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    Reviewing my tritype. Something doesn't fit.

    Okay, a while ago, I posted my confusion about my core type which I have discovered is a 6 which I am comfortable with. Iniatially I thought I was a 3 due to my wanting of success and to look outwardly presentable but individual. I have been currently typed as 6w5/4w5/9w1. I want to review this tritype because I am naturally having doubts that somewhere along the line, either a number or a wing is incorrect. I have not yet decided on variants which I am reluctant to do so until I have confirmed my tritype. As mentioned, I indentify strongly with 6 and 4 and very much 9 so basically, it could just be the wings that are causing me confusion. I'm not sure where to start about myself so am willing to answer specific questions. I can give a quick lowdown on some basic traits about myself.

    I am hypervigilent about people and am always one step ahead of any potential acts from others.
    I want to be unique yet I somehow find the need to be so different from others annoying and a bit egotistical. I am humble in my uniqueness.
    I don't like conflict but I WILL stand up for myself quite aggressively if threatened which I then feel bad about as my internal peace boat has been rocked, it unsteadies me for quite awhile.

    These were the results of quite a long test I took.
    6-51
    4-49
    5-45
    3-37
    7-35
    9-35
    1-32
    2-30
    8-30

    Its not the first time I got 5 and I relate extremely well to maintaining my privacy, I had quite intrusive parents growing up and so this has made me protective over my personal space.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mushr00m View Post
    I have not yet decided on variants which I am reluctant to do so until I have confirmed my tritype.
    Well, IIRC, original E-theory was just core type and one dominant variant. For me, that'd be simply 6 sp. Over time it developed wings, stacking, tritype... It grew. The importance of instincts is downplayed for some reason, perhaps because everyone naturally relates to all three of them. Still, I'd consider finding your stacking a little more important than your tritype, for it does tell a surprising amount of what drives you.
    EDIT: Here's some resources.
    EIDB thread on instincts
    Type Six Variant Stackings
    Type 6 Subtypes
    Tritypes and Instinctual Variants (sp, sx, so) explained.

    As mentioned, I indentify strongly with 6 and 4 and very much 9 so basically, it could just be the wings that are causing me confusion.
    It could be, yes :) But don't be closed off to new possibilities should they arise. I thought I was a 9-fixer for ages and turned out not to be! It happens to many people.

    I want to be unique yet I somehow find the need to be so different from others annoying and a bit egotistical. I am humble in my uniqueness.
    Why do you want to be unique? What's the real reason?
    Why is it annoying and egotistical?
    What do you mean by humble?

    I don't like conflict but I WILL stand up for myself quite aggressively if threatened which I then feel bad about as my internal peace boat has been rocked, it unsteadies me for quite awhile.
    What's the tipping point between letting things go and standing up for yourself?
    Do you stand up for others? When and why?
    What sort of things makes you the most angry?
    Do you feel bad about blowing up, or do you feel bad that your peace was disturbed?

