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This is a discussion on [INxP] ¯ Do I think or feel? within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Originally Posted by myexplodingcat If you quote my posts with your answers to a few of the questions I've posted ...

  1. #31
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by myexplodingcat View Post
    If you quote my posts with your answers to a few of the questions I've posted here, I'll come straight back and analyze your type for you. I like doing this--it's like solving a puzzle for an INTP. So, please, don't hesitate.
    So I am a pseudo-INTP-ish thing, but I basically have the same problem the OP does [to the point where all my friends think I'm INTP, but I may have changed who I am because of who I want to be and whatnot]. I think I was 53-47 in the last quiz I took.
    First question you asked:

    A magical fairy has just landed on your computer. (She's magical, okay? She's not one of those non-magical fairies.) She's going to give you two options. Which of these would you rather have?

    1. Have someone acknowledge your intelligence, listen to your ideas, think things through, and ask questions that could help improve your ideas. And with this option, you also get to have a good reputation with the people around you. Your lifespan is also extended for one year (during which you will not need to work, as you'll keep finding hundred-dollar bills in the street) as long as that year is used for study in one of your interests.

    2. Have someone understand your feelings, be there for you, and be able to each know that the other cares for the things in the universe and their needs, and love you for who you are, whether as a friend or romantic interest. (This person will also live exactly as long as you do, so that neither of you has to deal with the other's death.) You will easily see yourself in a good light.

    Now... I know they both sound good, but which sounds like paradise?
    Neither sound like paradise [which does not exist]. I'd rather have the second, though I am worried that it will never happen. ...

    We all come up with a variety of goals. Some goals are easy, some goals are fun, some goals get accomplished, some don't, and some drive us nuts. But which goals of yours get you into trouble? Which make you end up doing something that doesn't feel like your usual self, yet you really want to do? Which end up awkward or make you feel like you're floating in midair and not on your home turf?

    1. The goals that involve goals. When I want to get something big done, maybe directing people to do something. It doesn't sound like me, but I end up in odd little situations in which I have these weird whims, like I want to actually get something done.

    2. The goals that involve my reputation and dealings with other people. I want to satisfy and please others. I'm not too keen on the trendy kind of stuff, but I might go to a little bit of effort to make a few friends and fit in. Just don't expect much, because if something doesn't make sense, I am NOT going along with it. And that gets me in trouble... strangely.
    I have to say probably 1 to this question. I -want- to satisfy and please others, a lot, but at the same time that's only the others that I've accepted as part of my peer group, so to speak. For the vast majority I just don't care. Both are acceptable, really. ... I'm not sure if I've understood the second question. [?]

    Of course, I am interested in the puzzle you're making, so I have kind of a vested interest in fouling it up, which makes it a little difficult to tell if I'm being entirely autonomous, but I try. :)

  2. #32
    INTP - The Thinkers

    I, too, am in doubt about that. I got F in the test, but it was a close call, and actually I feel more like a thinker.. I will try to find the answer in this thread!

  3. #33
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Welcome to the INFP club :)

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  5. #34
    INFP - The Idealists

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    I wanna have knowledge and intelligence. I want to specialize human behavior and why people do things and such. I don't want to have an ordinary life like everyone else i wanna actually do something which involves a lot of action. When i go out i look at random people and always think to myself 'are they happy with their life' 'if they could restart it, i wonder what they would change' etc.


    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
    We had a maths assignment for the people that do a certain type of maths and the assessment was really hard and i thought i did bad. But i got the scores back and the teacher was happy with me because i was one of the best in the class and barely any one did good in the whole year level of students who did the subject. I felt real good, the last time i remember being happy. Wasn't happy because the teacher was or anything. I was happy because i did something right and i beat a lot of people to do it.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?
    I usually feel inferior when my friends keep on giving me shit busting my balls because they know i am too weak to do anything physically. I always hope that i can do something and no matter how close the friends are if they give me shit i always think of hurting them or killing them in some way. So what makes me inferior is the inability to do anything in a situation.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
    I can't really remember the last time i made a decision about something important, but i always think about what would happen if i made this decision and such things like that.



    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
    Me and my closest two friends were chilling out and we were just fucking around saying random shit. We do this all the time and these are the times where i have the most fun, cause i can just say the most fucked up things and we would just fuck around and have a laugh about it.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
    Well when i wanna learn something new i usually want to try it out and see how it works and such and then i would go on the internet look up all kinds of things about it and see how i can improve my performance/knowledge in the thing i want to learn.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
    Really disorganized, i sometimes to school on test days with no pens or anything. There is oranges laying in my bedroom. If i were to say I'm about a 80% Perceiving Type.


    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
    Errr the only reason i like group work is so that i don't have to do much work to do. I stay true to me.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
    I just usually watch people speak but then i would sometimes say something to see the response some people would show. Like i know something about a person, they don't know i know and i would pretend like i don't know it and say something related to it just to see how they would react to it.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
    I just do it in the moment, i don't really think. I just do it.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
    People always forget about me and i don't get invites unless it's a big group thing and i am seen but i would go with my friends that called me out since i can watch the show later. But i don't really like going out, i just go out cause i don't wanna miss anything fun.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
    Depressed. I take it out on the family. Like i need to get the anger out of me so i do it and sometimes i regret it later. I hate stress, i feel like dying most of the time when I'm on it.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
    People that aren't true to themselves (I do see the irony here.) People that are mean to others in order to boost their own confidence.
    However I don't get offended when people are being logical, or at least I'm able to be less hurt, when I realize that they're right. Logic comforts me.


