[Enneagram Type 5] Can type Fives be obsessed with Emotional Immersion?

Can type Fives be obsessed with Emotional Immersion?

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This is a discussion on Can type Fives be obsessed with Emotional Immersion? within the Type 5 Forum - The Investigator forums, part of the Head Triad - Types 5,6,7 category; So I'm pretty sure I'm a 5, but I have this obsession with emotional immersion. It's not my native state ...

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    Can type Fives be obsessed with Emotional Immersion?

    So I'm pretty sure I'm a 5, but I have this obsession with emotional immersion. It's not my native state (anymore, at least), it's more of a distant ideal, but much to my chagrin I often end up retreating and detaching whenever I have a problem. I was wondering whether or not this was consistent with 5-ness. I am infatuated with the idea of immersing myself in emotions and it is a major goal in my life (whether or not I excel at it), but I am often too scared too...like it is too overwhelming. I identify with lot of four-ish traits like an obsession with image creation and self expression and actually get it a lot (perhaps most) of the time when I test, but all the detachment I experience seems to be at odds with it. I often feel at a disconnect from the world. I don't want to. I actually really hate it. Maybe I want the best of both worlds, like I want to experience the pleasure of emotions but from a safe distance, but inevitably that ends up diluting the experience, which depresses me. Would this be typical of a 5w4? How do you guys overcome it?

    This is sort of related to another dilemma I'm sort of sorting out right now...the INTP/INFP question, but this is a separate issue and since I'm in a psychologically unhealthy state right now the emphasis the Enneagram places on self improvement and healing means it's almost more pressing, in a way.
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    This sounds very normal for a 5. I am a 5w6 myself, but the idea of experiencing emotions safely, but being too worried about being overwhelmed is classic 5 for any wing. Not to mention your affinity for retreating, detaching, and self-reflection and study are our trademarks also. I cannot answer about the INxP question, but I think your description sounds very 5w4-like. As for a solution, best of luck to you, I am still searching myself. You certainly aren't alone or unhealthy because of those desires though.

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    Never, never had that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lirulin View Post
    Never, never had that.
    The desire for emotional immersion or the troubles I am having doing so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevermore View Post
    The desire for emotional immersion or the troubles I am having doing so?
    The desire. Troubles sure, I expect I would have, if I tried to. But I don't want to so detachment is a good thing.

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    It may also have something to do with variants. Lirulin, are you SP dominant? That might explain the difference.

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    i don't know. I'm sp dominant too...

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    Yeah, I'm sp.

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    Type 5

    INFP 5w4 and I feel the same way.

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    The 4 wing can definitely add this aspect. A lot of people mistake 5s for having no emotions. It's how they deal with them that defines their emotions. As a 4w5, I find myself detaching more from emotions than 4s are supposed to. This is particularly true if other people are involved. I resist being affected. My sp instinct reinforces this, and they both combat my secondary sx instinct to connect intensely. I wind up frustrated. I start to wonder if I am even capable of passionate feeling.

    However, on my own terms, I may like to swim in an emotional atmosphere. I seek this out through art usually - music, literature, poetry, and visual arts. It feels "safer" that way, yet I get the exploration I desire. This makes me aware that I have a passionate side, but it's hard for others to inspire it.
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