    Its not the first time I got 5 and I relate extremely well to maintaining my privacy, I had quite intrusive parents growing up and so this has made me protective over my personal space.
    Considering your core type is 6w5 (which I've seen no reason to doubt from your posts), then it's natural to score high on 5 and to share traits with them. And it's natural to share traits, anyway, since we have all types within us. The difference is which motivations are more important to us, and what we focus the least on.
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    Well, IIRC, original E-theory was just core type and one dominant variant. For me, that'd be simply 6 sp. Over time it developed wings, stacking, tritype... It grew. The importance of instincts is downplayed for some reason, perhaps because everyone naturally relates to all three of them. Still, I'd consider finding your stacking a little more important than your tritype, for it does tell a surprising amount of what drives you.
    I've had a look at variants but to be honest, I got a little impatient with them as I could see a number of variations within myself and just gave up trying to pinpoint my own. Anyway, i've had another look and this why im coming up with in relation to variants. I am sure that there is strong self prservation somewhere, im terrified of breaking a bone, I catastrophise when under stress about having illnesses or if I feel a pain, I worry straight away if its cancerous but at the same time careless in my physical attempts to sort it out like going for a check up. I have all sorts of intrusive thoughts when I am out and about, like when I am cycling, I imagine myself in a freak disaster and im going to get knocked off my bike in a horrible way. I have other odd little quirks like hating anything near my eyes for fear of being poked or something, these things might seem small to an outsider but they seriously make me cringe. On the other hand, I am completely useless with keeping up with the more formal stuff like writing important letters, paying bills, I do these at my own leisurely pace BUT I am very good at writing letters of complaint! I like to see justice, people(especially large corporations) who get away with taking advantage of consumers, deceipt and all general unethical acts. I am like a bull in these circumstances and have considered whistleblowing in the past with previous companies I have know to be behaving against what is acceptable in our day and age.
    I like my home comforts, I need a certain amount of aesthetics in my home to feel content, bad use of space really depresses me, I may not even be aware all the time that its because im finding my surroundings unattractive, they have a direct effect on my mood. I'm no slave to material possessions or rather, I would not spend £5000 on a new couch because I don't want to put money into a business that will only thrive more even though a smaller business deserves more of a chance to progress.
    I wander between wanting security and taking the risk of being a free agent which leads to cycles of feeling trapped and bitter as a result.
    For the sexual variation, I have lots of strong, intense feelings about things, I have these thoughts like, 'now is the time to do something about it', I want to spur others into action, I want them to feel as strongly as I feel about something. I cut conversations off short if I think the other person isn't really that serious into taking action or I think their feelings are just impulsive.
    I pick up energy from others and as somewhere mentioned, I also use it to push people away, I don't always need to say anything, my body language and facial expressions say enough though other times I am difficult to read as some people have mentioned to me. Sometimes, I pick up on something I like about someone and just feel this overwhelming need to communicate with them, it almost feels slightly spiritual. I very much like having these moments but they can be overwhelmingly intense that I come accross a bit creepy, im quick to notice this though, being very self aware.
    Social - This is where I am super aware of relationships within groups, who is the boss, who is the taskmaster, who is the useless one, who needs extra tutoring etc. I'm also aware enough to know that I am also not always aware of other people's secret intentions, to say that would be bigging myself up too much. I think I am strong in this area, in fact I have survived by using this way of thinking, constantly weighing up people and the ability to step back and observe the situation gives me great perspective.

    The third (last or bottom) variant in the stack is what Russ calls the “blind spot”—it's like an unused muscle. One might think that it’s not important and that you can do without it. There's often a negative reaction when you see it operating actively in others.
    I just had a look at 'blind spots' and if I had to go with one it would be self preservation due to the fact I don't always deal with some situations as they arise but I am so aware of other immediate stuff. So yes, I need to improve here.
    Self-pres/sexual. While mainly phobic, their counterphobic nature shows in their sense of fun. They are drawn to intensity, and are likely to overcome fear in order to engage in adventures.(This is especially true with the Seven wing.)
    This is interesting, I don't know any other way to describe it but I am usually in the background a lot of the time but I just have this urge when around people I know well and am good friends with, I just completely let my guard down and express my morbid, dark sense of humour because no-one else could possibly understand my retarded sense of humour, lol:) So when im with trusted friends, I can go quite far with the dead baby jokes.
    Social/self-pres

    This type appears One-like also, but for different reasons. This time, the social instinct combines with the self-pres to give this subtype a strong desire to know where they fit within the group, with whom they can make strong alliances. Conversely, they can counterphobically oppose groups. They are usually political in some form. Adhering to rules is seen as very important to this type. They have issues with authority, such as distrusting reactively or trusting too vehemently. This is the result of their lack of a close connection to people (a function of the undeveloped sexual instinct). Their allegiance is not to individuals but to a group of like-minded others. This subtype could possibly find themselves in jobs such as with the police of firefighting force, and in such professions where it is possible to identify with a group which has clearly defined rules and purposes. On the up side, these are people with a strong moral compass; they can be counted on to do the right thing. They do volunteer work. They become politicians. They are generally solid people. On the down side, their "us against them" thinking can turn into bigotry, paranoia, and "playing the martyr."