    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
    Yes, i like having deep and meaningful conversations with people that are philosophical, i like talking about goals, music. I'll say it now i can't usually have a normal conversation with people like most people can, often when i have long chats with people it's usually deep and philosophical shit and i talk about the past how i miss something etc.

    18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
    Ooohh this is hard, i think a lot in my head and i pay attention to every aspect of my life so i can't really answer this now.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
    My friends that know me well enough would call me goofy and a clown because of the shit i say and do. In class i shout shit out and make the class laugh but that's if i know the people in it. My other friends that are just normal friends just think I'm a quiet person and such. I kinda lack common sense when it comes to things like how to act and all that shit and i do something and people really go 'you do that' like it's common sense not to do it.

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    I feel like playing chess or checkers with my friends or even poker something that involves strategy. I don't care if anyone is way better than me, i just want some competition. Wanna advance my knowledge and wanna advance my thinking process.

  6. #35

    Quote Originally Posted by vel View Post
    Both thinking and feelings functions are about values, as well as N/S functions for that matter. They represent that the person will value out of their environment, what the person will pay most attention to. The T vs F articles linked in my signature explains this point - values of justice (Te) and truth (Ti) vs values of sympathy (Fi) and empathy (Fe).
    I would switch these actually. Fe is more likely to deal with Sympathy (In common usage, sympathy is usually making known one's understanding of another's feelings or values) because it is the Extroverted Feeling function. Where as Fi would be more likely NOT to make known any feelings of empathy as it is an Introverted Feeling function. Fe = We and Fi = I.

    Keep in mind however that it is that E/I that makes a person more likely to sympathize/Empathize and not the Feeling function itself. The Feeling functions actually have nothing to do with emotions.

  7. #36
    INFP - The Idealists

    I remember reading that if you're unsure, not knowing are you INFP or INTP, think about how you make big decisions in your life. During the process, feelings and logic are being taken into account, but what is the final step in decision making? Logic or feelings?

    For exaple, if you're thinking should you leave your job or not, first you might think you have a good salary. On the other hand, you dislike your boss. But you not really sure is the job right for you. Then, there will be the final, crucial step:

    a) You quit your job because it just feels like a right thing to do, and believe that satisfaction with you job is more important than salary.

    b) You decide you will stick to it for a while, because the job pays well, and you wouldn't be sure that you'll find another job soon.

    Something like that.
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  8. #37

    I think first then feel however I'm not very confident in my logic and I seem overconfident in what I feel is right. :P

  9. #38
    Unknown

    One of the things about INFPs and INTPs is that both can be fascinated by the logic behind math and science. It is possible, I hear for an INFP to major in Mathematical sciences and really like it. There is a point, though, where using logic is totally overkill to them. The INTP, however, usually sees no limit to how much logic should b used.

    Also another thing to keep in mind. When you are a Ji - dominant type (IxxP), you should be able to know almost instantly whether you are Ti or Fi dominant. These people usually know what is right or wrong for themselves and since they feel or rationalize their own values and principles confidently,

    A Ji type usually has more trouble figuring out if he or she is a sensor or intuitive rather than thinker or feeler. If one knows he or she is definitely an intuitive, between-the-lines type. Perhaps it is intuitive impressions that dominate one's personality and thus one should consider an Ne or Ni dominant personality.

    Let's say I'm an INXJ. I may have a lot of trouble trying to figure out whether I'm a thinker or feeler because INFJs usually seek emotional validation from others (Fe), however they want to internally work out logic under their own terms (Ti) so as not to screw up their internal map (Ni). INTJs want to see empirical evidence in the real world to support their logic (Te) and in addition, they want their experiences (Ni) to define who they are so that they know what they do is right (Fi).

    This thread is about INXPs though, not INXJs. Just remember that IXXPs are always trying to conclude things for themselves. The key word is THEMSELVES. Because they do this, they place utmost importance on letting other people make their own decisions too.
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  10. #39
    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Even though Feeling technically doesn't have anything to do with emotions, it would be a major oversight not to notice that Feelers seem to be guided by their emotions more often than Thinkers.

    I believe both Thinkers and Feelers are capable of analyzing a matter, applying logic to it, and coming to an understanding of it. However, I think in decision making matters, Feelers are more likely to let their emotions affect their decision. A Thinker will try to disregard their emotions altogether when making a decision. - This doesn't mean they are always successful, though. Certain situations, like romantic love situations, can easily cause a person of any type to make a decision based on emotions.

    The other main way to tell between T and F is whether you are more interested in systems or people. T types are more likely to be interested in math and science, F types are more likely to be interested in humanities. For example, I'm a classic INFP in that I have little interest in most topics which have no human element.

    It's not always easy to discern whether you're a T or an F. But I would try to analyze whether you allow feeling to guide your decisions and whether you are more interested in systems or people, over all.
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  11. #40
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Classic 'problem' I notice... <v<

    It's good the mbti's defines as a preference, and not a mutual exclusion deal. Thinkers have feelings and Feelers can be rational. Still, can be tricky to figure out what 'works best'.
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