Please may you help with clarifying my type? (INXP, most likely INFP)

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    Please may you help with clarifying my type? (INXP, most likely INFP)

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    Whilst I am very certain of being an INP type, it is the third letter that I am slightly unsure about. But I would be an 'Unhealthy' INFP or INTP, if any of those.

    Though I am most likely an F type, I doubt this because I am not very sympathetic and I have always been socially awkward (a psychiatrist has also diagnosed me with mild asperger's syndrome, but I believe this to be a misdiagnosis, and believe there to be another problem that mimics it somehow or is very similar, it is not that I am socially clueless, but rather socially terrified). I am and have always been weak, when conflict or criticism comes along, I will move Heaven and Earth to avoid it, when I face it, my spineless back flops over and I am paralysed. This is perhaps why I feel more on the F side.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    A lot of the time I yearn for some sort of clarity. My beloved inner world is always subject to terrible earthquakes, famines, wars and other disasters. Yet, it seems as if I am apathetic to this, as if I have fled, and do not know where I am, homeless, in fact. It is of course, because of all of this, that I do not know where my interests or passions lie. Though I desire to know.

    On the outside, I am not very bothered about much. Most of it is all nonsense, jobs, money etc. But I do however desire a wife, and children (though I am not sure if I am willing to subject them to this world which is heading for rapid decline).

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    I can not remember, for I do not think I have been at my finest. When I walk however, my mind seems to walk with me, and I am full of thoughts. However, these thoughts do not seem to have anything to them, they seem to be idealistic always and float away.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    When I read a work written by a genius (even though I do not read much, for I am too troubled and lazy to read). My inferiority is always in terms of intelligence or wit.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    It is always the general feeling of something, and that is very hard to explain. It as if I can feel the ins and outs of everything, and can too be sentimental. For instance, when given a roast beef dinner, I can attribute to it certain things via feeling - does it feel old-fashioned? does it feel homely? etc. This seems to outweigh taste as in the senses, and so I do not decide on whether I like something or not because of it's mere taste, but the feeling of the taste, or it's appearance, however ridiculous that sounds.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

    I would not know, for I do not like and cannot remember when I have ever started a 'project'.

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    Cannot remember a time.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    I'm a mathematical or logical learner, it would seem. When learning at first, I can be quite slow, but as soon as I grasp the big-picture, or the underlying patterns, then I learn quite quickly. If it is of any relevance, my favoured subjects (in terms of education) are Maths, Philosophy, Theoretical Science (excluding Biology), whilst my least favoured are History, Biology, Physical Education or in that sense anything practical at all.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Not at all organized, both outer and inner, though I do desire to be organized.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    Understand the principles behind it.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    Second.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    One-on-one, of course. I do think before I speak when in groups (which is very rare), but when in one-on-one, I seem to juggle thoughts, possibilities and ideas for the very sake of it. Mostly I try to figure out all of the factors the affect certain things, such as a bus' journey, and then also how individual factors affect other ones just for the very sake of it.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?

    I'd like to know where I am jumping. Action certainly does, but not always, it is dependent on the situation. Today, when people say 'I love you' to each other, it has gotten to the stage where I do not believe it at all, for people do not realize the value of words any more, and so actions are a better thing to judge.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favourite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

    Neither of those things happen. But it has happened when I was younger that I have stubbornly wanted to stay in but after persuasion, changed my mind.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    I'm not quite sure.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Most of all, I do not like people that cannot seem to comprehend the notion of privacy. Pretentious people, I also do not like, though I have been accused of being pretentious myself, but I am confused as to why.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    Philosophy, nostalgic things.

    18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life

    I'm not sure.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

    They mostly, and even people that do not know me very well, say that I am a 'genius', 'the smartest person they've ever met', people have also stared at me in some sort of amazement, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I deny their compliments, they then begin calling me 'modest'. Which I hate again, for I do not believe that. I have also been called 'unique', 'different' etc. which I like very much and I must admit that I do hope to be called those and other things. 'Shy', 'quiet', 'within yourself', all are correct. 'In your own world', correct.

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    It is the holidays, so that perhaps applies, but I am so troubled that I do not do very much. Every day seems to repeat the last. Ideally, I would walk, think, study, read etc.
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    @benswh INFP

    Nothing of what you've written would indicate to me that you are an 'unhealthy' INFP. I don't think there are 'unhealthy' versions of types.

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    INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Apple View Post
    @benswh INFP

    Nothing of what you've written would indicate to me that you are an 'unhealthy' INFP. I don't think there are 'unhealthy' versions of types.
    Thank you.

    Now, instead of being torn between T and F, I am torn between P and J. Help, if you may?
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    @benswh Why are you torn between them? J and P is not a simple change of one letter, it changes the cognitive function stack.

    INFP = Fi Ne Si Te
    INFJ = Ni Fe Ti Se

    Fi is different to Fe, Ni is different to Ne. You use Fi Ne Si Te. When I have time I will go through your post to highlight your use of these functions. :)
    Last edited by Candy Apple; 07-15-2017 at 12:58 PM. Reason: Whoops, totally screwed the functions up.

