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This is a discussion on Mental Illness and Health Levels (Another Thread) within the Type 4 Forum - The Individualist forums, part of the Heart Triad - Types 2,3,4 category; I have suffered from clinical depression on and off ever since my teenage years, with the worst bouts having been ...

  1. #11
    Type 4w3

    I have suffered from clinical depression on and off ever since my teenage years, with the worst bouts having been in the past couple of years. Currently I'm alright-- not completely out of it but not dealing with the brunt of it either. I do also have occasional anxiety issues that had never surfaced until recently, but I think that's more circumstantial than anything else.

    My health levels obviously fluctuate according to whether or not I am depressed. When I'm in a good state of mind, I'm actually generally a pretty healthy four. But that can plummet very easily. It also plummets when I'm really stressed out or dealing with a lot of difficult things.
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  2. #12

    Been diagnosed as bipolar II, depression, add, anxiety, but I am learning that the more I just let myself be me and act crazy when I need to, it helps. Also 4s...or anyone really...don't bother up emotions! I am feeling pretty healthy right now, but that could change quickly.

  3. #13
    Type 4

    I have Borderline Personality Disorder, but generally, that's a pretty uncommon mental illness. Well I'm not even sure if it's uncommon, or still just really really really unknown and still being introduced in a way of sorts, but the description fits me to a T. I've also been diagnosed with Major Depression, but that was before Borderline which is often misdiagnosed as Major Depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvi View Post
    I have Borderline Personality Disorder, but generally, that's a pretty uncommon mental illness. Well I'm not even sure if it's uncommon, or still just really really really unknown and still being introduced in a way of sorts, but the description fits me to a T. I've also been diagnosed with Major Depression, but that was before Borderline which is often misdiagnosed as Major Depression.
    Same here, I haven't been diagnosed yet and I really don't plan to but there's a really high probablilty that I have it, sadly. I did a lot of research on the argument and found out that I share a lot of unhealthy behaviours with BPDers, the only real exception I think it's self harming. I'd rather stay in my own dreadful and painful world and bleed inside rather than harming my own body. Last year I even suffered from depression, it was terrible.
    Thankfully I'm a little bit healthier now than last year. Last year I was at level 8/9, I think... now I guess I fluctuate between 5 and 7.
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  6. #15
    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by unico View Post
    I was just wondering how many of you 4's out there have some kind of mental illness and how you figure that plays into the health levels associated with 4. I have severe Bipolar I with anxiety and when it's under control I'm a very healthy 4, but if it's out of control I can descend into level 9 overnight. I have some confusion as part of my bipolar when it's acting up, which also contributes to me making poor choices. I feel kind of hypocritical saying I'm usually a "healthy 4" when I sometimes do descend back into the low levels due to my bipolar. Fortunately once my meds are adjusted properly I'm back to being pretty healthy. I also find therapy pretty helpful.
    Mental illness is notoriously under reported, and a lot of people who need help do not seek it, so kudos to you for being brave enough to get and work with therapy. We had free sessions in college, which I tried, and I felt were too personally invasive. I had trouble letting in a therapist - felt misunderstood and like they were judging / not on my side. Mental illness is real, but some mental illness / depression is caused by our uniqueness and lack of submission to societal norms. Some people diagnose things as mentally ill or unstable when they are simply different. People sometimes think your unique views and differences in opinion are threatening, and try to dismiss them as mental illness. Sorry, I'm kind of off topic, but Albert Camus (who I think was a 4) described this sort of otherness...
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  7. #16
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by Krelian91 View Post
    Same here, I haven't been diagnosed yet and I really don't plan to but there's a really high probablilty that I have it, sadly. I did a lot of research on the argument and found out that I share a lot of unhealthy behaviours with BPDers, the only real exception I think it's self harming. I'd rather stay in my own dreadful and painful world and bleed inside rather than harming my own body. Last year I even suffered from depression, it was terrible.
    Thankfully I'm a little bit healthier now than last year. Last year I was at level 8/9, I think... now I guess I fluctuate between 5 and 7.
    If it's of any comfort, I think many sexual variants, especially Fours, could easily go to a place where they fit criteria for borderline when unhealthy.
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  8. #17
    Type 4

    Story of my life. I have Bipolar Disorder 2, ADD, Anxiety Disorder, OCD, and Addictive Personality. I actually have multiply mental and medical illnesses.
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  9. #18

    Hello! I'm new here. 4w3. The first time I remember "suicidal ideations" was age 11, but my family was going through a tough time then. It's returned now and again over the years, most often triggered by external pressures I feel incapable of managing or too tired to manage, more like. I have been diagnosed PTSD and chronically depressed, but I ignore their diagnoses because what's normal for me is not normal for most people (maybe except other Fours?) And I know I have too much love for my mom and my daughter to actually do it, and I never tell anyone in my real life how dark things have gotten inside me because it would alarm them.

    Reading threads here, I realize how common this is for us. I am frankly relieved to discover that my lifelong suspicion that this wildly fluctuating mood cycling is "normal" for my "tribe." Yay! I'm not a freak!
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