember, it is not your own gratification or glory that matters. Pursuing those will only make you more egocentric and frustrated. There is a difference between manifesting your gift and being egocentric. They can get entangled, but they are opposites, actually.

    What I wrote above is something I myself am working with, day in and out, and not without failures.

    I think in general 4w5s do well in certain types of psychotherapy, philosophy, the academic study of art, and perhaps some ways of being an artist, although making money out of 4w5 art might not be so easy.

    Even outside these professions, I feel a 4w5 can find a fulfilling vocation if they are healthy. A large proportion of professions in modern life provoke unhealth and make it difficult for a person to find joy in what they do. I think it is extremely unlikely for a person to be truly healthy living in a world where the meaning of life is the last concern of most human beings at a conscious level, and where people are surrounded by machines, virtual reality, living away from nature, eating industrially produced food, not using their body for at least an hour a day, and consuming the dehumanising mass media we have.

    I have often thought about being a simple farmer, or a teacher in a school in the quiet countryside, or something of that kind. Just drop out of the noise, competition and angst of urban life. I haven't managed to do that yet.

    Also, if one works towards being psychologically and spiritually healthy, the answers tend to reveal themselves spontaneously.

    If you are interested, these sources on finding one's calling might be thought provoking -

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=X35Su6w45wg

    "A Figure of Speech, or a Figure of Thought?" (Part 1) - an essay by Ananda K. Coomaraswamy

    "An artist is not a particular kind of man, but every man is a particular kind of artist" - Ananda Coomaraswamy
    Last edited by iandthou84; 05-19-2015 at 11:38 PM.

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    INFP and I believe 4w5. I am a Holistic Health Practitioner/Psychic Medium/Reiki Master, spiritual healing and stuff like that. I used to be an office worker until about a month ago, when I quit it to focus on my business full time.

    I have honestly been miserable at most of my 'day jobs'. But I love doing what i do now, it is my life purpose and definitely one of the top #4 ideal careers. It is literally like heaven for a 4...to not have to roll out of bed at 6am and rush around to get to an office where you can't be bothered with the coworkers and hate bosses telling you what to do. I am my own boss, I do what I want when I want to. It's still new to me but I haven't been happier career wise.

    I think I kinda knew all along that this is what I should be doing but I was kind of in denial or didn't think I'd be able to do it, or was afraid, not sure. I always had certain abilities through my entire life but didn't really understand them, finally did some schooling in the last 2 years and pursued it as my career. Best thing I ever did.
    Last edited by faye1212; 05-23-2015 at 05:32 PM.
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    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by faye1212 View Post
    INFP and I believe 4w5. I am a Holistic Health Practitioner/Psychic Medium/Reiki Master, spiritual healing and stuff like that. I used to be an office worker until about a month ago, when I quit it to focus on my business full time.

    I have honestly been miserable at most of my 'day jobs'. But I love doing what i do now, it is my life purpose and definitely one of the top #4 ideal careers. It is literally like heaven for a 4...to not have to roll out of bed at 6am and rush around to get to an office where you can't be bothered with the coworkers and hate bosses telling you what to do. I am my own boss, I do what I want when I want to. It's still new to me but I haven't been happier career wise.

    I think I kinda knew all along that this is what I should be doing but I was kind of in denial or didn't think I'd be able to do it, or was afraid, not sure. I always had certain abilities through my entire life but didn't really understand them, finally did some schooling in the last 2 years and pursued it as my career. Best thing I ever did.

    Did you study what you practise now? I'm curious and fascinated.

    Do you feel 4's have a vocation to heal?

    I am really interested in holistic health but don't know much about the other two, and don't really have any significant 'sixth sense', for the lack of another term. I often have deja vu experiences and feel there is more to them than just brain chemistry, but am not sure what. What do you think?

  6. #5

    Quote Originally Posted by iandthou84 View Post
    Did you study what you practise now? I'm curious and fascinated.

    Do you feel 4's have a vocation to heal?

    I am really interested in holistic health but don't know much about the other two, and don't really have any significant 'sixth sense', for the lack of another term. I often have deja vu experiences and feel there is more to them than just brain chemistry, but am not sure what. What do you think?
    I did take some classes to learn how to better develop and control the psychic abilities....everyone is really born with the 'sixth sense', it just comes more naturally to some, just like anything. For Reiki you have to take classes/be attuned to practice it. The 'holistic health' title is my title in certification - some focus more on things like nutrition, herbalism, etc. - mine is focused on spiritual healing. If you feel a draw towards it, look into it. It's most likely for a reason and one of the top careers for a #4 - considering that 4's are generally so intuitive and compassionate, these abilities will come more naturally to us when we approach them.
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  7. #6
    Type 9w1

    I'm an undergrad psych student! :D

    I want to go into family/adolescent counseling, and have wanted to do that since I was 13. I'm a stereotype in that I think my drive is to have an impact on the world, through method of helping other people in hard times. From experience, I've found a lot of satisfaction making even the smallest difference in people's lives. Even if it's just a mood boost and I can't actually solve their problems (though that's something I'm gonna have to get used to not being able to do, as much as it's hard to swallow).
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    I currently work as a cashier right now, but I definitely don't plan on doing it forever. I have an undergrad English Literature degree and a master's in technical writing for pragmatic reasons, but I don't really care if I ever use it. I've just recently felt that some kind of therapy or counseling is my calling, but I don't know what kind yet. I'm an INFP.
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