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    A few questions: how do you perceive your surroundings? When you're taking in a location, if you take it in all that much to begin with, how is it that you take it in? How do people see you in this regard, if they've ever remarked on this? Examples of you observing things, or even people, just about anything, would be greatly useful; some form of detail would especially help.

    Another thing I could use is a description of this inner world you have: when it comes to possibilities, what exactly are you focused on? What exactly do you find yourself thinking about? I don't need private thoughts or anything of the sort, but more like a general idea for how you perceive possibilities and concepts.

    To be honest, the part that I'm confused about with you is whether you've got S or N, because everything else seems pretty much in place: you have a clear Fi-Te. As such, I'd want some more information to clarify whether you're INFP, or actually ISFP. You give off a dominant Fi vibe, and you pretty much seem like an INFP, but it'd be great to have confirmation. It's really because of it that I'm asking about how you perceive your surroundings in various fronts, since, between an INFP and an ISFP, there's a world of difference.
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    @benswh

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    Whilst I am very certain of being an INP type, it is the third letter that I am slightly unsure about. But I would be an 'Unhealthy' INFP or INTP, if any of those.

    Though I am most likely an F type, I doubt this because I am not very sympathetic and I have always been socially awkward (a psychiatrist has also diagnosed me with mild asperger's syndrome, but I believe this to be a misdiagnosis, and believe there to be another problem that mimics it somehow or is very similar, it is not that I am socially clueless, but rather socially terrified). I am and have always been weak, when conflict or criticism comes along, I will move Heaven and Earth to avoid it, when I face it, my spineless back flops over and I am paralysed. That is a tendency of dom Fi with inf Te. This is perhaps why I feel more on the F side. Ts are not too fazed by conflict. INTJ and ISTJ will say what they need to say and leave it. INTPs will explore it.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    A lot of the time I yearn for some sort of clarity. My beloved inner world is always subject to terrible earthquakes, famines, wars and other disasters. Fi dom, aux Ne. Yet, it seems as if I am apathetic to this, as if I have fled, and do not know where I am, homeless, in fact. Fi-Ne, inf Te. It is of course, because of all of this, that I do not know where my interests or passions lie. Though I desire to know.

    On the outside, I am not very bothered about much. Most of it is all nonsense, jobs, money etc. Fi dom, inf Te. But I do however desire a wife, and children (though I am not sure if I am willing to subject them to this world which is heading for rapid decline). Fi dom (the way you said it).

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    I can not remember, for I do not think I have been at my finest. When I walk however, my mind seems to walk with me, and I am full of thoughts. However, these thoughts do not seem to have anything to them, they seem to be idealistic always and float away. Fi-Ne, inf Te.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    When I read a work written by a genius (your wording - Fi dom) (even though I do not read much, for I am too troubled and lazy to read). Your wording - Fi dom. My inferiority is always in terms of intelligence or wit. Inf Te.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    It is always the general feeling of something, and that is very hard to explain. Fi for feeling and Ne for general. It as if I can feel the ins and outs of everything, and can too be sentimental. Sentimental would be from dom Fi, tert Si. Like reliving the feelings or longing for the feelings you've felt in the past. For instance, when given a roast beef dinner, I can attribute to it certain things via feeling - does it feel old-fashioned? does it feel homely? etc. Fi-Ne-Si. This seems to outweigh taste as in the senses, and so I do not decide on whether I like something or not because of it's mere taste, but the feeling of the taste, or it's appearance, however ridiculous that sounds. Fi dom.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    I'm a mathematical or logical learner, it would seem. When learning at first, I can be quite slow, but as soon as I grasp the big-picture, (intuitive) or the underlying patterns, then I learn quite quickly. If it is of any relevance, my favoured subjects (in terms of education) are Maths, Philosophy, Theoretical Science (excluding Biology), whilst my least favoured are History, Biology, Physical Education or in that sense anything practical at all. Inf Te.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Not at all organized, both outer and inner, though I do desire to be organized. The desire can sometimes come from inf Te but the reason you may not carry it out is because it is in the inferior position. You may not feel organised in your inner world because of Fi entertaining Ne ideas which jumps from thing to thing.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    Second. Fi.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    One-on-one, of course. I do think before I speak when in groups (which is very rare), but when in one-on-one, I seem to juggle thoughts, possibilities and ideas for the very sake of it. Aux Ne. Mostly I try to figure out all of the factors the affect certain things, such as a bus' journey, and then also how individual factors affect other ones just for the very sake of it. Aux Ne.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Most of all, I do not like people that cannot seem to comprehend the notion of privacy. Fi dom. Pretentious people, I also do not like, Fi. though I have been accused of being pretentious myself, but I am confused as to why.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    Philosophy, (Ne) nostalgic things. Fi-Si.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

    They mostly, and even people that do not know me very well, say that I am a 'genius', 'the smartest person they've ever met', people have also stared at me in some sort of amazement, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I deny their compliments, they then begin calling me 'modest'. Which I hate again, for I do not believe that. Fi dom. I have also been called 'unique', 'different' etc. which I like very much and I must admit that I do hope to be called those and other things. Fi-Ne in this context. 'Shy', 'quiet', 'within yourself', all are correct. 'In your own world', correct. Fi dom.
    Last edited by Candy Apple; 07-15-2017 at 05:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Apple View Post
    @benswh Why are you torn between them? J and P is not a simple change of one letter, it changes the cognitive function stack.
    Well, I believe I understand MBTI more than I am letting on, I'm aware of the function stacks and the effect that individual letter changes have on them.

