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    If you could tell me who I am, that would be just dandy

    All right people, I decided to bring in the big cojones. And by that I mean you guys, because maybe an objective person on hte internet with vast knowledge of typing (or less vast, I don't know, something?) would be better at typing me than both me and my type-crazy friends. So, help? I'll put some info from this form I found on the forum below and am very curious what you'll make of it!

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    Well, I'm pretty much a walking contradiction. I'm very sensitive, but very cold-hearted. I care so much, but not at all. I'm very empathetic, but only if I care about someone or if it's a subject that interests me. Also, I'm a person that becomes depressed and lonely quickly if not having people around me constantly, but I feel like I can't focus or exist ever if I'm not alone enough. I feel like I have so many personal attributes that I'm either 50 types at once or none at all and it confuses the hell out of me. It's also very situational and depends on the person I'm near, so that doesn't help either.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    Meaning. A goal. SOmething to really care about, to feel alive and to fight for forever more. I need to be excited, I need to be curious, to be challenged and I yearn for a feeling of peace in caring. I knowing that what I'm doing is the right thing, is the thing I should be doing and the thing that is best for me.

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    I was invincible, no really. I could do anything, with anyone, anywhere. I was a good person, I was nice and charming and friendly and selfless and always willing to help someone out. I was always positive, had boundless energy and motivation to do anything and had constant insights while being calm and collected all the same. It's mostly the calm thing, the thing where my brain doesn't overflow, but I'm still full of ideaus and excitement.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    Mostly people telling me or letting me know they think they're better than me, or people doing something that I know I'm very bad at and expecting me to be very good at it. This is mostly in the 'being nice' department, I'm very blunt and bordering on rude according to some people and lots of people judge me on the fact that I don't have that fake social thing where I smile and talk about you behind your back. If I've no ideas I could explore, like really this this and that I want but can't do because of some thing that makes for me not being able to do it, that makes me feel pretty inferior. Like everyone around me functions better than me.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    That's a hard one. On one hand I care so so much about how stuff feels to me, if it makes me feel nervous, anxious or angry I really don't want to do it or choose to do it. I choose non-toxic situations that make me feel calm and like I can do anything I set my mind to. But, on the other hand I tend to make decisions based on how much it benefits me. Like if I were picking out a house and I'd look at how loud the street is, how near nature it is, just practical stuff that would make me function better. Because that would make life easier and hence me happier.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

    I would like to have control on the total outcome, yes. I tend to arrogantly think I know better and if we don't follow my course, it's going to suck and the project is going to be way less good than it could be and it should be the best it can be. So, needless to say, I'm not the best person to have in your group if you think you know better, because I will fite you.

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    There was this time where I'd tried for months to master something. It wasn't working and I'd tried any possible way. It. Just. Didn't. Work. BUt I wouldn't give up, I had to master this damn skill. ANd this one day, after months of trying, it worked. I was calm and collected, I thought about what I was doing and I'd all the knowledge and all the partical preparation I could have and there it was. It worked. Just out of the blue. And that is one of the happiest moments I can remember.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    I tend to jump right the hell in. I can read and read, but that does very little for me. I have to do something, try something and fail and then turn to the page. Because only when I've seen something work or tried something, can I make sense of otherwise meaningless words.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Very Unorganized, It's really bad. I loose everything, constantly. I've different systems and stuff for everything, but then I kind of lose track of it or get lazy and then stuff and information is everywhere again.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    I immediately try to understand how it works. I basically analyze everything, it's fun and I need to know how it works. If I don't know how it works, then I'm not very happy. If I have to, I'll look for evidence, but only because I'm forced to in situations where people want more evidence. If it's right it's right and I know it.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    Definitely following what I believe and being myself, I'm not going to give up my sense of justice and my sense of doing what's right and what's me for some group dynamic that doesn't freaking matter.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    I mostly speak before I think, I'm very quick and always have a comeback for everything. SOmetimes I'm a little too quick and I say something incredibly insensitive or stupid when I didn't really mean to. I prefer one on one though, groups confuse me and there's too many people talking. It's hard for me to focus on one thing and then I'm trying to have 5 conversations aft once.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks louder than words?

