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    just want to be judged by a keen eye (to be a bit more certain)

    Before this thread :

    I did several tests and went to a MBTI class once ,so I will try to cage my knowledge and uncage myself.

    Here is my answer :

    0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

    Everything could affect my answers
    ,but I will try my best to be myself
    (Could I really and totally be myself though?)(haha)

    Frankly before I am addicted to this site
    ,I was quite sure about my type
    ,however, the more I spend my energy here
    ,the more I feel a bit lost (haha)




    1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.

    Screen Shot 2018-07-23 at 2.46.00 AM.jpg

    How detailed and fragile it is !
    what does it smell like if I were there ?
    ummm___it could be a great planet to live
    ,to start something ,to do something
    ,making some really beautiful thing.




    2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?

    PLS FOLLOW THIS LIST!
    1)ask : Are we really in the middle of nowhere ?

    2)ask : Does anyone know how to fix this car? (If the answer is NO ,go to 3)

    3)ask : Dose anyone have any idea how to go to the destination ?

    4)listen to all the possibilities ,discuss (if there is enough time) ,and just do it (but If nobody has any idea ,go to 5)

    5)say “so you have to follow my (stupid) idea then
    ,start walking !"

    6)think : I hope we will find something(haha)




    3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?

    (my internal thought : party? what kind of party? Ummm__Do I really have to go?)

    If it seems like it s not my kind of party
    ,I will try to project another option such as splitting the group for their own interests.
    (​I am serious ,it is better than forcing someone to have fun)




    4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?

    inward : I think I will feel a bit numb at first.

    outward : I will try to listen more truly
    ,ask him a question ,veto him ,agree with him
    ,listen ,veto ,agree ,listen ,veto ,agree___
    ,finally it could come to the point that I ask myself “what is the point?”(haha)
    (I definitely will feel a bit sad and guilty afterwards)




    5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?

    Almost the same answer in the 4th question.

    (I hope I could observe and listen more
    without any judgement ,feeling ,or saying
    ,however, it s such a hopeless hope (haha)
    ___maybe when I am an older and wiser human being!)




    6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?

    1)I am not sure if it s the most important one
    ,but this is the first thing that came to my mind

    "Being a real human”
    "Be able to try something”
    "be able to feel”
    "be able to think”
    "be able to suffer”___and "be able to die"

    2)the first thing that came to my mind without thinking or overthinking.

    3)Tomorrow it may change ,but not right now.




    7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?

    a)somehow everybody is different
    ,and yet you could see that I am the same as others
    ,however, if you are close to me enough
    __really__really close
    until you could remember the scent of my breath
    YES! that is the way that you will distinguish me from the others.

    b)my ego is saying "I don’t want to change”(haha__poor me)
    ,however, I think if I could be a better self
    ,I really want to have such a relaxing grip in dancing with this song of life
    __ummm__and be able to be used by my 'head' mindfully
    (is that a personality?!?)
    (for no specific reason__maybe I could see the world better.)




    8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?

    1)the very final stage of my work
    ,just do it ,finish it ,go for it!

    2)it is the crunch time!



    9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?

    a) Nowadays discovering the small and smelly little thing about myself is quite fascinating
    (I find it funny seeing that I am not (that) God
    ,only the struggling animal trying to survive after all)

    b) waking up in the middle of the night
    because of a nightmare
    (I hate it when I have such a bold nightmare
    ,my body needs to sleep!)



    10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?

    1)I am trying to hide my emotion more when I have to speak my mind
    because of the learning curve of my (past) life shows me that
    I could not be frankly emotional when I have to Kill(?!?) someone.

    2)I m trying to stay ,stay still ,and change nothing
    ,but sometimes I could not help it.
    (sorry ,I have to do this ,I did it already
    __sorry (and breathe!))
    (Do I have to give reason for this?
    __maybe it s just my nature)



    Note :

    thanks for giving me the chance to review about myself again
    If you don’t understand any of my answers ,pls feel free to ask and discuss.

    have a FUN day!

    (PS. If it s not too much trouble
    ,could you give me a supporting reason why you think I could be this or that type?)
    Last edited by PlasticRenaissance; 07-23-2018 at 01:26 AM.