    Although the two do not share any functions at all, I cannot help but question if I could be an INFJ, perhaps it is down to my indecisiveness. There seems to be a presence of some extroverted feeling at least for I can be extremely polite to the point in which it annoys whoever is subjected to it. It is also a common conception that INFPs are writers of many wonders, but my writing is nothing but a montage of blunders. I'm very sure that is something you have already gathered. So I doubt that I am an INFP at all, but your other post is certainly of promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benswh View Post
    There seems to be a presence of some extroverted feeling at least for I can be extremely polite to the point in which it annoys whoever is subjected to it.
    Any person can be polite if they want to... but I'm interested to hear what you do to be polite and how people react to it.

    It is also a common conception that INFPs are writers of many wonders, but my writing is nothing but a montage of blunders. I'm very sure that is something you have already gathered.
    All I'm gathering is Fi-dom-speak. I'm not here to criticise how you write - I'm not going to read what you've said and think it's a blunder. That's far from my mind. I'm just here to categorise what I see by pointing out functions. You can use that information to compare it to function descriptions and see how your thought process may line up. It's for you to draw correlations if you wish. That's all I'm doing.

    So I doubt that I am an INFP at all, but your other post is certainly of promise.
    I think you're an INFP but it's your call. There's no need to put INFP up if you believe you're an INFJ.

  10. #9
    INFP

    [QUOTE=Kinakim;36918754]how do you perceive your surroundings? When you're taking in a location, if you take it in all that much to begin with, how is it that you take it in? How do people see you in this regard, if they've ever remarked on this? Examples of you observing things, or even people, just about anything, would be greatly useful; some form of detail would especially help.

    /QUOTE]

    Seemingly difficult to answer. But what I can say is, regarding people, most people, I can and always have been able to intuitively know somewhat the type of person they are just by looking at them, some being easier than others. Though, it is as if I am not looking at them, but looking somewhere towards them whilst not looking at them, and that must be far from understandable. Perhaps I should refer myself to a psychiatric ward.

    With location, I'd suppose it would be similar to the above if I were to guess. Very sorry I am however, for I can not answer much more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinakim View Post
    Another thing I could use is a description of this inner world you have: when it comes to possibilities, what exactly are you focused on? What exactly do you find yourself thinking about? I don't need private thoughts or anything of the sort, but more like a general idea for how you perceive possibilities and concepts.
    Difficult question again, but I'll try. Imagine the inner world exists as similar to our own.

    Unquenchable anxiety occupies the air, and has for so long that I have grown numb to it. Let's give the anxiety a smell, and as normal, when one is subjected constantly to a smell for long, one's nose grows bored and lacks the enthusiasm to let it in. Confusion is also painted wherever one looks, trees lie upside-down, leaving giraffes questioning their unreasonably long necks.

    On the topic of unreasonable things, the paragraph above is an example of it, for what is it's relevance to the question that you asked?

    Then again, most of the things that I focus on are quite unreasonable. Very silly things, idiotic philosophies that make no sense at all, to give an example would be embarrassing.

    But I will give an example of a process that occurs and I will hope that it is relevant, for your question is much harder to answer than I had expected. Most of the time, I will imagine things, things that are completely unfounded. At the time however I do not realize this. It continues until I stumble upon reality, and all of the fantasies in which I had built momentarily crumble. Delusions, perhaps?
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    INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Apple View Post
    Any person can be polite if they want to... but I'm interested to hear what you do to be polite and how people react to it.

    All I'm gathering is Fi-dom-speak. I'm not here to criticise how you write - I'm not going to read what you've said and think it's a blunder. That's far from my mind. I'm just here to categorise what I see by pointing out functions. You can use that information to compare it to function descriptions and see how your thought process may line up. It's for you to draw correlations if you wish. That's all I'm doing.

    I think you're an INFP but it's your call. There's no need to put INFP up if you believe you're an INFJ.
    I'm becoming more confident that I am indeed an INFP.

    A couple of examples -

    Whenever somebody invites me into their home, I will ask them again and again 'are you sure it's not a problem' and say 'I don't want to intrude'. Going on holiday abroad or emigrating will only lead to myself becoming full of guilt, for I am intruding on land which is not my own.

    If somebody offers to cook for me or give me food, I will constantly say 'only do so if it is not a problem, and if you have both the time and the resources', I might even offer to pay for whatever they have given me, to which they always decline.
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