    Mostly, yes. It really depends if I care about said thing and if I'm really tired. I tend to jump into things quickly, things happening or things being said. I'm right there, standing next to it. I really think words have some meaning and can affect people greatly, but in the end it's all talk and actions are way louder than words. An 'I hate you' followed by someone taking care of you, makes the words pretty redundant.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

    Fuck it, I'll tape it. I'm going the hell out and I'm having fun, watching TV you can do every day.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    I obsess about everything and I either do everything at once and never sit still or I can't move because my head is filled with everything tht could go wrong, has gone wrong or is probably gonna go wrong someday. I get overwhelmed by everything that's in my head and everything seems like an endless stream of bad ideas, I strart stressing about if I'm breathing normally, I keep feeling my thumb (is that normal, it is, isn't it?), that sort of stuff. I'm am very awful when I'm stressed and sometimes I just get mad at everything and start yelling for no reason.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Too freaking obnixious. Come on, look in the mirror. So freaking arrogant, mean to other people, dismissive of everyone or won't see the truth/some other side to a coin. I hate narrow mindedness and I hate feeling like I'm being judged on my every move. Why is it that it's so terrible that I'm sitting on the corner of the table instead of the chair, come the hell on, lighten up would you. I also hate not being able to express myself in a non-restrained way and I dislike not being able to talk to people on a personal level. People being dismissive or shallow or people who plainly don't have anything to their personality. That bored me.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    Yes, life! Life, how it works, people. I like to know what's going on in people's heads, what they're thinking and feeling about stuff. I really want to know what makes people tick, what makes them feel excited and happy, what makes their realtionship work or not work. I dislike casual and practical conversation and am bored byt things that are every day.

    18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life.

    Practical things. Pretty much anything that means I need to do laundry or make dinner. I don't care for it much, but I need to do them and so I do when I absolutely have to. I like to do fun things and sometimes I can forget that I need to do stuff because I have to. Not everything is awesome, some things are just things and they need to be dealt with.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

    My friends think I'm some asshole who really doesn't care about what other people think or feel and only lives to have fun and take advantage of eeverything and everyone. They really think I'm not a nice person and they can't share sensitive things with me, because I will just be harsh to them and hurt them more. They're very wrong, because I'd never do anything to hurt them and I'm always there for them when need be. They confuse my attitude towards people I don't know and things I don't care about with my personality, which is terribly wrong of them and makes me kind of sad. They could trust me with anything, but don't always feel like they can. They'd never call me super empathetic, considerate, polite or nice.


    Well, here's my form! I'd really like to hear your thoughts on my MBTI type, my enneagram and my social variant stacking! If there's any questions, I'd love to hear them!

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    Going out, doing stuff! I'm always outside, doing some thing or another. I like doing sports, eating weird cake with my best friend or helping out at shelters. I'm very nature, people and animal oriented and I like to be active, though I can be very lazy and spend my whole day sleeping and doing absolutely nothing.



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    You're a hard case, buddy hahaha. I'm between ENTJ (probably my best guess), ENTP and ENFP (least likely but it's still good to consider it). But seeing that you're a very impulsive individual that doesn't quite have the best fame out in the friends zone (not to be confounded with friendzone), and in the inside you do care about these people and just don't know exactly how to do this — which doesn't help as you seem like an idealist to me hahaha —, I would say you're an ENTJ. I live daily with an ENTJ in my house and when he's stressed out, he gets that explosion of pessimism, self-deprecation, arrogance and trying-to-be-a-workaholic vibe that I get from you when you're stressed out too. Check it out and tell me if I got it right, if not, fuck, we'll continue the search hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHeyall View Post
    All right people, I decided to bring in the big cojones. And by that I mean you guys, because maybe an objective person on hte internet with vast knowledge of typing (or less vast, I don't know, something?) would be better at typing me than both me and my type-crazy friends. So, help? I'll put some info from this form I found on the forum below and am very curious what you'll make of it!
    Hi, I've started reading and quickly saw that there's a lot to unpack here. I stopped reading ahead and now I'm starting the full analysis. I'm interested to see where we end up.

