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This is a discussion on Bliss Stream's Descriptions for the 9w1 Stackings within the Type 9 Forum - The Peacemaker forums, part of the Body Triad - Types 8,9,1 category; Originally Posted by changewk Nine’s Connection to Six • This connection brings Nines courage. Where healthy Sixes develop the courage ...

  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by changewk View Post
    Nine’s Connection to Six

    • This connection brings Nines courage. Where healthy Sixes develop the courage to do, Nines find the courage to be.

    • The connection can usefully shake up a Nine’s complacency. It helps Nines challenge their fears and take risks, expose the inner self that they usually disguise and efface
    • The connection to Six brings tenacity and stamina – a willingness to see things through, to work faithfully away at tasks and commitments with a committed perseverance.

    • Brings an idealism, sense of responsibility that stirs the Nine to action.
    • Realistic, more able to acknowledge what can go wrong. If Nines tend to minimize and Sixes exaggerate. unable to ignore being upset, useful self- doubt
    • Sixish Nines can have a nervous, scatterbrained quality. They can overanticipate events, start to doubt themselves and think in anxious, obsessive loops
    • Distract themselves from seeing the obvious or taking useful action.
    • Can seem agitated and frightened in a beside-the-point way
    • The Nine’s laziness about personal priorities is reinforced by the Six tendency to procrastinate. Sixes postpone taking any action, while Nines put off taking right action
    • Sixish Nines can go in nervous busy circles. thinking about a problem or a decision extra hard while getting more and more confused and obsessive
    • Can be risk-aversive, afraid of making mistakes that might provoke conflict.
    • Obedient to authority and a sense of tradition
    • Might hand over responsibility for decisions to others and then blame the others if the decisions don’t turn out well
    • Can be cowardly and may run away from conflict or be undependable under stress or duress
    • Anti-authoritarian attitudes especially with an Eight wing
    • An episodic experience of fear-a Nine could have anxiety attacks followed by months when the Nine is not conscious of feeling fear at all

    Nine’s Connection to Three

    • Brings Nines a kind of clarity of the heart
    • They can suddenly see and prioritize on their own behalf. They take decisive deliberate steps towards personal goals. brings energy, industry, action and purpose

    • This connection supports a steady persistence. Focused Nines are unstoppable
    • A stepwise strategy for taking action and completing tasks in the real world
    • This connection also helps Nines with appropriate social presentation. They are more willing to dress up and voluntarily play roles in the service of goals. They can also have a sense of propriety, be well-groomed and have good manners
    • Healthy Threeish Nines can find freedom in role playing and the connection to Three can bring acting abilities as well as a talent for mimicry
    • Distinct tendencies towards role-playing and hyperactivity as a distraction from their basic sense of non-being. A busy form of self- neglect, an active laziness
    • Threeish Nines can go false and be defined by a milieu, playing roles based on the expectations of others
    • May be vain, enjoy being mistaken for an image or indulge in episodic show-off behavior
    • Nines can be fascinated by or obsessed with Three-like falseness in others; may want to root out fraudulence in others and tear it down
    • In Threeish cultures (America) or subcultures (corporations) Nines can feel extra pressure to succeed and achieve-which they may then accommodate or sabotage
    • They may be ambitious although often they are acting out someone else’s ambition. Can be chosen to fulfill the family’s unfulfilled wished and dreams.
    • This connection supports a prince or princess-like quality and Threeish Nines can act entitled.
    • Can fluctuate between high and low self-esteem; underneath their image, a Nine may feel indefinite, insignificant and depressingly unworthy.
    EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW. MAYBE.

    The whole connection to Six part fits so well - no wonder I mistyped*. But it isn't all bad (I always took issue with the integration/disintegration theory. Why should one connection be bad and the other good? It's too black and white, it just doesn't make sense) - I could actually take this connection and really do something with it. And I could use a bit of that Three-Nine connection too (no wonder I have such a weird fascination with Threes....).

    I wonder if strong connections could constitute their own subtypes? I'm definitely more of a Sixish Nine, no question.



    *I will not say "if I mistyped at all"...even though I want to....
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  2. #62
    Type 6w7

    Quote Originally Posted by sodden View Post
    How can I relate to both the sp/sx and the sx/so description the most? How does that make sense?
    Because sp/sx integrates first to sx/soc. (Then soc/sp; then to sp/sx and beyond--at the highest level everything is available). Since it's a flow, there is no beginning and end where you stop being one stack and suddenly become the other. Although it seems you've changed your typing to 4w5, but as a 9 that would be the answer. Bear in mind that sx-first is the Fourish instinctual variant. And very Fourish it is indeed.

  3. #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Roshan View Post
    Because sp/sx integrates first to sx/soc. (Then soc/sp; then to sp/sx and beyond--at the highest level everything is available). Since it's a flow, there is no beginning and end where you stop being one stack and suddenly become the other. Although it seems you've changed your typing to 4w5, but as a 9 that would be the answer. Bear in mind that sx-first is the Fourish instinctual variant.And very Fourish it is indeed.
    ...variants integrate? And disintegrate, I assume? This is new to me.