    In relationships, they can appear almost Two-like sometimes. Their need for people in their lives, coupled with the sexual instinct being last, causes them to worry about the close bonds they have with others and can also cause them to "go towards" while at the same time requiring validation about the strength of the bond. On the down side, they can become very critical of others when they fear their differences.
    Their need to find security within the group is threatened when others don’t do things the way they do or think the way they think. This occurs mostly when this subtype is unhealthy. When they are healthier, the differences between themselves and others are not bothersome and may even be seen as reassuring.
    This rings the most true for me. I am highly interested in politics. I have also attended humanist meetings, done some stuff with Amnesty Int. I feel threatened by group behaviour and yet it is hugely beneficial to be part of a group when you are fighting say the government as you have more power in numbers. I have a hard time trying to establish myself in an already established group, it is humiliating not being welcomed in a group, I hate that sort of pact mentality and thats what keeps me away from joining established groups, even if their intentions are good, I still feel threatened because they have already formed bonds, I get quite resentful by the structure a group imposes, for me to join a group, it must be organised with proper contingency plan minus the anal retentivness and the ego of the people who run it. This is a really strong subject for me and is a constant thing that comes up in my life. I have been given a warning by a previous employer because I spoke my mind about certain things I said to my immediate manager, I didn't go about it in the best way but I think I made some valid points. Adhering to rules is also interesting.
    Social/Sexual
    This type can be very different from the other social type, because with this type, security comes from making alliances with individuals. Their weakness comes from their self-pres instinct being last, so they are not as independent as the self-pres/soc. They rely on key people in their lives when doubt sets in(sometimes but not always). Their security comes from maintaining close bonds. (true, my parner or a close friend helps with this)They fear rejection much more then the soc/self-pres. This softens the strong stances seen in the soc/self-pres, because the soc/sex doesn’t find its security in organizations and government. They go through life looking for the people they think will be able to direct them. On the down side, they can make individuals into their authority figures and rely too much on them(sometimes too, but I lose myself if I rely too much on others). They are a lighter Six. They go with the flow more than the other subtypes. They are likely to use humor to charm people, but on the down side may whine and complain about their circumstances to garner support. When healthier, their charm, enthusiasm and curiosity are infectious. They are very loyal friends, although that can be said more or less about all reasonably healthy Sixes. But with the self-pres/soc and the soc/sex nothing much more then your support is required, for maintaining their friendship.
    Sexual/Self-pres
    Female Sixes are likely to emphasize their looks in order to be attractive. Security comes from knowing they are desirable. They can be very possessive of their mates. This can turn to extreme jealousy. On the down side, paranoia about the relationship can set in. The sexual/self-pres Six can appear Three-like, because of their need for validation and competitiveness.
    This is quite true. I need my SO to tell me that I am desireable and attractive, thing is I don't always trust in their judgement. But, if they don't compliment me, I start getting insecure. I'm not the clingy, overly needy type though, I just get paranoid and slightly deluded on occasion.
    Why do you want to be unique? What's the real reason?
    Why is it annoying and egotistical?
    What do you mean by humble?
    My being unique is the essence of my being. It's just this strong reaction I feel inside when being part of something with no outstanding meaning, being part of something common is something really quite alien to me, I just don't relate to it on a basic level, I would probably want to end my life if all my life amounted to would be living with 2 kids, in a middle class suberb somewhere working in a 9-5 job. That just isn't me. I want to make the most of got in this world and to stand out in some significant way, to be recognised for something. Even when I get older, im pretty sure I don't think I will be follwing the status quo to a T.
    There is nothing more annoying though than someone who thinks they are so darn special, I live quite an existential philosophy in that we are no more important than anyone else, I think human beings in general love themselves too much and therefore find this kind of, 'im so unique and special' thinking a bit overrated. You won't normally catch me gloating about myself, I kind of class myself to the same level as an animal or a plant because we are all sharing the earth together and should therefore respect each other. This ties into my belief of following the laws of nature, this is the closest I am to being part of some form of rules/hierarchy because it based on something that is simply fact. We cannot argue with nature, we must therefore respect it. I am humble by nature, I try not to personalise conversations too much, I like to keep the conversation neutral, not too much power from either side. I avoid using words like, 'I' as this comes accross a bit self centred, I don't find this trait particularly attractive in myself or others.
    What's the tipping point between letting things go and standing up for yourself?
    Do you stand up for others? When and why?
    What sort of things makes you the most angry?
    Do you feel bad about blowing up, or do you feel bad that your peace was disturbed?
    I would say that tipping point comes when the person has treated me badly as I am very aware that people treat me with some sort of respect.
    Yes, I have stood up for others, sometimes at the expense of making myself look an idiot. But, I do not do others dirty work for them, I also know that always fighting people's fights for them does not always help the situation for them, I care enough about them that I want them to learn their own life lessons. And of course, I don't always have the energy reserve to fight other people's battles. But, a fair few times, I have had no qualms in defending the underdog. Some people don't have a voice.
    The sorts of things that make me angry, being treated unfairly, not being recognised for my hard work, others not putting in their fair share, people that tell others things I told them in confidence, 2facedness, deceipt, exploitation, elitism.
    I really hate blowing up but I have had to on only a few occasions and its usually only in front of my partner. I rarely completely blow my fuse in front of people I hardly know or even friends for that matter. Yeah, I hate blowing up, it leaves me feeling raw.