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    ISTP

    I don't know if I'm the only one, but I can't do shit with those questionaries(not your fault). I really don't like them, in particular the first 5 questions. Could you just tell something about yourself? How you view the world, how you handle people in everyday life, your social circle, your hobbies etc. An other importan one: how do you live your life. Are you structured or chaotic.

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    For the 2nd Questionnaire by Herp


    hope it could make the explanation clearer.



    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    The clash of my Gut and my Head



    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    a)Knowing myself and understanding my action vs. reaction

    b)Ripple effect




    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    When I really know my true feeling (to something)(and without actually thinking)
    (for example : knowing the real taste of food in my mouth)

    (and I really love a silky-smooth ,dreamless sleep
    just make me feel so alive after waking up)




    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    The way of seeing the world__I guess firmly


    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    Depends on what kind of the situation or problem

    If it s quite serious ,I will ‘write' to ‘see' everything hopefully
    ,however most of the time (if it s my personal issue)
    ,I will use only my gut's feeling
    (or in the beginning___,and in the end)




    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis?
    Do you like to have control of the outcome?


    Depends on what kind of the project

    a)Personally if I could be involves in every process
    ,I really will not sleep to push it through
    __nowadays I know that I could do everything
    ,so I start to trust people more and more

    b)Frankly YES.
    (but with a bit of opened mind that everything could go wrong
    __I hope not)




    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    Nowadays I try to have a bit of FUN everyday.
    (for example : to watch my silly fishes eating
    ,their mouth is too small to eat the food in one bite
    __kind of cute and funny(haha)
    or taking lots of energy to answer this test
    ,I could feel the passionated vibe in my vein too)




    8) When you want to learn something new,
    what feels more natural for you?
    (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)


    The mix of energetic and nervous feeling to try something new
    ,but I really love learning the ‘rounded’ thing and character
    (from their mind to their ass)(yep__greedy)(haha)
    (using my dirty head to get my hand dirty will be the perfect fun!)




    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    I have my own way of doing thing
    (trying to be a bit messy intensionally__haha)




    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    First of all there is no such a thing as a really new idea.
    (I try to remind myself every time when I think that I got a new idea)
    and actually the principles come before the birth of idea.
    (the 2nd and some ideas don’t make sense and don’t need a supporting info to do)




    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    I could not make everybody happy ,or like me (or my work)
    ,but I hope my action (or my non-action) will make a beautiful
    ripple of water.




    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    a) I am try to re-think and re-think before speaking
    (frankly sometimes my mind is too quick to judge about my”thinking”
    ,so I always feel ,blinks-think ,then speak ,then feel ,then re-think)

    b) one-on-one > group ,but if it s my kind of group ,it is OK!




    13) Do you jump into action right away
    or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping?
    Does action speaks more than words?


    a)Depends on what kind of action (again)(haha)
    sometimes it s so goooood ,not to know!
    (,but sometimes if I want THAT red ,I have to get THAT red)

    b)Nope ,some words could be very powerful (such as a ‘lie’)
    ,and some action could be a pointless ,retard fun’s act (haha)




    14) It's Saturday. You're at home,
    and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out.
    What will you do?


    Q : Is it a close friend ?



    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    At first I will be a bit quiet
    ,then maybe I will go to eat a ‘banana’(haha)




    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Their purpose of THAT kind of act



    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    Frankly NO.
    (Actually I prefer if they could read than listen)




    18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life

    If I don’t pay attention to something
    ,I will never know the existence of it.
    (my weak judgement could be "I could exercise more”)




    19) How do your friends perceive you?
    What is wrong about their perception?
    What would your friends never say about your personality?


    (Actually I ve never asked them directly)
    I get an onion kind of friend’s circle
    the more they get closer to my toilet
    ,the more they could be a bit shocked (haha)



    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?


    cooking ,reading books ,watching movies ,watching porns
    (maybe biking)__very very basic
    (Ummm___somehow kind of dislike my totally day-off
    __too loose to handle)




    Note :

    I am try to make a quick and short answer ,it could be a bit confusing
    __so feel free to ask and discuss more

    (PS. If it s not too much trouble
    ,could you give me a supporting reason why you think I could be this or that type?)

