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    Question for Gamers

    For people who consider themselves gamers: What do you think about the idea that "gamer" is an identity based on unnecessary consumption (in contrast to consumption of necessary things like food, clothing, shelter)? Do you think that description is accurate? Useful? Etc.



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    I don't care to identify as a gamer, but I do play games.
    It's a hobby like any other, and they all are about "unnecessary" consumption, if you choose to look at necessity from a survival point of view. But I think hobbies and entertainment are important and necessary for our well-being, just less than food and security.

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    Gamers play games as a main hobby because we like games, that's all there is to it. Entertainment is very necessary. Without entertainment we'd all be lethargic and depressed.
    If we followed this line of reasoning to its conclusion we'd all be sat around eating bread and water and staring at walls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello Clitty View Post
    For people who consider themselves gamers: What do you think about the idea that "gamer" is an identity based on unnecessary consumption (in contrast to consumption of necessary things like food, clothing, shelter)? Do you think that description is accurate? Useful? Etc.
    I'm not exactly a gamer, but I occasionally play them.

    At least from how gaming is portrayed by Youtubers like LTT and others, they certainly contribute to making gaming looks unhealthy. I personally haven't seen a lot of gamers, but from those I have seen, there were 2 types of them. Those, who in their early life got interested in gaming a bit, got some gear like computer or console played for a while and then dropped out of it for pretty much forever. Another group started out the same, but left playing games. There's pretty much nothing usual in between those two. Anyway, there are some people, who are on next level and while aren't addicted, they have very strong interest in gaming and do game a lot and most likely 2-3 games only.

    To answer your question, gaming by itself cannot be identified as unnecessary consumption, but well obviously to play games you need hardware and software. Those people, who value gaming could never agree on you calling it "unnecessary consumption", but only those who see no value in it may agree with you. Still, no matter what you just can't belittle it to such level as it is a form of enterntainment and all of us need some entertainment in our lives. Be it gaming, watching movies/anime, listening music, reading books/comics. There are pros and cons, but it's just like eating meat of bread. You can chose what to eat, but you still gonna eat something. Same with entertainment (gaming included).

    So your description is inaccurate, offensive to certain groups and as result not useful. Aside that, gamer title shouldn't carry any identity with itself as what gamer means is very different to some people. Yet if you want to have some identities, then the closest thing would be gaming addict. Then there are similar patters in behaviour. At best you can try to make identities of gamers, when you know specific people and only by what they are playing, but that wouldn't apply to other people.

    BTW gaming stuff companies like software developers, gaming gear makers and etc. they often market their stuff to appeal to masses and gamer defined by them most likely is unrealistic. They only have to have essential knowledge of their userbase and push their products.

    And if we touch topic of e-sports, then I would say that some people can make a career doing that, but I don't really think it will last a long time as profession requires a really not the best lifestyle you could have. Sure, they probably go to gym and stuff, but still being in constant stress and sitting near PC for long durations just can't be very healthy. On top of that it doesn't looks like they actually make stable income, only if they win something, but here i don't know much about that. Just to stay withing your question, those people don't identify as gamers as they tried to enter Olympics and they consider it being more like sport than gaming. So, this is beyond what you asked in your question.
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    Who determines if gaming is unnecessary consumption? I don't need to play games to survive but playing them gives me fulfillment and joy, which are necessary for the quality of my life, if not the quantity of it. Games as a medium allow for the unique expression of other people, musicians, designers, coders, artists, etc. They provide employment for small teams of people to entire companies. Their associated merchandise also provides income for a significant number of people. They create an outlet for connection and creativity (fanbase, conventions, cosplay) among multiple people. Animals play games, and while ours may be more advanced they still serve as tools we can use to learn more about ourselves and others. It also enables social, playful behavior with other people, and competition. There is nothing unnecessary about that.
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    I game around 8-10 hours most weeks, and consider it more of a hobby than an "unnecessary consumption". To me it's no different than reading, watching TV, or going on a walk, I just consider it one of many things I do to enjoy my freetime. As long as an activity doesn't interefere with your responsibilities, taking care of yourself, or other regular activities, I'm hesitant to call it "unnecessary".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TricoFeathers View Post
    Who determines if gaming is unnecessary consumption?
    Well the question I asked is directed towards people who have adopted "gamer" as an identity, not just anyone who plays video games. Since identities typically pertain to a personal trait or something that a person does (rather than something that a person consumes), identities like "gamer" stand out.
    Animals play games
    I'm assuming you're referring to non-human animals. Yes they play games but they don't consume to play games. They don't buy consoles and controllers and expansion packs to play. So I don't see it as relevant to the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pizzafari View Post
    Gamers play games as a main hobby because we like games, that's all there is to it. Entertainment is very necessary. Without entertainment we'd all be lethargic and depressed. If we followed this line of reasoning to its conclusion we'd all be sat around eating bread and water and staring at walls.
    Well, you created that line of reasoning yourself. I never said or implied that entertainment is unnecessary. It's buying stuff for entertainment that's unnecessary.

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    Everything that happens is a necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello Clitty View Post
    Well, you created that line of reasoning yourself. I never said or implied that entertainment is unnecessary. It's buying stuff for entertainment that's unnecessary.
    What kind of hobbies do you have that you don't have to buy anything then? Singing and dancing? Barefoot running?

    As a 'gamer' I can torrent almost any game and only pay for my gear which is also used for other things, so being a gamer doesn't mean I have to spend a lot of money. But I like supporting small developers, or buy bigger games when they become cheaper. It's still work and creativity that people produce and I'm generally in favor of that.
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