    I hope some of my answers helped a bit.

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    Variant: My initial guess is you're soc-first, but I'm not sure if you're so/sx or so/sp. If you see yourself in so/sp, like it seems you do, then that's probably the one you are. Another thing you could do is read how other types experience the stackings and if you can relate to one consistantly, then that's a good bet, too.

    Heart fix: Well, most of your heart fix stuff was what most any 6 would say, IMO. xD I'm curious, how do you define being unique? What sort of stuff do you want to be recognized for?

    Gut fix: I think you should explore 9w8. You said a few things to make me think you've that 8ish flavoring... Though I don't think a straight-up 8 fix would fit. What made you 'choose' 9w1, is there anything that stuck out to you?
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    I am still unsure whether to go for soc first, do things like social anxiety/shyness make a difference, being very self concious would relate to sp I would have thought? And I am still undecided about whether I am sx or sp second, its like some parts of the sp are very prominant for me like wanting my immediate physical needs established and for sx, needing to break certain barriers with individual people, wanting to experience chemistry with very few people but in concentrated amounts but I kind of have to feel the person out to get a sense they are a trustable person and won't reject me. Still I don't know. Do I take the part the I have the most trouble with and decide that is not my second variation, just trying to work a way of figuring this out.

    Heart fix: Well, most of your heart fix stuff was what most any 6 would say, IMO. xD I'm curious, how do you define being unique? What sort of stuff do you want to be recognized for?
    Its quite hard to define what unique means in definite words. I grew up with very unusual parents, I had an unusual background, im not sure if this is why I like to be unique. Its just that being conventional is something I don't feel comfortable with in many areas in my life. I don't want to live the same life as some people I have known to have lived very mundane lives. I'm scared that when I reach my old age, I will have done nothing that makes me stand out, nothing that people will remember me by - thats it, I just want to be remembered after I leave this world, I want my work to inspire others, I used to want to be an inspirational artist, that people look at me and think, 'I really admire her work, I derive a lot of my own ideas from her work'. I want to create a new movement, one that brings people together over one common goal or feeling. I imagine myself to be the DJ in the nightclub that doesn't say a lot but is damn talented at what they do, I imagine myself lurking in the shadows, not apparant but my unique insights and talents speak for themselves. The undercover artist. Not adoring all the attention they recieve in the spotlight, thats not quite want I want. I think of someone like Thom Yorke who does all this amazing stuff for Friends of the Earth, he is also frontman of radiohead and is completely humble and quiet about the charity work he does, I aspire to somebody like this. And of course, my actual work has to be of a very individual/acquired nature, this is important. I like to compare my work to that of others, to check where I am starting to follow the herd a bit too much. Id also like to be recognised for my way of thinking, my ideas, the fact that I am genuine, not fake, that I give good advice and im generally a nice person.

