*Out, Out brief candle*... Trying to figure out my tritype AGAIN

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    *Out, Out brief candle*... Trying to figure out my tritype AGAIN

    Ok I am again with doubts about my tritype I know that I am a 4, with balanced wings.. But I can relate some what more to 4w5 than 4w3. Anyways, the center that gives me more doubts is the head one. In the past I was types as a 6... Specially because of the way that I react to authority. However, since I listen to lots of songs agiats authority, I believe that my past answer was more a learned behavior than the original one.

    Well, let's see how it will work now:

    What age range are you in?
    19.

    Any disorders or conditions we should know about?
    Yes: I have some mood disorders (bipolar, depression) and anxiety disorders .

    ___________

    1. What do you think your life is about? What drives you in life? This can be something like a goal or a purpose, or anything else that comes to mind.
    My life is all about facing myself, to look inward in order to search for personal value, difference and beauty.
    I have no personal goals or purposes or something, I just want to find who I truly am and be honest to myself (I can't stand to the idea of falling to a wrong image and feed it).


    2. What were you like as a kid?
    I was a very energetic kid but very, very shy. I used to withdraw from other kids and just play with people that I knew. I was mentally very quick and used to think that adults were too much complicated (*epic*). But in fact I could discover very easily when people were deceiving me, what others were feeling, and I was kinda afraid of hurting them. I was very good at school, but with time I got bored and, besides, i felt that school wasn't mentally stimulating enough to me… so I started to be more and more distracted.. I was a complete head in the moon. I was very easily depressed if the environment wasn't stimulating enough… I was sent to a therapist where a ‘infantile depression’ was diagnosed.


    3. Describe your relationship with your parents. Does anything stand out about the way you interacted?
    I don’t have an easy relationship with them. My mother was a bit abusive and too much controlling. She wants our family to be traditional and ordinary, while I am exactly the opposite - I wanted to be different and original and I am attracted to odd things and to news. I don’t feel very attached to my parents to be honest… They are so boring / and ordinary to me.


    4. What values are important to you? What do you hope to avoid doing or being?
    Values important to me: Respect, Acceptance, Being honest, Being fair, To respect my freedom and my personal space. I want to avoid being too much mainstream – that lifestyle is an offense to me , it’s so unoriginal, common, …

    5. Aside from phobias, are there any fears that characterized your childhood? Have they continued into the present day, or not, and if not, how have you dealt with them?
    I remember that I was somewhat afraid of being deprived. I was afraid to don't have what others did. Actually I felt that away for some time: deprived, low, frustrated... When I felt that, I used to withdraw to an imaginary world, and also started fantasizing and day-dreaming. I still do this, to some extent.


    6. a.) How do you see yourself?
    I see myself as shy, reserved, introverted, unstable, creative, original, different and dreamer.

    b.) How do you want others to see you?
    I want others to see me as friendly, cool, confidant, and not dramatic or frustrated. But I have to confess that I don't worry with what others may think.

    c.) What do you dislike the most in other people?
    I hate when others start controlling me to get what they want. It drives me mad. I hate when they also get intimidating and bullies, and when people start using power over others without respecting personal freedom!


    7. Which habit do you most automatically act on? Rank the following habits from most to least automatic, on a scale of 1 (most) to 3 (least).

    a.) Work for personal gain with more concern for self than for others. (1)
    b.) Strive for a sense of tranquility in yourself and the world around you. (3)
    c.) Decide what is right for the betterment of something or someone else. (2)


    8. Where does the wandering mind take you? What provokes this?
    To an idealized future. I do this when I feel that the present is not good enough to fulfill my needs.


    9.What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
    I feel my best when I out of my head xD specially if high or drunk xD (*shame on me*)
    I feel my worst when rejected, when controlled, tamed,... those things piss me off.


    10. Let's talk about emotions. Explain what might make you feel the following, how they feel to you or how you react to the emotion:
    a.) anger – I feel anger when I am deprived and when I feel that others have something that I don’t or when I am frustrated. I have a terrible temper - when I am angered I explode in the closest person and then I withdraw.
    b.) shame - I feel shame if something tries to bring me down. My reaction to shame: withdrawn.

    c.) anxiety – I feel anxious when I am uncertain about the future... When I don't know how things will take place. When I am anxious I try to entertain myself- I start to dissipate and making lots of things in the same time. In the past I used substances to kill anxiety. The hardest moment for me to face anxiety is when I am in bed trying to sleep -.-' .


    11. Describe how you respond to the following:
    a.) stress - *Breaks the closest thing*I don't handle stress very well. I withdraw from others when I am stressed. Sometimes I take impulsive decisions when stressed out... Other times I just wait to see what will happen. It depends on my mood.

    b.) negative unexpected change - *great… cancels appointment* This increases stress!!

    c.) conflict – I don’t run from it, I face it! If someone defies me I fight back and don't give up! I can be very rude and tactless during conflicts, but I will only react if someone abuses.


    12. a.) What kind of role are you naturally inclined to take in a group? Why?
    In a new group: The black sheep, the shy guy, the withdraw, the less talkative, the odd, the alien, the mysterious, the one that never talks, the weirdo/freak.

    In a familiar one: the clown, the silly, the monkey, the coolest, the supporter, the adviser, the one who people run when they have a problem, the supporter, the most talkative (can’t STFU), the player.

    b.) If put in power, how do you behave? Why?
    I wouldn’t do anything much different. I don’t use power over others, cause I think that is horrible. The same way I don't let others using power over me I won't use it on others =P.

    c.) Do you tend to struggle with others who have authority over you? Why?
    I am my own authority, right? If other think they have any kind of authority I just show how wrong they are by acting freely. If they get abusive, I fight back.


