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    Am I ISTP or INTP?

    Already posted here once, only one response suggesting I look into Ti related stuff. Now realising I'm Ti-dom, I need to clear things up a bit more.
    - My mom for sure is ISTP. So goddamn obvious, and she commented how we're both very similar in personality and many others would agree and have noted on it too. This kind of confirmed that I'm an IxTP.
    - Except she's mocked me so many times how I suck at machinery haha. She says I'm good with theories (suggested I study philosophy later on) but I'm super slow at learning how to work machinery based things. idk if this is stereotyping but eh
    - I do care about aesthetics and how things look. I'm very much aware of how aesthetically pleasing things have a positive effect on people/myself, thus I like to look good and like things to look good. (Some people think this is Se? idk)
    - I love debating w my ENTP friend. A lot of our time spent together is arguing and asking why. I'm more of the type to put things into planning and action. Kind of frustrating how he bounces off from one idea to another, we never have enough time to flesh things out.
    - Don't really care about confrontation. Whenever something I am not happy with happens, I immediately think about ways to confront them or the situation without wasting time. My ISTP mom thinks the same way, she's about action.
    - I've noticed I always twitch or have some body part moving when sitting still, and am always looking around or am spaced out, but shitty energy level.
    - Only sport I enjoy doing is figure skating lol. Recently got into it, really enjoy the similarish feeling of flying and how interesting of a sport it is. (Pretty + very athletic). I've always preferred individual sports over team sports, and despite having low energy levels and overall not being a sporty person, I'm good at individual fitness.
    - I also tend to think of what-ifs? a lot (again, this is what I mainly talk about with my ENTP friend. Always fun thinking about the future).
    - I like to get straight to the point when talking and give few examples or metaphors.
    - Always spacing out and thinking. I'm not really good at focusing on the present for long periods of time, it's exhausting. Also not good at focusing on details unless it's important to the context. This makes me doubt that I have auxiliary Se, but not too sure.

    idk how to give other examples. Any specific questions or examples feel free to say. Thanks.



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    @pockystick N>S for you. Maybe F>T too. Introvert is obvious yeah.

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    you are not complaining about your position in the society or being a misfit, therefore is impossible for you being a ISTP or INTP, Inferior Fe means being scared about being rejected, ISTP in the grip always will go into attention whore mode. therefore your Dom Function must be a Observer either Intuitive or Sensing or a Extraverted Decider either Te or Fe your type must Be either Te-Se ENTJ type, Te-Ne ESTJ type or ESTP, but im more leaned towards ESTJ Te-Ne, i can see Inferior FI on this "Don't really care about confrontation. Whenever something I am not happy with happens, I immediately think about ways to confront them or the situation without wasting time". "I've noticed I always twitch or have some body part moving when sitting still, and am always looking around or am spaced out, but shitty energy level." this could be Si, althought im not sure but your description about why you picked Skate sounds much more like Si rather than Se, Se is Objetive, Si is subjetive, whenever Se feels Sensory thing as it is Si picks sensory things from a subjetive perspective.

    You Could also be ENFP. Your functions are NE.Si.Te and Fi, in which order? I don't know you need to provide more Info about what do you Fear, that is, your biggest fears and that thing that has made u complain more often during your whole life, you look to the past, there is the problem, you look to the future and still the same Fear/Pain , pretty much this, that is your inferior functions so you can only have either ENFP or ESTJ personality according to the info that you has provided until now

    IPs= Fear of Being hated by the society/Social Misfit Complex = Fe or Te as Inferior
    EPs= Fear of Laws, Control and Details/ Conspirationist = Si or Ni as Inferior
    IJs= Fear of dissorder, Chaos and Missing information/ Paranoia = Se or Ne as Inferior
    EJs= Fear of being hated by Themselves/Impostor Syndrome = Inferior Ti-Fi

    You will fear 2 of them being a option more fearsome than the other option, The most fearsome will determinate your Type, the other One will determinate which is your other most used Function. Because, In fact Every type gives more priority to 2 Functions being the First and Third or First and second there is the standard Myer Brigs type with First and Second as Dominant but there is also First and Third as dominant Functions, this is what people calls Loopers or Jumpers so each type has 2 Subtypes.