    Gut fix: I think you should explore 9w8. You said a few things to make me think you've that 8ish flavoring... Though I don't think a straight-up 8 fix would fit. What made you 'choose' 9w1, is there anything that stuck out to you?
    I almost fell off my chair when I read the 9w8 description.
    Highly integrated 9/8 carries both the goodness and generosity of two and the deep self-actualization of three, without any trace of pride or vanity. People feel positively uplifted in the presence of such completely humble, giving, magnificent, fully self-created beings. Somehow just being in the presence of such a person can generate tremendous confidence and healthy self-regard. It is not what they do, it's how they are. They simply are Ń without trying to be anything in particular. The utter naturalness is astounding.
    This is very much what I have been explaining only I did not want anything to do with the angry parts of 8. I really hate expressing anger and yet find myself raising my voice a pitch or 2 to get through to something. I do have moments where I have to get away from a situation completely so I can go completely enraged by myself, I used to have these moments when I was a kid, I did throw the odd tantrum and now when I get frustrated to the point I have to just let it all out, but its quite often aimed at my self and to a lesser extent to others. Having said that, I have been known to completely lose it, say one time when I got wolfwhistled at down the street, I took it really badly, it took a couple of minutes for me to get really angry and I decided to run after him and confront him about it down the middle of a street. This is not to say I am usually like this but this person hit a nerve and I just saw white, I felt this person had well and truly crossed my boundaries and so I took it to another extreme. I am always ashamed of losing it so I just bite my tongue a lot and other times I can be brutally honest and then other times a mixture, its a bit of a mixed bag really.
    In the worst cases, the tendency to escape by going to sleep leads to total avoidance of any kind of real interaction. Bills go unpaid, the phone rings without being answered, and the lawn goes unmowed. Somnolence leads 9/8 deeper and deeper into self-negation, resulting in a paranoid sort of comatose sloth. No one is home in the body, and the body is powered down. Can there be any life at all in such a dead state?
    I have fell in this spell many, many times.

    With regards to 9w1, I first came out in a test with 9w1, I straight away related to the 9 and maybe I was naive but just knew that I shared no qualities of the 8 as I considered it to be an aggressive type. The perfectionist streak suited me more, the high perfectionism in myself and others when it comes to things like setting an example by your actions. Being self controlled and looking dignified is another. Most of the 9w8 description fits me and so does some of the 9w1. So as it seems 9w8 seems to ring many bells, im still hesitant to pin myself to this type because I still do not consider myself to be an angry kind of person, I certainly don't like being angry, anger in others is scary but I also cannot allow myself to walked over.
    I can see me leaning towards certain directions but as for variations, im still pretty confused here. I couldn't really find any decent, lengthy material on specific stackings, the descriptions are still rather brief and almost seem to deal in absolutes.
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    Well, I'm going to suggest 3w4 for your heart fix. I was trying to figure out if you were 4w3 or 3w4, but it sounds like you put much more emphasis on being recognized and valued for your work than a 4w3 would. A 3w4 finds achievement through being unique, which sounds an awful lot like what you were describing.
    (Type Four-Type Three Misidentification)

    As for 9w8, you have to remember that they're still a 9. They hate anger and conflict and all those things, but they can become very strong like an 8. One of the main differences was what I asked: a 9w1 will be more upset with themselves when they get angry, but the 9w8 will be more upset that others made them angry. They're often described as a sleeping dragon.

    Almost everyone relates to both wings of their types. I'd actually be surprised if you didn't. But there's (most) always a heavier wing.

    Here's where the 9w8 variants can be found.
    (Typewatch descriptions of types
    Typewatch descriptions of instincts)

    I'll have to think more on your stacking, sorry. Might have some more questions later.
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    Thanks for your input. And that is one of the confusions I have been having, whether I am 3 or 4 heart fix and if I am which wing, I looked through the descriptions of the 3w4 and there was a few things that I just thought straight away, 'no, thats not like me at all', for instance, I cannot relate to this at all on behalf of 3w4's;

    People ofthis subtype tend to be more pretentious than the other subtype, putting great stock in their ideas and demanding that others do likewise.
    Absolutely not!
    I know these kinds of people and set out to point out their fake personas, I can't stand pretentiousness even with people close to me. I like things to be a true representation of themselves.

    But this is dead on accurate:
    The are also more aloof and conscious of how others treat them.
    YES!!!

    If these sorts of things were not tied to 3w4's, I would have no difficulties in establishing myself as a 3w4 because a lot of the other parts of it match up.
    I'm going to go with 9w8 rather than 9w1, I have more reason to believe I fit the 9w8 criteria due to my sometimes feisty nature although kept under wraps as much as possible. 9w8 is actually a very good fit for me. And what you mentioned here was uncannily true...
    They're often described as a sleeping dragon.
    100% agree.

    In the meantime about stacking, take as long as you need, im still trying to work it out so hopefully something will start to become more obvious, fingers crossed. And please ask any more questions as and when you need to, im quite needing to make some improvements in my mindset, so any information will help. Cheers again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mushr00m View Post
    If these sorts of things were not tied to 3w4's, I would have no difficulties in establishing myself as a 3w4 because a lot of the other parts of it match up.
    I'm sorry if this comes out extremely harsh (or if I'm misinterpreting), but... Not enjoying how a type is protrayed isn't a good enough reason to deny you're that type.

