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    Confused: INFJ or ISFJ? or completely different type?

    I am unsure of my type, I have gotten both on many tests. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


    0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
    -Female, 17. I do have depression and anxiety/social anxiety.


    1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
    -Not sure how to answer this, the link doesn't seem to work.

    2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
    -In my mind I wouldn't have much of an initial reaction except being slightly confused as to what's happening. My outward reaction would be to ask somebody else in the car what's happening and look around to gain some kind of perception of the situation. Then I might say something in an annoyed manner like, "Oh come on! We're going to miss the show".

    3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
    -I excitedly agree on going to the afterparty with them(slightly hesitant at first because I often feel overwhelmed in large crowds and feel sensory overload in crowded public areas), and at the party I would most likely keep myself sober to ensure we have a ride back home just in case.

    4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
    -I think about what my friend just said and how it differs from my own beliefs. I am not overly defensive, as everyone has their own opinions, but I would ask them why they might think that way, just to gain some insight into their beliefs. I may also state my own opinion and go on to explain why I feel the way I do about whatever it is.

    5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
    -I would keep to myself, minding my own business. I don't have much of an outward reaction to things that I disagree with or don't believe. I pay it little attention.


    6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?

    -Some of my most important values are (a bit cliche, but) honesty, loyalty, compassion/empathy, optimism, and perseverance/determination. I determined most of these values by considering what traits I respect in other people. These values can change depending on the situation, but for the most part they are pretty withstanding. For example, I understand it is not easy to be optimistic in difficult situations, therefore I don't expect optimism from others 100% of the time because we all have fluctuating emotions. Sometimes people are just having a bad day as well, so it's understandable.

    7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about your personality, what would it be? Why?
    -It is typically easy for me to read other people's emotions, and I am often quiet, analyzing other people in the room. I am also very interested in why other people think the way they do and I like to help other people solve their problems, getting to the root of things. and just being a shoulder to lean on. If I could change one thing about my personality, I would make it easier for me to open up to others, and not be so shy.


    8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
    -I often take my gut feelings into consideration because they tend to be right a lot of the time. They are often triggered when meeting people for the first time, seeing how we might get along or not. They are also triggered when somebody's behavior causes me to discern they are not stating their true intentions, and I often am able to tell when they are hiding something.


    9.What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?

    -I am often energized being around my friends, and I look forward to the time we spend together. I am also energized by partaking in areas of my own interest, like drawing, but that is more relaxing for me. I am typically always energized, and I become drained after spending long periods of time around others; mostly spending lots of time in crowded public places. I often become drained in these public places because of sensory overload, or it just tires me out. It's always nice coming home for the night to relax after a long day of being out.
    10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
    - I tend to repress my humor, or my thoughts on things unless asked because I am a very private person and I don't like being vulnerable with people I cannot fully trust. I also repress my emotions from others unless we are very close, it is very easy for me to talk about my emotions with my close friends. Another thing I struggle with is getting out of my head. I notice that it is often difficult for me to fully engage in the moment because my mind is constantly elsewhere or "in the clouds".
    Last edited by skywlks; 05-11-2019 at 05:36 PM.



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    u cant be a Ni Dom Mastermind Special Snowflake, Stuck it in your Mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skywlks View Post
    I am unsure of my type, I have gotten both on many tests. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
    I'll see what I can do.

    0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
    -Female, 17. I do have depression and anxiety/social anxiety.
    That's young, so most likely to see more of the dominant and auxiliary functions rather than the tertiary and inferior function. Anxiety is more common in Fi-dominants, although it happens in all types.

    1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
    -Not sure how to answer this, the link doesn't seem to work.

    2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
    -In my mind I wouldn't have much of an initial reaction except being slightly confused as to what's happening. My outward reaction would be to ask somebody else in the car what's happening and look around to gain some kind of perception of the situation. Then I might say something in an annoyed manner like, "Oh come on! We're going to miss the show".


    Looking for others to take charge makes it more likely for you to be an introvert. The confusion can stem from a lower thinking process (and a higher feeling process). The annoyance can be part of a few different processes. I could see inferior Te here as well.

    3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
    -I excitedly agree on going to the afterparty with them(slightly hesitant at first because I often feel overwhelmed in large crowds and feel sensory overload in crowded public areas), and at the party I would most likely keep myself sober to ensure we have a ride back home just in case.
    Again, fits for an introvert. Staying sober here could be because of a judging preference (IxxJs are generally control freaks).
    That said, as this is the end result of the thought process, there could be other things that might cause this kind of behaviour.