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    Well, I'm pretty much a walking contradiction. I'm very sensitive, but very cold-hearted. I care so much, but not at all. I'm very empathetic, but only if I care about someone or if it's a subject that interests me. Also, I'm a person that becomes depressed and lonely quickly if not having people around me constantly, but I feel like I can't focus or exist ever if I'm not alone enough. I feel like I have so many personal attributes that I'm either 50 types at once or none at all and it confuses the hell out of me. It's also very situational and depends on the person I'm near, so that doesn't help either.
    Most of this just makes you human. We don't neatly fit into squares unless we choose to.

    Already I can see Fi+Te here. Caring a lot but only when you're personally invested is par for the course for Fi/Te. I'm keeping some room here, since Fi and Fe can sometimes use the same words to describe a different process, so I might switch on this one at some point. Nothing here is final.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    Meaning. A goal. SOmething to really care about, to feel alive and to fight for forever more. I need to be excited, I need to be curious, to be challenged and I yearn for a feeling of peace in caring. I knowing that what I'm doing is the right thing, is the thing I should be doing and the thing that is best for me.
    I see a lot of possible Fi here. Fi-dominants spend a lot of time on 'what do I want' and variations of that. Focus on goals could be Te and need for excitement could be Se or Ne. The above could fit with INFP, ESFP, ENTJ, etcetera. I can see mostly Fi+Te though still.

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    I was invincible, no really. I could do anything, with anyone, anywhere. I was a good person, I was nice and charming and friendly and selfless and always willing to help someone out. I was always positive, had boundless energy and motivation to do anything and had constant insights while being calm and collected all the same. It's mostly the calm thing, the thing where my brain doesn't overflow, but I'm still full of ideaus and excitement.
    This would fit best with Ne, possibly Ne+Fi. The "overflowing with ideas" part is definitely an Ne-thing and the positive and charming energy is typical for ENFP. I can see other possibilites though.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    Mostly people telling me or letting me know they think they're better than me, or people doing something that I know I'm very bad at and expecting me to be very good at it. This is mostly in the 'being nice' department, I'm very blunt and bordering on rude according to some people and lots of people judge me on the fact that I don't have that fake social thing where I smile and talk about you behind your back. If I've no ideas I could explore, like really this this and that I want but can't do because of some thing that makes for me not being able to do it, that makes me feel pretty inferior. Like everyone around me functions better than me.
    This makes me think most of INFP. The social anxiety (responding in a certain way to social expectations), the bluntness is often associated with Te, where it being lower might give you less control over it and not doing that 'fake social thing' is very Fi.

    Overall, I see a lot of reasons to suspect strong Fi, most probably in the dominant position.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    That's a hard one. On one hand I care so so much about how stuff feels to me, if it makes me feel nervous, anxious or angry I really don't want to do it or choose to do it. I choose non-toxic situations that make me feel calm and like I can do anything I set my mind to. But, on the other hand I tend to make decisions based on how much it benefits me. Like if I were picking out a house and I'd look at how loud the street is, how near nature it is, just practical stuff that would make me function better. Because that would make life easier and hence me happier.
    Again, lots of Fi, with some Te mixed in. Not much to get a start in Ne vs Se here.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

    I would like to have control on the total outcome, yes. I tend to arrogantly think I know better and if we don't follow my course, it's going to suck and the project is going to be way less good than it could be and it should be the best it can be. So, needless to say, I'm not the best person to have in your group if you think you know better, because I will fite you.
    Again, Te+Fi. I'm still leaning towards Fi dominant because it's so much more visible than Te. Both are very strongly present though.

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    There was this time where I'd tried for months to master something. It wasn't working and I'd tried any possible way. It. Just. Didn't. Work. BUt I wouldn't give up, I had to master this damn skill. ANd this one day, after months of trying, it worked. I was calm and collected, I thought about what I was doing and I'd all the knowledge and all the partical preparation I could have and there it was. It worked. Just out of the blue. And that is one of the happiest moments I can remember.
    This type of tenacity is very common for IxFP. I have some IxFP students that know they have more trouble with it than others but it's important to them so they refuse to fail and eventually are very proud when they eventually succeed.

    This type of behaviour is a strong strike against high Te by the way. Te would have stopped this nonsense a long time ago and started to do something else where it can excel.