    A few things to keep in mind:
    - Every description will have a few stereotypes. No description is perfect.
    - It's not your core type, so naturally you won't share all of their behaviors or traits. (In fact, I see you put it as your weakest fix, which I was going to suggest too ;) )
    - Typewatch tends to compare subtypes, so in this case it was 3w4 vs 3w2, not 3w4 vs 7w6 for example.

    How much do you relate to 4w3? Are there any other reasons you protest 3w4?

    ----

    Here's more reading at Ocean Moonshine, if you haven't been there yet. It's where many variant descriptions are, plus more type descriptions.

    I don't think you're sp/sx or sx/sp, at least. Been busy today, that's the most analytical thought I got on the topic right now xD

    EDIT:
    If it helps, there's also this chart. I'm automatically wary of charts... Skeptical and all, you know. Just something about condensing this stuff to a couple of words...
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    I'm sorry if this comes out extremely harsh (or if I'm misinterpreting), but... Not enjoying how a type is protrayed isn't a good enough reason to deny you're that type.
    No, no, thats not what I meant. Its not that im trying to be purposely selective, its just that I seem to get the impression(from quite a few threads) that this level of pretentiousness or exaggerating parts of their character, along those lines, that I have a strong reaction to. I underplay myself, im more interested in my unique character coming through. I'm strongly aware of it in other people and find it incredibly off putting. If anything, I like to promote how 'real' I am. I want to be a little different from the rest. So this is why I am not 100% sure about the 3w4/4w3. The idea of actually putting myself out there though and having some kind of notoriety is somehow quite appealing probably because I wasn't very popular as a kid. I do imagine performing in a cool band or something. This is very strong 3 territory for me and is where many of my dreams exist deep down on a stage or somewhere I can get noticed for my authenticity. I think this really is heading towards 3w4 isn't it?!

    I think you are right. I also don't think I have sp first, maybe second. So that would leave sx or so, im equally divided between the two so am thinking about which one I have the most difficulty in. I'm going to have a read up again on sx and so in the second variant behind sp and come back with my findings.

    Thankyou very much for all the links you have provided which have been of most help. Will be back soon.

    sx/sp
    This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.
    Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
    Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer
    Examples of sx/sp: Prince, Carl Jung, Johnny Depp, Ozzy Osbourne, Johnny Cash, Joan Crawford, Princess Di, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Frollo from "Hunchback of Notre Dame"
    This sounds like a drifter, which I am pretty much. I move from one thing to the next. I can resonate a lot with this description. And I am quite a troubled person.

    Sexual/Self-pres

    The sexual/self-pres Six is more concerned with strength, beauty and merging. With this stacking, the counterphobic energy is directed more toward individuals than towards ideas and concepts. It’s more about controlling the people closest to them. Paranoia arises when the Six feels abandoned by intimates. In the sexual/self-pres Six, doubt and anxiety is relieved by the knowledge that one's intimates really are trustworthy. These Sixes are always testing their mates for loyalty. The sexual Six is counterphobic in terms of needing to prove their desirability and strength.


    This type is identified with their respective gender roles for security. They can be competitive and appear Eight-like. Male Sixes are likely to show strength as a form of counterphobia. Female Sixes are likely to emphasize their looks in order to be attractive. Security comes from knowing they are desirable. They can be very possessive of their mates. This can turn to extreme jealousy. On the down side, paranoia about the relationship can set in. The sexual/self-pres Six can appear Three-like, because of their need for validation and competitiveness.

    On the high side, this subtype can be the most fiercely loyal to their friendships and to those loved ones who have gained their trust. The intensity of the sexual instinct brings with it a passion that is unwavering for the love and protection of their loved ones. The nature of the Six to "go towards," combined with the merging of the sexual instinct, can sometimes create an idealization of others, the ones that have passed the test of the Six. On the down side, the fear of losing the close relationship can cause this subtype to desperately lash out counterphobicaly.
    Yes, not pretty much true, not perfect but many points ring a bell like the need for validation,

    So far, I can see patterns emerging within the sx/sp and slightly lesser on sx/soc to a degree with some others like soc/sx. This is where I ended up giving up with finding out my variants. Anyway, just wanted to add some extra thoughts.
    Last edited by mushr00m; 01-12-2012 at 12:46 PM.


     

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