    Enjoy your day!
    Last edited by PlasticRenaissance; 07-23-2018 at 01:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davex View Post
    I don't know if I'm the only one, but I can't do shit with those questionaries(not your fault). I really don't like them, in particular the first 5 questions. Could you just tell something about yourself? How you view the world, how you handle people in everyday life, your social circle, your hobbies etc. An other importan one: how do you live your life. Are you structured or chaotic.
    Thanks for the quick response
    I hope the 2nd Questionnaire(#3 post) could suit your style of Q? more
    (I am still learning__so I think every Q&A is like a Jigsaw
    ,so I try to answer them if I could)



    Here is the answer of your additional Q?


    Could you just tell something about yourself?

    This is a really hard question to answer.
    I really have no idea in what way you want to know.
    (Could I skip this one?)(haha)


    How you view the world?

    There is only one almost real world
    ,it s the world in my eyes (seriously!!)


    How you handle people in everyday life?

    which people? what kind of people?
    I handle everyone differently
    ,but If I could tie them into one piece
    ,maybe I really like to ignore them much more
    (for the sake of my mind)


    your social circle?

    very ‘onion' and very basic
    __I guess just like my neighbors !


    your hobbies ?

    I don’t really have a real hobby.
    I mix them together!
    sometimes I could get some kind of work
    ,or idea from the pointless activity

    (I like poetry ,watching movies ,making notes
    ,biking in the windy day
    ,and also cooking__these are not my hobby though
    _sometimes they are much more stressful than my work)


    An other important one : how do you live your life? Are you structured or chaotic?

    I have my own system to do thing.
    some may look chaotic from another point of view
    ,but actually it s in my A>B>C…


    NOTE : pls feel free to ask and discuss more
    ,I really want to know your opinion (esp. about my cognitive functions)

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    ISTP

    You seem to be an Fi dominant. But I can't really decide whether you are an Isfp or an Infp. In your answers I can't find a lot of exmples of Ne or Se. So if you could write a little bit more about the functions in relation to yourself. What you should do is look into the 2 types yourself and try to decide if one of those really fits you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davex View Post
    You seem to be an Fi dominant. But I can't really decide whether you are an Isfp or an Infp. In your answers I can't find a lot of exmples of Ne or Se. So if you could write a little bit more about the functions in relation to yourself. What you should do is look into the 2 types yourself and try to decide if one of those really fits you.
    Wow! I am quite surprised (I didn't see this coming!)(hahaha)
    could we discuss more???


    1)If I have to consider only between ISFP and INFP ,I have to say 'INFP is much more my color'
    (the description of ISFP is too jelly-joy-jingle bell-ish for me)(or maybe I have this lighter side of myself which I cannot see!)

    2)Could I ask you about the reason of giving me a Fi-dom?

    3)Frankly I ve never seen (or considered) myself as a P-person
    ,all of my family ,my friends (and actually myself) always say that "you are quite strict"
    "you are such an antsy perfectionist". (and actually I get annoyed of myself sometimes
    if I started to see the pointless /subconsciously (too) organized habit in my nature
    that I have no power over it___haha)
    (for example : I always organize tableware in the restaurant spontaneously (very annoying__haha)
    ,same situation with the stack of magazines in the coffee shop__Ummm)

    4)I am not sure if this could fit into any ??-dom.
    'I am considered myself as an expressive person' (emotion ,thought ,and bit of body)
    (my people also complained about this)
    (actually a bit too expressive for my own standard
    ,so nowadays I really learn to suppress them quite a lot__esp outside my studio)

    5)I really like to discuss more about S?-dom
    (since N?-dom is bit ambiguous to discuss first)(maybe later)
    could you ask me something that could start to activate my S?-dom 's state of mind?


    SUPER-Thanks for doing this ,I actually could 'see' something.
    Last edited by PlasticRenaissance; 07-23-2018 at 05:32 AM.

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    ISTP

    2)Could I ask you about the reason of giving me a Fi-dom?
    Your answer at question 2(second questionnaire) is quiet introspective. This off course doesn't mean that only Fi doms can be introspective, however it are mostly Fi doms who yarning to find their own indentity.

    Your answer at question 5. Prefering to use your gut feelings for decision making is a Fi thing.

