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    Infj, Intj, or Intp?

    I've been reading about MBTI on and off for about 3 years now, and, for some reason, I've been having an extremely difficult time typing myself. If you guys can help at all, I'd really appreciate it. (My enneagram is 5w4)

    So, originally I got infj, but now I get mostly intj or occasionally intp. Introversion and intuition are at ~75%. It's the t,f and p,j where I'm having trouble. I've studied the 8 functions (Ne, Ni, etc.), but I can't seem to get a handle on what exactly I am. I can recognize them in other people (I think) but not myself.

    Where I get most stuck is on the thinking and feeling. I can't even imagine making a decision (at least an important one) based on feeling (I've been watching Agents of Shield and ... they're driving me nuts. Do people really act like that?), but I do tend to include (or at least acknowledge) how things will affect others and can easily read the people I am close to.

    However. I'm unsure as to whether or not this has to do with the fact that I grew up in an emotionally tense and explosive environment. That could be how and why I learned to read people, so as to avoid emotional (and occasionally physically abusive) outbursts. I also tend to be distant and ignore my emotions. This has come up a lot recently, even with my best friend of several years. She says she feels like she doesn't really even know anything about me because I'm so closed off.

    I also believe I am an hsp. I've read about that too, and it can affect how strongly emotions are felt (It has to do with the chemical receptors in the brain. I don't remember exactly, but, basically, the brain has more sensation receptors and, because emotions can cause physical sensations, it tends to amplify them). Outer information (especially noise) is also overwhelming.

    I would say I'm very open minded. If someone's point of view or opinion bothers me, I don't show it, I just listen. I tend to listen more than talk (Like, I could never say as much as is written here at once). I can predict how things will turn out and am right most of the time (unless the prediction is very pessimistic). I dislike not having anything to work towards, but I like being able to do what I want. Too much stress or emotionally charged situations tend to make me cry (I hate how often I cry). I show I care about people by doing things with or for them.

    Thanks for the help. And, if you need any more information (like how I at 5'4" walk as fast as my 6', power-walking entj friend), just ask.

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    I found these questions from another post and thought they might help:

    1. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favorite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
    Probably swearing. Worrying that we'll be late and what will happen as a result of that.
    Most likely expressionless. It would depend on who I'm with. If someone else is driving the car and they can handle it, cool. If I'm driving or the driver is freaking out and not doing anything to actually fix the problem (or doing something that won't actually help), I'd handle it all the while worrying about being late.

    2. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the after-party that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
    I don't want to go. Too loud. Done with people.
    Try to get them not to go so I can go home. If they won't, go somewhere quiet to talk with one of the friends until we leave or sit in the car and read (So I can make sure they're safe). If they drank, kick them to the back seat and drive myself.

    3. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
    Mulling it over.
    Nothing. I was just at an overly loud concert and probably dragged to an after party. By this point I'm done with people. (And probably nothing anyway.)

    4. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
    I don't know. If there was an example, I could probably tell you.

    5. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
    Honesty (no lying, cheating, etc.). Waiting for marriage before having physical intimacy.
    I was raised as a Christian, so I assume that has something to do with them. I hate lying/cheating. It feels almost physically dirty. As for waiting until marriage, my parents advised me to wait, and I see the wisdom in it. Physical intimacy deepens the attachment to the person and can make rational decision making difficult.

    6. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about your personality, what would it be? Why?
    I see myself as more levelheaded and rational than most people. I am also highly observant (unless I'm deep in thought) and notice things most others don't. I don't do that reaction thing most other (at least women) do when they're told something (good or bad honestly). I tend to just sit there blank faced.
    Procrastination and fear keeping me from acting(though those are more habits and .. I guess feelings? than personality traits).
    So I could actually get stuff done.

    7. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
    I listen to them.
    With people (I've met people that I didn't like for seemingly no reason and later I found out that they were abusive, compulsive liars, etc.) and future outcomes.

