9? 7? 4? How do you figure this stuff out?? (INFP)

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    9? 7? 4? How do you figure this stuff out?? (INFP)

    I am just getting going on this Enneagram stuff, and I'm having a really tricky time of it. Both of the free tests I've done gave me the highest scores in 4, 9, and 7. I've been reading up on each of them, and they are all only partially me. When I figured out my Myers-Briggs type (INFP), I felt a VERY strong connection to it, so I guess I am looking for that here too and not getting it. So far I know nothing about the wings or the S-stuff, and I was planning on looking that up once I determined my number.

    4
    YES: create and surround themselves with beauty, value individuality
    NO: feel like no one can understand them or love them adequately, prone to melancholy, moody

    7
    YES: scattered, curious, excitable, look forward to things, trouble finishing projects before moving onto the next, favoring activities that stimulate their minds—which in turn generate more things to do and think about, easily bored
    NO: extroverted, spontaneous, always on the go

    9
    YES: avoid conflict, go along with others' ideas to keep the peace
    NO: putting others before themselves, Basic Fear: Of loss and separation

    I feel like I am too introverted to be a 7 (although that's the one I want to be), too optimistic to be a 4, and too selfish to be a 9.

    Some more tidbits:

    I am restless and hungry for adventure in my life, but also crave comfort and stability and alone time to think and have my hobbies. I find things like cooking and chores to be so boring, and I procrastinate on them. I like thinking through problems.

    At the moment I am caught in a search for my perfect career. The one I have now is DULL! I am sick of the routines and lack of thinking involved. I'd love nothing more than for each day to bring a different challenge. At the same time, I need stability and safety in my employer, so I guess I don't want THAT much day-to-day change. But variety is definitely something that is missing in my life.

    I tend to bounce around from idea to idea in my personal time. I often start projects and don't finish them.

    I LOVE to travel to new countries. I try to visit a new place 1-2 times a year, and I love just wandering around and photographing it and learning about culture.

    I also love to stay at home, watch TV, read, go antiquing, paint, etc.

    So. Can anyone help point me to any resources that may help me figure this out? I'm having an identity crisis! Some people don't like to be labeled, but I find comfort in being able to research it and think "Wow, that's so me!"



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    Enneagram is much more complex than MBTI, but it comes with a path for self improvement. First thing you need to do is ignore stereotyping. Enneagram is based on core motivations/fear. You are looking for the subconscious driver of your behaviour patterns. If you can identify the reason you are motivated a certain way then thats not it. Your are looking for the compulsive behaviour that lies below all others. Its not easy to identify.
    You also have influences from all three sides of the enneagram, Head, heart and Gut. Plus most people have a wing, which is one of the numbers adjacent your enneagram number.
    I Quite like Timeless descriptions threads which are on each of the enneagram types pages.

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    Thanks, Shrodingers Drink! It's sounds like a lot of research (but I enjoy that). I will look for those "timeless descriptions" you mention, and will try to think about this from the perspective of motivations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shrodingers drink View Post
    Enneagram is much more complex than MBTI, but it comes with a path for self improvement. First thing you need to do is ignore stereotyping. Enneagram is based on core motivations/fear. You are looking for the subconscious driver of your behaviour patterns. If you can identify the reason you are motivated a certain way then thats not it. Your are looking for the compulsive behaviour that lies below all others. Its not easy to identify.
    You also have influences from all three sides of the enneagram, Head, heart and Gut. Plus most people have a wing, which is one of the numbers adjacent your enneagram number.
    I Quite like Timeless descriptions threads which are on each of the enneagram types pages.

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    9w1 so/sx is the easy solve.

    Fours typically know they are fours and, when they don't, never confuse themselves for nines. Just the opposite for 9w1s who routinely mistype as fours. Nines also put more weight on enneagram tests when it comes to discovering their type and/or narrowing down options. Moreover, nines are more likely than fours to score higher on type 7 in enneagram tests. 9 and 7 are both in the 2/7/9 positive reframer triad. Type four is not in any triad with type seven.

    Furthermore, you only articulated the area of fixation for type nine: merging. "YES: avoid conflict, go along with others' ideas to keep the peace" The other YESes are insignificant to the inner logic of type four or type seven. Your YES for type four has relevance to your socionics type. Your YES for type seven has relevance to your instinctual stacking, as follows:

    IEI-Fe: create and surround themselves with beauty, value individuality

    SO/SX: scattered, curious, excitable, look forward to things, trouble finishing projects before moving onto the next, favoring activities that stimulate their minds—which in turn generate more things to do and think about, easily bored

    NO: extroverted, spontaneous, always on the go

    Type Nine: avoid conflict, go along with others' ideas to keep the peace

    Remember to consult with my primer for the core gestalts of each type for information about areas of fixation. It's the best primer out there:

    https://www.personalitycafe.com/enne...type-more.html
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    Wow, I'm a bit overwhelmed! It's a bit like a foreign language at the beginning! Lol. Thanks for giving me lots to look into and for giving thought to my question! :)

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    Well if you’re a 9 you can’t decide if you’re. If you’re a 7 you like to jump out of planes. If you’re a 4 you think you’re a special snowflake with good reason or not. Unfortunately too many mommies treat their kids like baby Jesus so a lot of that around. Seriously though read up on the 9 Enne types.


     

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