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This is a discussion on What's my MBTI type ??? O u O within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Originally Posted by Greyhart Out of people I am friends with ISFP is the single most creative person I've met. ...

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhart View Post
    Out of people I am friends with ISFP is the single most creative person I've met. While me and my INFP bff can spend hours discussing how awesome it would be to do something, she does and creates something.

    As for art, it's more about a talent and much more importantly skill gained over the time. At first everyone HAS to use references, as you begin to understand anatomy better you can move on from it. But many even professional artists still use references for hard to visualize poses. I don't think it's function related. Fi dominant also doesn't mean that you are mother Theresa towards feelings of others. fi and more fi

    As an xSFP I honestly realte to 98% of everything said about them except for the "kindness" and "ability to notice other people's emotion" stuff tbh, so I guess I'm an unhealthy Fi (?)

    EDIT: I don't relate to xSFP's dislikeness towards conflict, because I tbh like conflict, because I think it's like breaking down puzzles and fixing it again, and breaking it again, and so on, and it's fun! :D I mean real conflict though, not the "nagging" conflict, that one I hate lol
    Last edited by elsaa; 06-10-2015 at 05:18 AM. Reason: edit ESFP
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Romantic View Post
    My sister is an ESFP and she's like that as well :D Also, is that you on your avatar? You're really pretty.
    Thanks! :D

  3. #23
    ISFJ

    Quote Originally Posted by elsaa View Post
    As an xSFP I honestly realte to 98% of everything said about them except for the "kindness" and "ability to notice other people's emotion" stuff tbh, so I guess I'm an unhealthy Fi (?)

    EDIT: I don't relate to xSFP's dislikeness towards conflict, because I tbh like conflict, because I think it's like breaking down puzzles and fixing it again, and breaking it again, and so on, and it's fun! :D I mean real conflict though, not the "nagging" conflict, that one I hate lol
    Probably ESFP- Se over Fi. I'm sorry I'm using my sister as an example again, but she's loves to argue and will not back down from confrontation. I think it's mostly IxFPs who doesn't like conflicts, I've found that ExFPs often strive on conflicts (not emotional ones, but arguments about values and stuff).
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  5. #24

    Quote Originally Posted by elsaa View Post
    I don't knowww, online quizzes said I'm ENTP / ENFP but then I'm like

    nooooooo!!

    And everything I do is a mess, I guess (?) like I have a hard time choosing what to do, and I'm lazy 24/7 idk is that a Ne function? e u e?
    ENTP???? Lol no way you have Fi, at least ENFP has Fi too

    HAHAHAHAHA I have a hard time to choose and I'm lazy too, but this is not because of Ne ;)

  6. #25
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    I would guess ENTP or ESTP. I don't see you as a feeling type at all.

  7. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capellia View Post
    I would guess ENTP or ESTP. I don't see you as a feeling type at all.
    Sameee

    But if im ESTP then I'll be Ti Fe and Fe is basically deciding based on other's opinion!! My whole life the one thing I cant do is exactly that lol but then again I'm not at all F which is weird because my logic is definitely not subjective :(

    As selfish as I am, I would agree I'm selfish and I dont mind people saying that because I am .-.

    Idkkkk

  8. #27

    Quote Originally Posted by elsaa View Post
    Sameee

    But if im ESTP then I'll be Ti Fe and Fe is basically deciding based on other's opinion!! My whole life the one thing I cant do is exactly that lol but then again I'm not at all F which is weird because my logic is definitely not subjective :(

    As selfish as I am, I would agree I'm selfish and I dont mind people saying that because I am .-.

    Idkkkk
    Ti is introverted and thus "subjective".

    I don't see Ti>Fe in your answers. Fi-Te, yes. Your answers are almost completely about "I like", "I dislike" opinions.

    Copypasta from neighboring threads.

    I was thinking possibly Se-Ni too. The way I can have an inner vision and set a goal (Isn't that Ni?) but it is overcome by instant gratification (Isn't that Se?) but I'm not that experienced at typing though. What makes you think Se-Ni?
    That seems like a correct assessment.

    But then the way I jump around on the internet isn't that a sign of intuition especially Ne?
    Nah, everyone does it. :P

    Si isn't memory. Memory is a one of most basic brain functions.

    Si from point of Si dom is this.

    Si in NPs is something like this (although INxP health worries a sort of over-exaggerated there)

     