    By example i pick the IP Option because is my biggest fear, so it means that i am IXXP and every other Type is discarted and my second Fear is Fear of dissorder and Chaos so that means that i am a Looper Because im Skipping my second Function because There is no one IP Having a controlling function in the middle (Ni and Si are controlling functions, Whereas Se and Ne are gatherer Functions, Control Fear Gatherer and Gatherer Fears Control) , yes i can use pretty good my second function, but I do not value it and I give more priority to my third function so i am either a Ti-Si INTP or Fi-Si INFP or a Ti-Ni ISTP or a Fi-Ni ISFP in that way you are reducing the options to 4 different possible types and it will be easier to deduce what your type is, after that you only have to figure out which of those 4 is your type

    Every Type can be Outgoing or Shy, what determinates if you are Shy or Outgoing is if your 2 Dom Functions are extraverted, Only E extraverted Types can go into Full Extrovert Mode Like Donald Trump but there is Also Introverted Ambiverts lets say a Fi-Ne INFP will be Ambivert neither Introvert or extravert. there is also Ambivert E lets say a ENFP with Ne-Fi will be another Ambivert and will be same as Extravert/Introvert Like the other INFP who is also an Ambivert. Also Only introverted Personality types can Go into Full Introvert Mode Lets Say A Fi-Si INFP will be the most Shy being that you will ever meet same goes for a TI-Ni ISTP or Ni-Fi INTJ
    Last edited by Some dude name; 06-11-2019 at 01:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some dude name View Post
    you are not complaining about your position in the society or being a misfit, therefore is impossible for you being a ISTP or INTP [...]
    What is this I don't even

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    OP: I'd be inclined to agree with @grumpytiger . But if you are an IxTP, you'll only accept it once it makes sense for yourself regardless of what anyone says, and if you are an INTP, you'll regularly question your type anyway, because you constantly come up with new angles on the same issue.

    Hang out a bit in the INTP place, and see if the atmosphere appeals to you, perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Lights View Post
    What is this I don't even

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    OP: I'd be inclined to agree with @grumpytiger . But if you are an IxTP, you'll only accept it once it makes sense for yourself regardless of what anyone says, and if you are an INTP, you'll regularly question your type anyway, because you constantly come up with new angles on the same issue.

    Hang out a bit in the INTP place, and see if the atmosphere appeals to you, perhaps.
    That is Inferior Extraverted Function, if you don't know what it is you must to determinate your type and consider another function as your dom Function, Because, Ti Inferior automatically says than your MOST WEAKER SPOT is FE, What is Fe?Politically Correct Behaviors like Mutual support, Sharing emotions with no regarding about logic, adapting to the behavior of the group so, as Inferior Function you will fear to that and those things will make you very angry or feel uncomfortable therefore, since Inferior Fe is a extraverted function and Dom Ti is a Introverted function INTPs feels like a misfit, or in other words Inferior Fe is a Nerd, don't you feel identified? deffinitely your inferior Function isn't Inferior Fe and therefore Ti isn't your Dom Fuction you should consider ENTP or ESTP, but anyways seeing what you have answered you seem more a feeler than a thinker and newbie in functions and MBTI Types
    Last edited by Some dude name; 06-12-2019 at 12:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some dude name View Post
    you are not complaining about your position in the society or being a misfit, therefore is impossible for you being a ISTP or INTP, Inferior Fe means being scared about being rejected, ISTP in the grip always will go into attention whore mode. therefore your Dom Function must be a Observer either Intuitive or Sensing or a Extraverted Decider either Te or Fe your type must Be either Te-Se ENTJ type, Te-Ne ESTJ type or ESTP, but im more leaned towards ESTJ Te-Ne, i can see Inferior FI on this "Don't really care about confrontation. Whenever something I am not happy with happens, I immediately think about ways to confront them or the situation without wasting time". "I've noticed I always twitch or have some body part moving when sitting still, and am always looking around or am spaced out, but shitty energy level." this could be Si, althought im not sure but your description about why you picked Skate sounds much more like Si rather than Se, Se is Objetive, Si is subjetive, whenever Se feels Sensory thing as it is Si picks sensory things from a subjetive perspective.