    Your answer at question 19. I assume that you mean, that when people get to know you better they might be shocked because there's much more going on in your head than that you show to people. That's a typical Fi thing.

    There are also some other subtle hints that made me think you are a Fi dom, but I'm too lazy to write it all down.




    3)Frankly I ve never seen (or considered) myself as a P-person
    ,all of my family ,my friends (and actually myself) always say that "you are quite strict"
    "you are such an antsy perfectionist". (and actually I get annoyed of myself sometimes
    if I started to see the pointless /subconsciously (too) organized habit in my nature
    that I have no power over it___haha)
    (for example : I always organize tableware in the restaurant spontaneously (very annoying__haha)
    ,same situation with the stack of magazinesin the coffee shop__Ummm)
    P types not being organized is a stereotype. I do agree that J types overall seem to be more structured, but that doesn't mean p types can't be. For example I'm an Istp but with some things in my life I'm quiet structured. And for Infps this can also be true, especially since they have Te although inferior. In certain situations Infps can even look like Estjs.
    Do you have much discipline? Do you generally finish what you've started?




    4)I am not sure if this could fit into any ??-dom.
    'I am considered myself as an expressive person' (emotion ,thought ,and bit of body)
    (my people also complained about this)
    (actually a bit too expressive for my own standard
    ,so nowadays I really learn to suppress them quite a lot__esp outside my studio)
    This would contradict your answer at question 19(assuming I interpret your answer right).





    5)I really like to discuss more about S?-dom
    (since N?-dom is bit ambiguous to discuss first)(maybe later)
    could you ask me something that could start to activate my S?-dom 's state of mind?
    I don't understand your question. I'm also pretty sure you are not a Se dom. You don't show much se. Si dom could be although I don't really think you are. You don't look like an Isfj. You could be an Istj with relatively low Te and high Fi. But I don't really think you are an Istj either, you seem to make too much decisions with your feelings to be one.
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    P types not being organized is a stereotype.
    I do agree that J types overall seem to be more structured,
    but that doesn't mean p types can't be.
    For example I'm an Istp but with some things in my life I'm quiet structured.
    And for Infps this can also be true, especially since they have Te although inferior.
    In certain situations Infps can even look like Estjs.

    Do you have much discipline?


    Screen Shot 2018-07-23 at 7.50.51 PM.jpg

    The picture of circle B. (and hint of A.) could represent my discipline for my ‘body’.
    The picture of circle C. (and hint of A.) could represent my
    discipline for my dynamic with work ,people ,and culture.


    Do you generally finish what you've started?

    1)Physically I am trying to do my best in the timeframe
    ,but I am learning about myself that I could never feel totally ‘finished’ mentally.

    2)I have some unfinished books ,and undone work in my pocket
    (The state of my feeling is so HiGH if I could finish something
    ,so I try to have tiny task to kill everyday in order to balance with
    the guilty of undone activities)


    Note1 :
    you mentioned that INFP have inferior-Te to create the structure of living
    ,however, if I recall it correctly ,
    “inferior function is the function that get activated
    when the user is very stressed out” .
    ,however, in my case ,I am quite natural (and happy)
    to get my surroundings in order
    __(but sometimes it s annoying to people
    around me ,so they start to point out and complain
    ,that make me feel fed up about myself
    ,so I m trying to be mindful about my 2nd nature)




    Your answer at question 19. I assume that you mean,
    that when people get to know you better they might be shocked
    because there's much more going on in your head than that you show to people.
    That's a typical Fi thing.



    This would contradict your answer at question 19(assuming I interpret your answer right)

    1)the work ‘contradict’ could describe my character well
    if you stay in the 1st ring of onion-skin ,you could think that I am very quiet (bit introverted)
    if you come closer to the 2nd ring ,you could say “ you are louder and bold than I expected”
    if you come much closer to the 3rd ring ,you could complaint
    like “why are you so shuted-down?” “why do you pick up your cell?”

    2)thinking about ‘Volcano’-like ’s expressive

    3)I really have a problem hiding my feeling and my opinion on something in the conversation. It will be sooooo obvious if I disagree with someone or something.


    Note2 :
    I am not sure if I could explain this with the influence of MBTI cognitive function
    ,however, for the enneagram ’s description is quite obvious.