    8. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
    a) Ones where I get to do things and am not forced to follow the slow pace of others. Talking with my xnfp best friend, she's very deep and isn't stuck on the surface of things (honestly I don't think she ever goes there). Figuring out a problem I've been working on. Building stories.
    I believe it's the mental stimulation.
    b) Ones with lots of people and/or noise. Hanging out with a group of friends. When I'm the emotional support for my best friend (I don't mind, I just get tired). Sleepovers. Walking downtown. Having to work with incompetent people. Emotional environments. Ones where other people are in my house, not to mention my room.
    Too much physical stimulation, stupidity, and I don't like people in my space.

    9. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
    A lot. I don't voice even a tenth of what I think, partially because I don't want to and partially because my thoughts/impressions of things tend to be nebulous images and difficult to put to words (It's easier with writing and I've recently found that metaphors help). In outward behavior, I don't know. I can't think of anything that I repress in front of others. I tend to keep things internalized, thoughts and physical reactions.

    10. How do you think others view you? How do you wish they did?
    It depends on who it is.
    Strangers/acquaintances see me as reserved. Probably rude for not saying much.
    Friends see me as the weird friend with bad ideas that should not be carried out. A little nerdy. Also basically a guy. And scary. Not sure if they think I'm smart or stupid.
    My best friend, Mom, and brother see me as closed off, but kind. Really smart and understanding. Tries to give solutions to people's problems when they're not yet ready for them. Super nerdy. Is there for them to talk to when they need, but is basically incapable of giving any kind of acknowledgement or emotional support as a response. Actually having emotions, just doesn't show them.
    I wish people saw me more like my best friend an Mom do. People seem to like me, but they tend to ignore me. I was in college for 3 years before I finally made a friend (I think he's an xnfp too... They seem to like me for some reason.), I don't know if it's 'cause I was teacher's pet in every class (I kid you not), they just didn't know how to interact with me 'cause I'm not from the country, or what (I was told toward the end by one of the girls that I looked angry all the time and needed to smile more, so maybe they were all just scared of me). I want to be seen as intelligent. That's the biggest one for some reason. I can't stand people criticizing or dismissing my intelligence, and I hate being seen as dumb.

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    Well, most likely Int*. Being that you said that 'emotionality/providing too much emotional support' is draining for you, I highly doubt you're infj - as they tend to enjoy being supportive of people in that way. You also mentioned repressing your emotions quite a bit which seems indicative of a thinker type. As far as the p/j - I can see both but I get more of a perceiver vibe, perhaps because of what you said about wishing you didn't struggle with procrastination and fear so that you can get 'stuff done'. (Most intjs I know are very driven). I get the impression you're more of a laid-back, behind the scenes, and reserved sort of person, which makes me think intp.
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    I do think INFJ, what do you think of Ni-Ti loop?

    INFJ Ni-Ti loop: An INFJ in an Ni-Ti loop attempts to suppress their emotional side, shutting themselves off from others and becoming unable to share their feelings with those around them. They will become extremely withdrawn and private, attempting to become analytical and logical without employing their feeling side. They will attempt to view everything in a logical light while shutting off their tendency to consider things in the light of the feelings and values of those around them. In addition, they will repress their feelings
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    Thank you for responding :)
    Can you provide more information as to why you think infj?

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    INTX as well. Maybe INTJ? INTP should be more prone to procrastination, but I believe you are young and might not have found what drives you yet.
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    Probably INTJ or INTP. You should look deeper into their differences in cognitive functions.

    I'm kinda leaning towards INTJ because they can take in lots of info via their Ni, make rational and practical decisions with Te (demonstrated by your answer in the 1st question), and you mull over information by comparing it to your own feelings to arrive at conclusions (this is Fi).

    Wouldn't say you're INFJ because you seem to prioritise your own feelings above others' feelings or group harmony (Fi compared to the Fe in INFJ).
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    Thank you.
    I've been reading articles on the differences between the intx types, and I seem to lean heavily toward intj.
    I should be able to nail this down soon. I brought in my best friend to help figure me out, haha.


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