    You Could also be ENFP. Your functions are NE.Si.Te and Fi, in which order? I don't know you need to provide more Info about what do you Fear, that is, your biggest fears and that thing that has made u complain more often during your whole life, you look to the past, there is the problem, you look to the future and still the same Fear/Pain , pretty much this, that is your inferior functions so you can only have either ENFP or ESTJ personality according to the info that you has provided until now

    IPs= Fear of Being hated by the society/Social Misfit Complex = Fe or Te as Inferior
    EPs= Fear of Laws, Control and Details/ Conspirationist = Si or Ni as Inferior
    IJs= Fear of dissorder, Chaos and Missing information/ Paranoia = Se or Ne as Inferior
    EJs= Fear of being hated by Themselves/Impostor Syndrome = Inferior Ti-Fi

    You will fear 2 of them being a option more fearsome than the other option, The most fearsome will determinate your Type, the other One will determinate which is your other most used Function. Because, In fact Every type gives more priority to 2 Functions being the First and Third or First and second there is the standard Myer Brigs type with First and Second as Dominant but there is also First and Third as dominant Functions, this is what people calls Loopers or Jumpers so each type has 2 Subtypes.

    By example i pick the IP Option because is my biggest fear, so it means that i am IXXP and every other Type is discarted and my second Fear is Fear of dissorder and Chaos so that means that i am a Looper Because im Skipping my second Function because There is no one IP Having a controlling function in the middle (Ni and Si are controlling functions, Whereas Se and Ne are gatherer Functions, Control Fear Gatherer and Gatherer Fears Control) , yes i can use pretty good my second function, but I do not value it and I give more priority to my third function so i am either a Ti-Si INTP or Fi-Si INFP or a Ti-Ni ISTP or a Fi-Ni ISFP in that way you are reducing the options to 4 different possible types and it will be easier to deduce what your type is, after that you only have to figure out which of those 4 is your type

    Every Type can be Outgoing or Shy, what determinates if you are Shy or Outgoing is if your 2 Dom Functions are extraverted, Only E extraverted Types can go into Full Extrovert Mode Like Donald Trump but there is Also Introverted Ambiverts lets say a Fi-Ne INFP will be Ambivert neither Introvert or extravert. there is also Ambivert E lets say a ENFP with Ne-Fi will be another Ambivert and will be same as Extravert/Introvert Like the other INFP who is also an Ambivert. Also Only introverted Personality types can Go into Full Introvert Mode Lets Say A Fi-Si INFP will be the most Shy being that you will ever meet same goes for a TI-Ni ISTP or Ni-Fi INTJ
    i have decided i am estj-a and look up to thatcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Lights View Post
    What is this I don't even

    --

    OP: I'd be inclined to agree with @grumpytiger . But if you are an IxTP, you'll only accept it once it makes sense for yourself regardless of what anyone says, and if you are an INTP, you'll regularly question your type anyway, because you constantly come up with new angles on the same issue.

    Hang out a bit in the INTP place, and see if the atmosphere appeals to you, perhaps.
    Problem with mbti is the more you learn about it, the more you are more conscious on manipulating results and reactions (or any psyche related thing; especially self identified). I used to think I was an INTJ, because preferring colourful language and being able to adhere to a plan and deduct some sort of outcome = INTJ in the newbie's mind. After reading into INTP and stopped giving two flying fucks about the ugly-and-never washed in their life-but-smart-nonetheless stereotype I thought oh cool sounds pretty fitting. i mean personally there are way too many intjs. if i really were estj id find the drive to make a camp to get rid of most of em


     

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