    I don't understand your question. I'm also pretty sure you are not a Se dom. You don't show much se. Si dom could be although I don't really think you are. You don't look like an Isfj. You could be an Istj with relatively low Te and high Fi. But I don't really think you are an Istj either, you seem to make too much decisions with your feelings to be one.

    That is my bad!
    Ummm…If I am INFP ,I would have Si as the tertiary function so how could I know for sure about that?
    what kind of question that I have to ask myself if I have Si (or Se?)(esp in the tertiary function)




    Thanks again for taking time and energy with me
    have a lovely day!

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    ISTP

    Do you have much discipline?

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    The picture of circle B. (and hint of A.) could represent my discipline for my ‘body’.
    The picture of circle C. (and hint of A.) could represent my
    discipline for my dynamic with work ,people ,and culture.

    Do you generally finish what you've started?

    1)Physically I am trying to do my best in the timeframe
    ,but I am learning about myself that I could never feel totally ‘finished’ mentally.

    2)I have some unfinished books ,and undone work in my pocket
    (The state of my feeling is so HiGH if I could finish something
    ,so I try to have tiny task to kill everyday in order to balance with
    the guilty of undone activities)
    I ain't gonna lie, sometimes I find it difficult to understand what you mean like in the case above. So I can't really help you with that part.



    Note1 :
    you mentioned that INFP have inferior-Te to create the structure of living
    ,however, if I recall it correctly ,
    “inferior function is the function that get activated
    when the user is very stressed out” .
    ,however, in my case ,I am quite natural (and happy)
    to get my surroundings in order
    __(but sometimes it s annoying to people
    around me ,so they start to point out and complain
    ,that make me feel fed up about myself
    ,so I m trying to be mindful about my 2nd nature)
    The inferior function is like a lot of people call it a subconscious function. What is meant by this is that someone doesn't really have control over his/her inferior function. It can just randomly appear and can be hard to control. You are right about it a lot of times being
    activated during stressful situations, however you doens't need be stressed to make you inferior function flair up. I think that escpecially Infps and Isfps can be prone to use Te to protect the sensitive Fi function.

    When inferior Te flairs up it can be very bossy/micro managing and judgmental with a lot of black and white thinking. Because it's a inferior function it's very rough when utilized, and it will be often more intense than when a Estj would use Te. I also want to add that Infps have tertairy Si, and Si like structure. It seems like espescially when Infps get older they begin to appreciate organization more.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/commen...self_in_infps/

    Edit:https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/commen...make_you_feel/




    Edit2: I don't want to put you in the Infp box, so if you are thinking about an other type you should say it.
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    I don't want to put you in the Infp box, so if you are thinking about an other type you should say it


    frankly I feel a bit struck ,

    1) I took a few test ,and went to MBTI's class once__the result is always INFJ
    so I put myself in the cage for quite a while
    and start using some INFJ 's cognitive function to sharpen my life
    (in the best way of my knowledge)
    (and mixing with enneagram 's stuff which I actually prefer because of the dynamic of it )


    2) After you told me that I might be INFP ,I consider it and quite agree with your point of view in some levels
    ,but their cognitive function is totally upside down
    (I don't mind being INFP ,but just want to make sure for this time)(hahaha)
    so right now I feel confused.
    (because for me the most similar type to INFJ has to be INTJ)(in the term of Ni-dom)
    (so I was mistyped ,I will consider INTJ first)


    3) one of my friends and my sister are put in INFP's cage and they seem bit lighter than my character
    (three of us have the same enneagram ,but my sis and my friend seem to have a similar shade of character!!)
    (I am not sure where I got the image of INFJ to be a bit evil
    ,and brainwasher person than INFP__ummm maybe Hitler)
    (and yep!! I am considered myself to be quite like Hitler sometimes)(haha)


    so sorry that I put you in this position of God
    (but you seem to be the only one who cares to answer my thread)
    you have to be tired ,

    and also so sorry for my broken-English (,it s not my first language)
    It must be hard to understand me (sometimes I don't even understand myself)(haha)

    i'm appreciated your effort and kind heart!
    Last edited by PlasticRenaissance; 07-23-2018 at 10:28 AM.


     
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