    All this makes me lean more towards ISFP maybe since Ni tends to be obsessive like this, but I can still see INFP too. Si can also do this type of thing. Nothing clear yet.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    I tend to jump right the hell in. I can read and read, but that does very little for me. I have to do something, try something and fail and then turn to the page. Because only when I've seen something work or tried something, can I make sense of otherwise meaningless words.
    Again, seems like possible Se+Ni. Se learns by doing, while Ne learns by considering more and more options. Ths type of learning seems very ISFP to me.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Very Unorganized, It's really bad. I loose everything, constantly. I've different systems and stuff for everything, but then I kind of lose track of it or get lazy and then stuff and information is everywhere again.
    This again reminds me of Ni over Ne. The different systems of organizing are typical for Ni and losing track of it could be a consequence of it being tertiary.

    Superficially this would also fit with Ne, but Ne abhors systems and order (unless there's Ti leading it of course). It's still possible but less and less likely with the way everything in this post is worded.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    I immediately try to understand how it works. I basically analyze everything, it's fun and I need to know how it works. If I don't know how it works, then I'm not very happy. If I have to, I'll look for evidence, but only because I'm forced to in situations where people want more evidence. If it's right it's right and I know it.
    This fits with Fi+Se. I see a 'judging' lead here, again with the Se 'jumping right in' over analyzing and gathering facts. Fi knows 'when it's right' and Se is okay with experimenting until it feels right.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    Definitely following what I believe and being myself, I'm not going to give up my sense of justice and my sense of doing what's right and what's me for some group dynamic that doesn't freaking matter.
    That's Fi again.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    I mostly speak before I think, I'm very quick and always have a comeback for everything. SOmetimes I'm a little too quick and I say something incredibly insensitive or stupid when I didn't really mean to. I prefer one on one though, groups confuse me and there's too many people talking. It's hard for me to focus on one thing and then I'm trying to have 5 conversations aft once.
    Again, Fi first. Se could be the impulsive talker part and Ni over Ne seems fitting when you're getting confused by multiple conversations at once. Ne tends to be great at switching things up and staying mentally flexible at all times. Ni needs to focus more.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks louder than words?

    Mostly, yes. It really depends if I care about said thing and if I'm really tired. I tend to jump into things quickly, things happening or things being said. I'm right there, standing next to it. I really think words have some meaning and can affect people greatly, but in the end it's all talk and actions are way louder than words. An 'I hate you' followed by someone taking care of you, makes the words pretty redundant.
    Fits perfectly with ISFP. Se wants to jump in and try to make it work and also trusts actions over words. This philosophical style of reasoning is also familiar with some ISFPs that I know.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

    Fuck it, I'll tape it. I'm going the hell out and I'm having fun, watching TV you can do every day.
    Personal values first but being actionable and outwardly flexible. Works for ISFP.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    I obsess about everything and I either do everything at once and never sit still or I can't move because my head is filled with everything tht could go wrong, has gone wrong or is probably gonna go wrong someday. I get overwhelmed by everything that's in my head and everything seems like an endless stream of bad ideas, I strart stressing about if I'm breathing normally, I keep feeling my thumb (is that normal, it is, isn't it?), that sort of stuff. I'm am very awful when I'm stressed and sometimes I just get mad at everything and start yelling for no reason.
    That's inferior Te acting up. Te is the planner and organizer. A stressed ISFP will find themselves obsessing in this way and find it hard to center on their needs. The 'acting out' in an unhealthy way is also par for the course.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Too freaking obnixious. Come on, look in the mirror. So freaking arrogant, mean to other people, dismissive of everyone or won't see the truth/some other side to a coin. I hate narrow mindedness and I hate feeling like I'm being judged on my every move. Why is it that it's so terrible that I'm sitting on the corner of the table instead of the chair, come the hell on, lighten up would you. I also hate not being able to express myself in a non-restrained way and I dislike not being able to talk to people on a personal level. People being dismissive or shallow or people who plainly don't have anything to their personality. That bored me.
    I can see some different parts of this. People with high showing Te and Fe might be a problem. People judging you personally is also a typical trigger for IxFPs.
    There's some other things here to unpack that probably aren't related to ISFP in general, but to your personal development as an ISFP. I'm not a psychiatrist so I'm a little out of my depth on the rest here.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    Yes, life! Life, how it works, people. I like to know what's going on in people's heads, what they're thinking and feeling about stuff. I really want to know what makes people tick, what makes them feel excited and happy, what makes their realtionship work or not work. I dislike casual and practical conversation and am bored byt things that are every day.
    Se, life. Fi, interest in other people. Ni, trying to get at their fundamentals... It all fits pretty well for ISFP.

