[Enneagram Type 6] Helen Palmer's simple core pillars of type 6 - Description (perfect imo, must read)

Helen Palmer's simple core pillars of type 6 - Description (perfect imo, must read)

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This is a discussion on Helen Palmer's simple core pillars of type 6 - Description (perfect imo, must read) within the Type 6 Forum - The Loyalist forums, part of the Head Triad - Types 5,6,7 category; Thype 6 - The Loyal Skeptic/Questioner/Doubter/Troubleshooter “Lost” essential quality: Faith in self, others and the universe. Compensating belief: The world ...

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    Type 6w7


    Helen Palmer's simple core pillars of type 6 - Description (perfect imo, must read)

    Thype 6 - The Loyal Skeptic/Questioner/Doubter/Troubleshooter

    “Lost” essential quality: Faith in self, others and the universe.

    Compensating belief: The world is dangerous, threatening. People can’t be trusted. You must seek or defy security, avoid or face danger.

    Attention/coping strategy: Becoming vigilant, questioning or doubting. Scanning for what can go wrong. Seeking certainty either by defying security and facing danger (the counter-phobic style) or by seeking security and avoiding danger (the phobic style).

    Trap: Seeking certainty for which there is never enough proof.

    Driving energy: Fear associated with all the possible dangers or hazards.

    Avoidance: Becoming helpless and defenseless, avoided either by aligning with authority (the phobic style) or by defying it (the counter-phobic style).

    Strengths: Spotting hazards, heightened intuition, loyalty, thoughtfulness.

    Paradox: Seeking too much certainty in an uncertain world creates more uncertainty and anxiety.

    Path of development:


    Accept insecurity as part of life
    Develop inner faith in self, others and the world
    Recognize that both flight and fight are reactions to fear
    Observe fear and calm it
    Move ahead in spite of fear

    Ultimate task: Reclaiming trust in yourself, others and the world, and living comfortably with uncertainty.

    Source: http://www.enneagramworldwide.com/
    Last edited by LibertyPrime; 12-21-2012 at 10:59 PM.
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    Unknown


    I like it. Where did you get this from @Rim ?

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    Type 6

    Again, whys, but not hows.

    Thanks anyways.
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    Type 6

    Quote Originally Posted by Rim View Post

    Paradox: Seeking too much certainty in an uncertain world creates more uncertainty and anxiety.

    Ultimate task: Reclaiming trust in yourself, others and the world, and living comfortably with uncertainty.
    There is so much truth in this. It's not until things get thrown into catastrophe that I suddenly remember how much I have clung to security and well there are no certainties to that, I may have created a trap in saying that in a way, like having expectations on attachment when really I should remind myself that freak accidents do happen. But that's just a loop because thats asserting certainty once again. I don't know. I don't how to solve this dilemma.
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    Type 6w7

    I just bought Palmer's "Understanding Yourself and Others" this morning. So far I like her introduction chapters. She's describing how ego defenses (buffers) and personas (false personalities) affects everyone and we must move past them. It's actually close to what I've been saying/thinking as a typer.

    It's going to take me a while to get through the book. I might skip to the 6 chapter though
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    Type 6w7


    Quote Originally Posted by Octavarium View Post
    I like it. Where did you get this from @Rim ?
    Enneagram | The Enneagram Test | Enneagram Worldwide

    Imo it is one of the best sites on the enneagram so far. The instinctual descriptions here are really awesome as well. I recommend checking it out.

    Example:


    Type 6: Strength/beauty(one to one/sexual)

    Having power and influence in the one-to-one domain with significant others counteracts your fear. It is safer to manifest power and influence with strength and beauty, appealing qualities that are less likely to create adversarial reactions than raw power moves. Instead of craving reassurance, it comes to you through strength and beauty. Knowing that you affect those close or important to you through your brilliant ideas and physical ability provides assurance. Aesthetic qualities (creating beauty in your environment) and attractiveness command allegiance from others, as do intellectual strength, including fiercely held ideological positions and physical fitness, strength and bravery. Your fear evaporates when you obtain the respect of associates or a mate. While the preoccupation with strength and beauty in one-to-one relating is more common for counter-phobics (because it is more congruent with the coping style), it is more obvious in phobics because it stands out more against a general lack in courage or self-confidence. At your worst, you can become possessed with the need to influence others, and evoke reactions by testing and challenging others.

    Quote Originally Posted by mushr00m View Post
    There is so much truth in this. It's not until things get thrown into catastrophe that I suddenly remember how much I have clung to security and well there are no certainties to that, I may have created a trap in saying that in a way, like having expectations on attachment when really I should remind myself that freak accidents do happen. But that's just a loop because thats asserting certainty once again. I don't know. I don't how to solve this dilemma.
    ^^; for me the most truth lies in this one, I think @Paradigm can confirm this:

    Trap: Seeking certainty for which there is never enough proof.
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    Unknown

    I am planning on taking Palmer's Enneagram workshops. She's one of my favourite Enneagram teachers. She speaks with confidence, has a very comprehensive knowledge of the types, and she's very no-nonsense. She's actually a cp6w5 herself, so she doesn't make the RH mistake of infusing descriptions with a phobic SJ bias. Her other descriptions are also fairly well-rounded. The Narrative tradition has intrigued me for a while.
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    Type 4w3

    I agree with most of that, especially the Trap. It's like I want an ultimate source of certain of information that is always right.

    My coping style is more like a 7's or a 9's... although I guess I do those because I'm fearful of the world, so I escape into in/activity.
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    Unknown

    @Kito I just noticed you now type as 6w7. I'll have to browse your typing thread for details;) :D
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    Type 4w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    @Kito I just noticed you now type as 6w7. I'll have to browse your typing thread for details;) :D
    Is this a common ritual for newly typed 6s?
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