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  1. #61

    Hmmm Ni vs Ne is hard for me to gauge... I think there's been a lot of good points made here, so I can see were XNFJ and EXFJ could be applicable.

  2. #62

    @faithhealing

    Do you want me to ask you specific questions that could help us see if you're using Ne or Ni?

  3. #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Firemoon View Post
    @faithhealing

    Do you want me to ask you specific questions that could help us see if you're using Ne or Ni?
    Reading more on the cognitive functions I think I can safely say I use Ni, for the most part. But, it may not hurt to dig deeper? Because there's always the potential that I could be wrong. Enough people have pointed out Ne that it may be worth exploring some more, if you're up for it haha.

    I'm actually more divided on INFJ and ENFJ. I think I have noticeable extroverted tendencies that would probably be amplified if it weren't for my poor mental health (I'd imagine an insecure extrovert could be confused for an introvert).

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  5. #64

    Quote Originally Posted by faithhealing View Post
    Reading more on the cognitive functions I think I can safely say I use Ni, for the most part. But, it may not hurt to dig deeper? Because there's always the potential that I could be wrong. Enough people have pointed out Ne that it may be worth exploring some more, if you're up for it haha.

    I'm actually more divided on INFJ and ENFJ. I think I have noticeable extroverted tendencies that would probably be amplified if it weren't for my poor mental health (I'd imagine an insecure extrovert could be confused for an introvert).
    Well, in this case, I'll try INFJ vs ENFJ vs ESFJ.

    • What makes you depressed? Why? What makes you happy? Why?
    • You say you're not living in the present (you'd rather focus on what's happening next) Why?
    • Why do you isolate yourself sometimes?
    • What makes you think you're extrovert? What makes you think you're introvert?

  6. #65
    ISFP

    Between INFJ and ENFJ, I get a strong ENFJ vibe from you. Of course, "vibe" means next to nothing, so I can elaborate on this later, if you want.

  7. #66

    Quote Originally Posted by Firemoon View Post
    Well, in this case, I'll try INFJ vs ENFJ vs ESFJ.

    • What makes you depressed? Why? What makes you happy? Why?
    • You say you're not living in the present (you'd rather focus on what's happening next) Why?
    • Why do you isolate yourself sometimes?
    • What makes you think you're extrovert? What makes you think you're introvert?
    Depression, hmm. I have major depressive disorder so I usually feel down, as negative as that sounds! Feeling rejected, or like I'm not as important to my friend or potential romantic partners than I feel I should be. Feeling alone in a room full of people is a very awful feeling. BPD makes it so I extreme emotions very, very intensely! Some days are just days were you have to cry and move on! Death is depressing! I try not to think about it, although maybe it's more scary. I'm worried about how I'll be able to handle my parents getting older. When I feel like there's nothing to look forward to, like a get together, or even pay day, it's makes everything feel kind of dull and sad. Rainy days, if I was planning on doing something outside. The distance I feel between other people. I want to bridge that gap and I'm determined to figure out how to do that.

    I like attention, deep discussions with someone who 'gets' it especially if they're a stranger and I get to learn about them and how they think, I like teaching someone about something I know about, or just talking comfortable with people. Shopping with my mall, craving a certain type of food and then going out and getting it. Long baths when it's cold outside. Sad music can cheer me up! I'm excited when buying things, I hate shopping but I love it at the same time. Getting into a new show that seems cool. Making other people happy by complimenting them (always sincerely of course!). I try to find the "small" joys around me. Accomplishment, like being satisfied with a piece of writing, or going for a walk when I'm feeling down, stuff like that.

    The present doesn't exist. There's a part of me that feels like it's impossible to fully 'live in the present'. I think I mostly feel that way because I'm always trying to gauge my next move and how someone will react to it. It takes a conscious effort for me to snap out of my dreamy daze, which could describe me like most of the time.

    I isolate myself when I feel unlovable. And, because of the fatigue due to health issues. I've been making more of an effort to approach people and take risks in social situations. Ah! It's actually nice to notice progress like that! People have the ability to hurt me easily with their words whether the realize it or not, so sometimes I leave a get together sooner than I'd like just because I know it's better for my emotional state. This is probably the most upsetting thing about mental health, being LGBT. That feeling of isolation.

    Extrovert - Talkative. Open book. Lively with my body language (usually I'm not at all but I've been feeling more stable lately and people can tell because of how touchy feely I've been getting lol). I like parties once in awhile, and I wish I could attend them more often. My introvert friend said recently that I 'know a lot of people' but I wish I knew more.

    Introvert - I do spend a lot of time alone. Sometimes it's nice after several busy days in a row and sometimes it makes me feel 'off' and lonely. I'm self-aware? At least, I think that I am, I'm introspective, 'stuck in my head' a lot. I'm not so good at making friends, acquaintances ya but not solid friends. I'm cool with doing things along, except errands, I want somebody to come along to make it fun. I feel like I'd be best described as an ambivert (even if that isn't a real thing haha).
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  8. #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Reila View Post
    Between INFJ and ENFJ, I get a strong ENFJ vibe from you. Of course, "vibe" means next to nothing, so I can elaborate on this later, if you want.
    I would love for you to elaborate! I'd be very interested in hearing what you have to say, if you'd be willing!