    18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life.

    Practical things. Pretty much anything that means I need to do laundry or make dinner. I don't care for it much, but I need to do them and so I do when I absolutely have to. I like to do fun things and sometimes I can forget that I need to do stuff because I have to. Not everything is awesome, some things are just things and they need to be dealt with.
    This can fit with inferior Te, although I can see Ni+Se here too. At there very least no Si in sight anywhere, which also fits.
    The realism at the end is also a type of maturity that I see a lot in Fi-dominants. Te-dominants tend to fight this type of things forever and Ni-dominants keep struggling with this. Fi-dominants end up accepting it as a part of life (although it does tend to keep being a thing of course).

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

    My friends think I'm some asshole who really doesn't care about what other people think or feel and only lives to have fun and take advantage of eeverything and everyone. They really think I'm not a nice person and they can't share sensitive things with me, because I will just be harsh to them and hurt them more. They're very wrong, because I'd never do anything to hurt them and I'm always there for them when need be. They confuse my attitude towards people I don't know and things I don't care about with my personality, which is terribly wrong of them and makes me kind of sad. They could trust me with anything, but don't always feel like they can. They'd never call me super empathetic, considerate, polite or nice.
    I can imagine that if you're harsh towards others that can have an effect on how people see you. This is actually something that is pretty rare for ISFPs. I'm interested to learn how this came about for you. Were you raised in a household where this was normal communication? Have you decided that the intricacies of communication aren't for you? Are you indifferent to other people's feelings?

    Don't get me wrong, there's nothing inherently wrong with being blunt. It's just not something I associate with Fi-dominance. Most ISFPs I know go out of their way to structure their feedback in a way that they could never hurt someone's feelings. I'm interested to find out why it's different for you. (mostly, I'm trying to learn more about how people can develop differently within certain types).

    Finally, you say that this all makes you sad. So are you unable to change, unwilling to change or maybe you don't know how to change? Maybe you're bad at predicting other's intentions or reactions? That could be a factor. It's also okay if you don't want to talk about it, I'm just curious.

    Well, here's my form! I'd really like to hear your thoughts on my MBTI type, my enneagram and my social variant stacking! If there's any questions, I'd love to hear them!

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    Going out, doing stuff! I'm always outside, doing some thing or another. I like doing sports, eating weird cake with my best friend or helping out at shelters. I'm very nature, people and animal oriented and I like to be active, though I can be very lazy and spend my whole day sleeping and doing absolutely nothing.
    Again, fits perfectly with Fi first, Se second.

    Overall, the above is very much an ISFP description. There's some parts that don't fit the squares perfectly, but that kind of thing is always going to happen with human beings. I hope you can use my description in some way and I wish you luck in finding your type.

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    INFP

    Wow, alright, so I probably can't add much after Drecon's analysis, but I'll add my 2 cents in:

    For the first part of the questionnaire I was seeing some Fi heavy answers (personal belief, I'll Do Me So Fuck Off, wanting to find meaning that coincides with personal beliefs), but after reading on Se was pretty prominent too (going out, very hands on, living presently and fully in the world, experiencing). Your experience under stress sounds a lot like lower Ni-- getting wrapped into a hopeless future and possibilities-- further confirming higher Se. I was considering ESTP for a bit when you described the insensitivity, but it was already clear that you had Fi in your upper stack along with a strong Se = xSFP, possibly ESFP (along with a possibly developed Te that makes you seem brash).

    Concerning enneagram, I'm not sure if I can make an accurate typing based off of these answers alone, but I would say that your stacking is most likely sx first. You don't show much care for conforming/fitting into a social dynamic and are very passionate and driven towards self expression. I'm not sure if you're sp or so blind since you did mention once not caring for practical matters in life (laundry and dinner etc), but if I had to choose there seems to be less so than sp, so your stacking may be sx/sp.

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    Holy shit, this is so interesting! I, of course, have my thoughts on this, but I'm super curious to hear what other people think! I won't spoil what I, tests and my friends have typed me or what I think I am or am not yet, cause that would just make it less fun 😁

    I'll also reply to some questions later.
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