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This is a discussion on GUIDE: Narrowing down your Enneagram type using triads within the What's my Enneagram type? forums, part of the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum category; Originally Posted by timeless I considered that, but I eventually decided against it because I wanted this to be an ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by timeless View Post
    I considered that, but I eventually decided against it because I wanted this to be an alternate yet fresh way to look for an enneagram type. Most people already consider the head/heart/gut triads in self-typing.
    Hmm. From my experience, newbies in the topic completely bypass trying to understand the triads. Even if you know that Type 9 is a gut fix, they have no idea what that means. They have a big gut? That's why I recently posted an article about it. I would actually disagree and say that it slips most people's minds. It also might help people who are on the border of two types. For example, they are deciding between 4 and 5 and they can't decide whether they are more reactive or value competence. The heart/head triad distinction can provide more help. For completeness sake, I'd at least include a mention of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiktin View Post
    Type 9: When serious problems arise, you tend to withdraw into your head to find inner peace. Conflict wears on you.
    To me, 8 sounds like 1, 9 sounds like 5. yes/no/maybe ?
    Quote Originally Posted by timeless View Post
    One contrast between Nine and Five is that nines are much less friendly to direct conflict. Fives, when they're well-prepared and knowledgeable, enter the growth state of eight and can become very aggressive, assertive and direct.
    I also think Jiktin has a very good point about the 9 description. I should know, being a 9 surrounded by 5s all day in the ISTJ forum. An interesting and clear distinction I've found is that the term "withdrawing into your head" doesn't resonate with 9s. 9s are in the withdrawn triad, but we don't necessarily withdraw "into our heads". If at all possible, we withdraw physically and if we can't withdraw physically, we numb ourselves to the situation. It doesn't mean our minds are working when we withdraw, as the statement implies. We just kinda sit there thinking, "Stop, stop, stop." Also, 9s, being the center of the gut triad, are oriented both inside and outside. We want inner peace and outer peace. Going inside our minds isn't going to stop the outer conflict; we need to retreat physically and/or ignore it.

    On the other hand, 5s very much relate to "withdrawing into the mind".

    This makes a lot of sense, actually! *lightbulb moment* 4s, 5s, and 9s are in the withdrawn triad. Perhaps when 4s withdraw, they withdraw into their emotions, into their HEART. When 5s withdraw, they withdraw into their mind, into their HEAD. And when 9s withdraw, they withdraw into their body, into their GUT.

    I need to make a thread on this! :D
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    I really like this! Finally something that's helped me narrow down which type I am :D

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    I really like this! Finally something that's helped me narrow down which type I am :D

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    Is there a simplified explanation of Enneagram anywhere?
    This thread makes it relatively easy to narrow myself down to a 4/5/9 but what's this letter and other number business.

    Maybe it is in a thread here somewhere but there's that many stickied threads. I did follow a link once on goodness knows what thread that led to the equilateral triangle and hexagon in a circle thing explanation but there didn't seem to be much immediate explanatory notes there. At this point I only want the quick overview not the thorough understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senexx View Post
    Is there a simplified explanation of Enneagram anywhere?
    This thread makes it relatively easy to narrow myself down to a 4/5/9 but what's this letter and other number business.

    Maybe it is in a thread here somewhere but there's that many stickied threads. I did follow a link once on goodness knows what thread that led to the equilateral triangle and hexagon in a circle thing explanation but there didn't seem to be much immediate explanatory notes there. At this point I only want the quick overview not the thorough understanding.
    The letters you're talking about are probably instinctual variants.
    The diagram you saw was likely the visual depiction of the Enneagram, which shows arrows pointing to how all the types connect to one another -- each type has a line of integration (a type they gain characteristics of when they become more mature and healthy) and a line of disintegration (a type they gain characteristics of when they become less mature and unhealthier).

    For example, the line of integration for a type 6 is towards 9, because as they get healthier, their anxiety begins to fade and they become more calm, supportive, and at ease. The line of disintegration for a type 6 is towards type 3, because as they become less healthy, they become arrogant, cocky, and competitive.
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    I think I am either a 5 or a 9.

    Can I be both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senexx View Post
    Is there a simplified explanation of Enneagram anywhere?
    This thread makes it relatively easy to narrow myself down to a 4/5/9 but what's this letter and other number business.
    That's your wing. Your wing is a consecutive number, therefore, each core type has 2 wings. With wings, each type has 2 variants or flavors. For instance, if you were a 9w1, you would be a core 9 and then have more 1ish qualities than 8ish qualities. If you were 9w8, you would be a core 9 with more 8ish qualities than 1ish qualities. There are some descriptions available for distinguishing between wings, but it's best to try to figure out your core type before delving into wings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dewymorning View Post
    I think I am either a 5 or a 9.

    Can I be both?
    No. But you could have both in your tritype.
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    When I read the descriptions I feel like I am mostly a 5, but when I take the tests they tell me I am a 2.

    Would that mean I am either 5w2 or 2w5?

    I am new to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewymorning View Post
    When I read the descriptions I feel like I am mostly a 5, but when I take the tests they tell me I am a 2.

    Would that mean I am either 5w2 or 2w5?

    I am new to this
    No, wings are only consecutive numbers. Based on what you've told me, your tritype could be 5-2-9. Your core type is either 5w4 or 5w6 if you are a 5.

    HTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBTI Enthusiast View Post
    No, wings are only consecutive numbers. Based on what you've told me, your tritype could be 5-2-9. Your core type is either 5w4 or 5w6 if you are a 5.

    HTH.
    I am really new to this, sorry.

    I now think I am a 9w1 at my core, but I think it likely 2 is part of my tri-type.
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