    INxP
    Many of the concerns of people center around issues of health, usefulness / harmfulness, reliability, and this is usually evident. They are often like walking medical guides - know what should be taken and when in the event of sickness. These questions serve as the foundation of their self-esteem, so in these matters they are not afraid to go too far: winter swimming, training, jogging in the morning, drinking specialized products for promotions of health. Often attracted to alternative medicine. Anything that can improve their health holds their interest. They are very weary of the slightest dangers to their physical well-being: when it's cold - they are the first to notice the need to dress warmer. May ask to reduce speed when someone is driving too fast. Any threats to their well-being are unacceptable - even if one screw comes loose they see it as a potential threat to their lives and refuse to move in a way. Always check machinery and equipment for the most trifling reasons. Never confide "packing their parachute" to someone else. If they have any health problems, for them this is a serious blow to self-esteem. In active defense of this function will seek to prove their physical soundness, to be the first to undertake physical hardships (say, the first to carry heavy furniture during community gatherings). In passive defense will say: "Yes, I am old and sick." All that can be used to confirm their physical soundness, will be given priority. So they like to exercise as a way to prove that they are still capable. The most terrible punishment for them is to lay helplessly ill in bed in the presence of other people. They like to be confident in the medical plan of the organization for which they are working. They often become hostages of the word "beneficial" especially if it relates to health. Usually demonstrate a lot of care about social security, debt to the people by the government. They fear of getting into a situation where there is no one around to give a glass of water. To convince themselves that their health is ok, for them it is desirable to periodically somehow "feel" their body strength: hiking, rock climbing, marathons, triathlon, etc. If the test is passed, then their physical well-being is considered to be fine.

    ENxP
    These sociotypes always move in the direction of places where there is physical comfort and constancy, pleasant sensations, and cannot deny themselves in this. Where they are physically comfortable, such places are good, even if they are very expensive. Love fine food, massage, rubbing. Having found one place where they feel comfortable, such as a restaurant - could go there for dinner across town. Avoid places which lack all of his needed physical facilities. Food lovers, slaves to their preferences and habits. If they have a sweet tooth, will consume sweets by kilograms. Often determines the state of their physical being by the words of others, easily suggestible by this. Sometimes can try to recreate at home the elements of the place where they felt most comfortable physically. Quickly become accustomed to the "good" and this becomes their weakness in the future - without it they cannot endure. Suggestible by authorities on issues of health - if he is told that he needs to have something treated, he will easily believe it. In this context, can fall prey to "snake oil physicians". May forget to eat on time or to take medicine, to sleep, thus are in need of caring parents or spouses.


    Ne is something like 1 2 3 4 (joke but kind true too)

    For ISFP vs INFP think... I like to use Lorde and Bjork since I like them both.
    These Fi posts are from INFPs 1 2 3

    Ti 1 2 3 4 (Ti describing an image) 5 (and all the way down)

    This could be useful https://personalitycafe.com/cognitive...l#post11771858 but is not certain.

    Tert Fe (I agree with mostly)
     
    For this person it is important that everyone is positively predisposed towards him. He does not like ambiguity in this matter and will strive to clarify the situation: "Lets get this straight - do you respect me or not?" Even small changes can bring about these clarification attempts: different facial expression, gaze, and so on. Often with age he becomes a good psychologists as it allows him to keep up his self-esteem. Fixed on the attitude of certain people and ignores the "public opinion". Very fond of social recognition: honor, glory, respect, diplomas, regalia, etc. For the sake of good relations can even work for free. Can offer to help out of sense of camaraderie. If there is someone in his surrounding who shows negative feelings towards him, it decreases his self-esteem. In active defense, he will try to win the good attitude of this person at any cost, in passive defense, on the contrary, may admit to behaving poorly. If positive relations do not exist, he can try to fix them at any price, or conversely, fall into avoidance upon realizing the impossibility of changing anything. Fond of flattery, is ready to support any opinion as well as come to compromise only to keep the positive predisposition towards himself. If he does not agree with someone, can conduct conversation very diplomatically. Communicating with people of this type one can feel internal tension associated with fear of evoking negative response. Often they will think ten times before saying anything, as if it is an important task. Move up the career ladder often due to their ability to be considerate of others.
    Last edited by Greyhart; 06-10-2015 at 06:19 PM.

  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhart View Post
    Ti is introverted and thus "subjective".

    I don't see Ti>Fe in your answers. Fi-Te, yes. Your answers are almost completely about "I like", "I dislike" opinions.

    Copypasta from neighboring threads.



    These Fi posts are from INFPs 1 2 3

    Ti 1 2 3 4 (Ti describing an image) 5 (and all the way down)

    This could be useful https://personalitycafe.com/cognitive...l#post11771858 but is not certain.

    Tert Fe (I agree with mostly)
     
    For this person it is important that everyone is positively predisposed towards him. He does not like ambiguity in this matter and will strive to clarify the situation: "Lets get this straight - do you respect me or not?" Even small changes can bring about these clarification attempts: different facial expression, gaze, and so on. Often with age he becomes a good psychologists as it allows him to keep up his self-esteem. Fixed on the attitude of certain people and ignores the "public opinion". Very fond of social recognition: honor, glory, respect, diplomas, regalia, etc. For the sake of good relations can even work for free. Can offer to help out of sense of camaraderie. If there is someone in his surrounding who shows negative feelings towards him, it decreases his self-esteem. In active defense, he will try to win the good attitude of this person at any cost, in passive defense, on the contrary, may admit to behaving poorly. If positive relations do not exist, he can try to fix them at any price, or conversely, fall into avoidance upon realizing the impossibility of changing anything. Fond of flattery, is ready to support any opinion as well as come to compromise only to keep the positive predisposition towards himself. If he does not agree with someone, can conduct conversation very diplomatically. Communicating with people of this type one can feel internal tension associated with fear of evoking negative response. Often they will think ten times before saying anything, as if it is an important task. Move up the career ladder often due to their ability to be considerate of others.