    13. What do you see or notice in others that most people don't?
    The way people desire for fame to the point of being stupid/unattractive/superficial/ignorant/dumbass/ridiculous.


    14. Comment on your relationship with trust.
    I truly hate to feel used/controlled/manipulated.. to feel like a puppet.


    15. Briefly: What religious and/or political beliefs do you have? Do you think they influenced your responses in this questionnaire?
    I am not religious and I don’t give attention to politics.


    I will make a few callings if you don't mind:
    @madhatter @Boss @OrangeAppled @Swordsman of Mana
    @Humaning @Promethea@WSidis @Chipps



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    @Phoenix_Rebirth

    To be perfectly honest with you, I don't think you're a core 4. 4w3 might be your heart fix, but it's very unlikely that it's your core. I see CP 6w7 (with a heavy 7 wing), with perhaps an 8w7 gut fix.

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    @Phoenix_Rebirth

    Sorry for that short answer, I'll try to elaborate a bit.

    But I have to confess that I don't worry with what others may think.
    This isn't very indicative of being a core 4. 4s are self-conscious, and are always somehow aware of other people's opinions, being an image type. You don't seem to display this at all. In fact, I think you're more of a head type than image oriented.

    What I mostly see is a weariness of people who try to control you. You seem to generally mistrust people, which is indicative of a core 6. Actually, many of the things you said were both cp 6 and 8 ish, I can't seem to tell them apart. Like this:

    My life is all about facing myself,
    and this:

    But in fact I could discover very easily when people were deceiving me, what others were feeling, and I was kinda afraid of hurting them.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem hyper aware of people's intentions, and whether or not they're going to deceiving you. Again, 6ish.

    and this:

    I hate when others start controlling me to get what they want. It drives me mad. I hate when they also get intimidating and bullies, and when people start using power over others without respecting personal freedom!
    Cp 6 + 8

    c.) anxiety – I feel anxious when I am uncertain about the future... When I don't know how things will take place. When I am anxious I try to entertain myself- I start to dissipate and making lots of things in the same time. In the past I used substances to kill anxiety. The hardest moment for me to face anxiety is when I am in bed trying to sleep -.-' .
    Need for security, you feel better knowing what to expect --> core 6.

    I am my own authority, right? If other think they have any kind of authority I just show how wrong they are by acting freely. If they get abusive, I fight back.
    Very cp 6 of you, rebelling against authority and whatnot. Insisting that you are your own authority.

    The 7 wing is obvious in how you try to distract yourself from the stress you feel, as well as looking to the future possibilities in order to feel better.

    I think you typed yourself as a 4 because you felt shy, withdrawn, and a loner. You focused on behaviors or your need to know more about yourself which you mentioned in your life goals, but this isn't exactly indicative of a core 4. Other types can be withdrawn and feel rejected, just like other people want to know more about themselves. It doesn't really seem a preoccupation of yours. You constantly mention other controlling you, how much you dislike it, etc.
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    @kaleidoscope

    No problem. I have also been considering core 6w7. I can fit in many traits of this type.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaleidoscope View Post
    This isn't very indicative of being a core 4. 4s are self-conscious, and are always somehow aware of other people's opinions, being an image type. You don't seem to display this at all. In fact, I think you're more of a head type than image oriented.
    Yeah that makes sense. But there is a point that I didn't explain myself well - I am don't always react that way It depends on my moods - sometimes I just don't care of others opinions and other times I would be very socially aware - and be afraid of being defective. When those things happen I get overwhelmed and I start to get over-stimulated for the negative reasons. I was very sensible of others opinions some years ago ... so to don't care about others opinions about me was a defense mechanism that I developed over time (if not my head had exploded some time ago xD).


    Quote Originally Posted by kaleidoscope View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem hyper aware of people's intentions, and whether or not they're going to deceiving you. Again, 6ish.
    Yeap I try to guess what's people true intentions


    Quote Originally Posted by kaleidoscope View Post
    Very cp 6 of you, rebelling against authority and whatnot. Insisting that you are your own authority.
    May i say make a little disagreement? xD To say that you are your own authority is more 8-ish.


    Quote Originally Posted by kaleidoscope View Post
    The 7 wing is obvious in how you try to distract yourself from the stress you feel, as well as looking to the future possibilities in order to feel better.
    Yeah. I don't see 6w5 in my at all - I act impulsively when stressed.


    Quote Originally Posted by kaleidoscope View Post
    I think you typed yourself as a 4 because you felt shy, withdrawn, and a loner. You focused on behaviors or your need to know more about yourself which you mentioned in your life goals, but this isn't exactly indicative of a core 4. Other types can be withdrawn and feel rejected, just like other people want to know more about themselves. It doesn't really seem a preoccupation of yours. You constantly mention other controlling you, how much you dislike it, etc.
    Yeap that's right. When I was introduced to the enneagram, the type that I immediately identified with was 4w5. I was feeling depressed, alienated, somewhat melancholic, withdraw from the world, different, ...In the past I related a lot to the Social instinct of 4 'shame'. However, if my core is 4, then it might be Sp/So - Sp 4s can appear Cp 6s.
    Still, I will consider 6w7. If my core is type 6, then my stacking might be or Sp/Sx or Sx/Sp.


 

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