    4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
    -I think about what my friend just said and how it differs from my own beliefs. I am not overly defensive, as everyone has their own opinions, but I would ask them why they might think that way, just to gain some insight into their beliefs. I may also state my own opinion and go on to explain why I feel the way I do about whatever it is.
    This is generally how Fi-dominants operate. They are good listeners and tend to have this exact mental process. Fe-users tend to have a lot of trouble figuring out what they believe and will often completely forget while talking to someone with differing beliefs.

    5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
    -I would keep to myself, minding my own business. I don't have much of an outward reaction to things that I disagree with or don't believe. I pay it little attention.


    This fits well with an introverted stance. In behaviour this fits with IxFJ, but not in thought process. It's just non-confrontational, not like the Fe that doesn't know what it believes.

    6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
    -Some of my most important values are (a bit cliche, but) honesty, loyalty, compassion/empathy, optimism, and perseverance/determination. I determined most of these values by considering what traits I respect in other people. These values can change depending on the situation, but for the most part they are pretty withstanding. For example, I understand it is not easy to be optimistic in difficult situations, therefore I don't expect optimism from others 100% of the time because we all have fluctuating emotions. Sometimes people are just having a bad day as well, so it's understandable.
    Interesting. Honestly, that could fit with an Fe-user, especially at your age. If this is actually your process for coming to these values I'm keeping IxFJ open for you. Honestly, I'm getting a mixed picture for now, so we'll see if we can clear it up.

    7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about your personality, what would it be? Why?
    -It is typically easy for me to read other people's emotions, and I am often quiet, analyzing other people in the room. I am also very interested in why other people think the way they do and I like to help other people solve their problems, getting to the root of things. and just being a shoulder to lean on. If I could change one thing about my personality, I would make it easier for me to open up to others, and not be so shy.


    This fits well with Fe, although I have seen Fi-users that have similar experiences. This makes me lean towards Fe, although you are definitely introverted and I haven't seen any sign of Si or Ni yet, which should be present. In short: I'm leaning towards IxFJ for now, but INFP for example is a good possibility.

    8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
    -I often take my gut feelings into consideration because they tend to be right a lot of the time. They are often triggered when meeting people for the first time, seeing how we might get along or not. They are also triggered when somebody's behavior causes me to discern they are not stating their true intentions, and I often am able to tell when they are hiding something.
    This could definitely fit with the Ni as used by the INFJ. Ni looks for patterns and how things either fit with it or deviate from it. Ni and Fe work together that way. The whole phrasing fits with Ni+Fe too, so there's a point in that direction.


    9.What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?

    -I am often energized being around my friends, and I look forward to the time we spend together. I am also energized by partaking in areas of my own interest, like drawing, but that is more relaxing for me. I am typically always energized, and I become drained after spending long periods of time around others; mostly spending lots of time in crowded public places. I often become drained in these public places because of sensory overload, or it just tires me out. It's always nice coming home for the night to relax after a long day of being out.
    This again could be Fi, as Fi is the function that energizes you based on personal interests. On the other hand, Ni is pretty difficult to notice in yourself as it's just so normal for Ni-users. Activities like drawing can be very rewarding for INFJs for example, but it can be difficult for us to tell you why. This actually fits well with your description.

    10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
    - I tend to repress my humor, or my thoughts on things unless asked because I am a very private person and I don't like being vulnerable with people I cannot fully trust. I also repress my emotions from others unless we are very close, it is very easy for me to talk about my emotions with my close friends. Another thing I struggle with is getting out of my head. I notice that it is often difficult for me to fully engage in the moment because my mind is constantly elsewhere or "in the clouds".
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    This is actually very typical for INFJs. I was also constantly in the clouds, constructing complete fantasy worlds rather than engaging with reality.
    What actually tips me over the edge here is that you say that it's difficult to engage in the moment. This is actually classic for inferior Se.

    Overall there's kind of a muddied picture that leans towards INFJ for me. It's clear that you're smack in the middle of developing yourself and getting to understand yourself and this can make it complicated to get a good idea for how you actually are.

    So I'm saying INFJ as a working hypothesis and I would advise you to keep exploring it and try to get some certainty in five years. It's possible that there are some misleading clues here since you're still learning about yourself at your age.
    One thing though: INFP seems pretty unlikely from what I've read since your description of your intuition fits way better with Ni than with Ne. This also makes ISFJ less likely as their intuition is unlikely to really develop at your age.
    So this would leave us with INFJ or ENFJ as most likely options. ENFJ is also pretty unlikely with your description of how interaction with people tends to drain you.
    So overall, while the cognitive functions can be kind of sketchy, the overall picture I'm seeing fits best with INFJ.

    This means that I can't give you any assurances, but that INFJ does fit best with what you wrote down here.
    That's my verdict and I hope it helps you find your type.
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