  9. #68

    @faithhealing

    Alright, it seems like you're INFJ after all, not because I want to be right or anything but simply because you're displaying Ni > Fe. Yes, your Fe is quite strong but it's not.....exactly like a dominant Fe, this is different from that. Let me explain:

    Feeling rejected, or like I'm not as important to my friend or potential romantic partners than I feel I should be.
    Sounds like insecure Fe, but it doesn't indicate the position.

    Death is depressing! I try not to think about it, although maybe it's more scary. I'm worried about how I'll be able to handle my parents getting older. When I feel like there's nothing to look forward to, like a get together, or even pay day, it's makes everything feel kind of dull and sad.
    Big indication of Ni here. What makes an INxJ depressed it's when they expect a gloomy future or when they feel like they can't progress. When something in the future scares them. Thinking about the concept of death isn't uncommon for INxJs who look too far away (struggle to use inferior Se).

    The distance I feel between other people. I want to bridge that gap and I'm determined to figure out how to do that.
    Alright, this sounds like auxiliary Fe. IxFJs who don't use Fe-Ti dynamic very well can have trouble forming genuine connection with people, that's not the case for ExFJs (except if they're under stress).

    I like attention, deep discussions with someone who 'gets' it especially if they're a stranger and I get to learn about them and how they think, I like teaching someone about something I know about, or just talking comfortable with people.
    Hmmm....I feel like INFJ would focus on individuals like that. ExFJs would less likely take time deepening their understanding of individuals (because inferior Ti) but they would certainly pay attention to people's social status, relationships, etc. INFJs care more about people's true motives. I'm not sure which one you relate the most though.

    The present doesn't exist. There's a part of me that feels like it's impossible to fully 'live in the present'. I think I mostly feel that way because I'm always trying to gauge my next move and how someone will react to it. It takes a conscious effort for me to snap out of my dreamy daze, which could describe me like most of the time.
    This is inferior Se. ENFJ aren't that disconnected or dreamy (they can be, but not for too long) because their Se is higher...and it usually serves dominant Fe. In fact, Fe-Se loop is even risky, whereas unhealthy INFJs struggle to get out of their head.

    I isolate myself when I feel unlovable. And, because of the fatigue due to health issues. I've been making more of an effort to approach people and take risks in social situations. Ah! It's actually nice to notice progress like that!
    This is auxiliary Fe. "Making an effort to approach people" and associating it as "taking risks" are proofs that your Fe is developing, and not already dominant. I'm not claiming that ENFJs are going to be good at approaching people, but they wouldn't necessarily see it as "challenging" because it comes naturally to them.

    Extrovert - Talkative. Open book. Lively with my body language (usually I'm not at all but I've been feeling more stable lately and people can tell because of how touchy feely I've been getting lol). I like parties once in awhile, and I wish I could attend them more often. My introvert friend said recently that I 'know a lot of people' but I wish I knew more.
    Yeah....being talkative (or being an open book) doesn't make you an extrovert actually. You may look or act like one, but this is only superficial. Same thing with "knowing a lot of people"! I'm pretty sure introverted celebrities know lots of people, but that doesn't make them extroverts.

    Introvert - I do spend a lot of time alone. Sometimes it's nice after several busy days in a row and sometimes it makes me feel 'off' and lonely. I'm self-aware? At least, I think that I am, I'm introspective, 'stuck in my head' a lot. I'm not so good at making friends, acquaintances ya but not solid friends. I'm cool with doing things along, except errands, I want somebody to come along to make it fun. I feel like I'd be best described as an ambivert (even if that isn't a real thing haha).
    It seems like sometimes you're using Ni, sometimes you need to use Fe, it's quite normal. I believe everyone is an ambivert to some extent ! ;)


    So yeah overall, you're leaning toward INFJ rather than ENFJ. I wasn't not sure myself because of how strong your Fe is but after reading your paragraphs, I believe your Fe is only immature but not dominant. Plus, you have inferior Se and not inferior Ti.
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  10. #69

    @Firemoon

    I definitely never once got the impression that you were overly concerned with being 'right'. And, I'd be more likely to focus on an individual's values, way they approach different situations, as opposed to social position or anything like that. I'm sure I'm subconsciously aware of how someone way be perceived in terms of values and ideals (in a very general sense) in our society. I wouldn't want those ingrained 'beliefs' to actually effect how I treat someone. If that makes any sense!

    I think a number of people on this forum have suggested ENFJ (instead of INFJ) because of how "lighthearted" I seem in my posts, maybe? And, how much of my behavior and feelings are influenced by other people. Which I can understand! But, maybe that's more of a stereotype? I mean, you can be sensitive no matter what your type is I'd imagine.

    Either way, you've shed light on certain aspects of myself that were confusing, like, even to me haha. If you ever decide to start a blog or something, I'll happily be your first reader!
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