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  5. #64
    Type 6w7

    Yes, they do. They move like the points do in core dynamics, e.g. 5<-7->1 along the line of 5-7-1-4-2-8. It only makes sense. How could the points be in flux and the variants be static? Then there would only be possibility for growth in the one arena, and if the other didn't grow with it, how could growth in the other be possible?

    I don't have time to do it now but I will give you some links and more explanation soon.
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  6. #65
    Type 5w4


    Quote Originally Posted by Roshan View Post
    Because sp/sx integrates first to sx/soc. (Then soc/sp; then to sp/sx and beyond--at the highest level everything is available). Since it's a flow, there is no beginning and end where you stop being one stack and suddenly become the other. Although it seems you've changed your typing to 4w5, but as a 9 that would be the answer. Bear in mind that sx-first is the Fourish instinctual variant. And very Fourish it is indeed.
    oh hey, what you quoted was really old (3+ years). The meds I was on at the time weren't working right and I was in a weird space. How I type myself now is correct. Just responding because I noticed you posted but there is no need to respond to this-

  7. #66
    Type 9w1

    Does anybody have any tips on finding out your stacking, because I've thought maybe I was every single one of them at different times and I've read pretty much everything I've seen on this forum. If there's some kind of method that would be helpful. I've never had this trouble typing myself with other things. Maybe I should leave it be.

  8. #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustler View Post
    Does anybody have any tips on finding out your stacking, because I've thought maybe I was every single one of them at different times and I've read pretty much everything I've seen on this forum. If there's some kind of method that would be helpful. I've never had this trouble typing myself with other things. Maybe I should leave it be.
    I almost suspect it really DOES change throughout your life, depending on your needs at the time. When I was a lonely kid and a lovestruck youth, I fit the sx9 description perfectly. But though I go through bouts of loneliness and feeling misunderstood nowadays, primarily I'm not as concerned with finding someone who loves me because I've got a husband and two kids who can all be quite clingy and needy, and I've backed away from my initial desire to merge for fear of suffocating in other people's needs. So nowadays I show way more tendency toward SP than I used to. (SO's pretty much stayed steady through the years).

    Personally I DON'T think it's very important to know definitively. More important to know how the instincts are affecting your life at the moment.

  9. #68

    How do you find your instinctual variant?

  10. #69

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy View Post
    so/sx 9w1

    They want to contribute something new and passionate to society, but feel like too much of a social nonentity to do it. They may view themselves as 4ish due to issues around uniqueness, but these issues only arise because of how aware they are that others possess a sense of self, which only reinforces the 9's sense of nothingness....Since they know they lack a strong self, they lack hope about contributing something original. They resolve the quagmire either by spinning their wheels with fruitless and endless self-examination hoping to discover something deep about themselves or by conforming to various personalities and completely checking out. They are dispassionate in general but can seem more passionate, sad, or lively because they comply to a Oneish social instinct in the back of their head telling them how they should react and what's appropriate. They know underneath how internally unaffected they are. They are taken back by the possibilities of things they could imagine happening without stirring a real reaction in them and find it disturbing to think about how they could merge into anything... They can seem 7-like in their draw to books, people, beliefs, and adventures, but they are drawn to these outlets in hopes of receiving a sense of perspective and self. They have a nose for unconscious structures and may create a new language around patterns, themes, or archetypes in myths, traditions, history, and groups. They are easy to mistype because they can seem to run fully on the 'software" or agendas of different types. They may search for approval and validation like a 3, but reject the approval once they get it as if wondering why they would be worthy of admiration or attention in the first place. It's the 'agenda' 'software' itself they are addicted to, not the result.
    Sounds like I can look forward to a life going round in circles...

  11. #70

    Quote Originally Posted by pearslug View Post
    Sounds like I can look forward to a life going round in circles...
    Sorry for quoting myself, but since I posted this I thought about it a bit more and I seriously cannot believe how accurate Ive now realised the so/sx description is, I mean it seriously is like a massive proportion of my life in words basically... Its so frustrating because i can see i have been in this self examination loop for like 4 years... I keep looking for things to fulfil my life but i don't trust them enough/cant commit to them enough to make them have good impact.
    Like the bit where it says about how they find it disturbing that they could merge into anything, this is like a block from me feeling happier, because i can't do anything to help myself because it could mean i change and I'm afraid of what i would be after. I think i am too attached to my current self, so am afraid to become the best version of myself because i would lose the me that I know. But at the same time the self examination is just distracting me from the nothingness. Maybe thats why i cant commit to a path/meaning, because once i have committed, i am no longer in self examination and have to face the nothingness? But i think what i keep failing to realise is that maybe the nothingness is the path to happiness.

    Now i realise writing that was self examination again fuck......

    sorry for ramble


     
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