    Then I'm definitely 100% not a Fe lol xD

    So I guess I'm a xSFP (?) all that's left is to determine Fi first or Se first

    I enjoy the spotlight, but then I love to retreat back into personal space for awhile, I mean I dont like being alone but that's because if a serial killer attacked me, if there's someone else, I could sacrifice them first lol, nothing emotional xD

    But as an ISFP I am almost always confrontational as I don't like it when someone says that, I would object instead of staying quiet so tbh idk .-.

  10. #29

    Quote Originally Posted by elsaa View Post
    Then I'm definitely 100% not a Fe lol xD

    So I guess I'm a xSFP (?) all that's left is to determine Fi first or Se first

    I enjoy the spotlight, but then I love to retreat back into personal space for awhile, I mean I dont like being alone but that's because if a serial killer attacked me, if there's someone else, I could sacrifice them first lol, nothing emotional xD

    But as an ISFP I am almost always confrontational as I don't like it when someone says that, I would object instead of staying quiet so tbh idk .-.
    Introvert doesn't mean doormat :P You seem very E to me. At least online.

    You can try checking inferior Te vs inferior Ni which feels more like you:

     
    Ni:

    People of these types prefer environments where they experience no inner discomfort, contradictions with themselves, where ideas and principles are shared without requiring an explanation. If this is not achievable, then they simply move somewhere else. They like people who know how to raise their spirits, to create harmony in their soul, so that at heart they feel good. Suggestible by elevated moods and optimism of others, do not like to be in company of those whose spirits are low. May use alcohol or other substances to quiet down the soul searching meanwhile believing that everyone does the same thing, , which can lead to alcoholism. Their main requirement for environment is that it should not cause conflict with their ideals and principles. If this is not possible then he leaves saying "this is not my world, I do not find this existence interesting." Cannot live in conditions when the external situation "hurts the soul," brings up an inner "itch" that cannot get scratched. If the place is comfortable, then it automatically everyone there is accepted as their own, since they share his beliefs, and thus such place already has all the prerequisites to do and create what he sees fit. Therefore, likes to be accepted "warts and all" creating a microcosm of "own" people who accept each other's weaknesses and live with it. Treats such world and such people as "his clan", but can position himself as the "godfather." Existing in such microcosm he will put it in opposition with the "alien" worlds that do not share his principles. This person is aware of the need to maintain inner harmony, but rarely succeeds in this task, often swerves off the course and heads somewhere else. To keep it he needs someone who will intervene and extinguish these "flashes", who will reason through them and calm him down, something like: "Why are you so wound up? Everything is fine, it's good. " Poorly predictable in his behaviors for this reason, you never which mood will hover over him today and what he will do for this reason.

    Te:
    The ESI is attracted to people seen as knowledgeable, as well as truthful and willing to share that knowledge, in matters seen as interesting and useful to the ESI towards achieving productivity and efficiency. Reliable information rather than the finished analysis is what attracts the ESI: facts and explanations, not answers limited to the conclusions, which they tend to see as mere opinions. For the same reason, the ESI avoids people who are inclined to give out unreliable, or simply untruthful, information.

    The ESI tends to be unsure the productivity of his actions and unconsciously relies on others to give him impressions and advice about the best, most productive ways of doing things. He has difficulties measuring how much work he has done, whether it is sufficient, and how much it is actually worth. The individual admires people who are aware of the productivity of their actions and are always trying to do something rational and worthwhile.

    ESIs are very keen to accumulate information on matters they find useful or just interesting, but they also need the company of persons with whom they can exchange evaluations as to the accuracy and usefulness of that information.


    Could help
     




    Oh, and https://personalitycafe.com/articles/...disorders.html <- examples of unhealthy tendencies in types. You can check which one of the loops you could see yourself falling into. Fi-Ni (ISFP) and Se-Te (ESFP) loops would be very different.
    Last edited by Greyhart; 06-11-2015 at 04:48 PM.

  11. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhart View Post
    Introvert doesn't mean doormat :P You seem very E to me. At least online.

    You can try checking inferior Te vs inferior Ni which feels more like you:

     
    Ni:

    People of these types prefer environments where they experience no inner discomfort, contradictions with themselves, where ideas and principles are shared without requiring an explanation. If this is not achievable, then they simply move somewhere else. They like people who know how to raise their spirits, to create harmony in their soul, so that at heart they feel good. Suggestible by elevated moods and optimism of others, do not like to be in company of those whose spirits are low. May use alcohol or other substances to quiet down the soul searching meanwhile believing that everyone does the same thing, , which can lead to alcoholism. Their main requirement for environment is that it should not cause conflict with their ideals and principles. If this is not possible then he leaves saying "this is not my world, I do not find this existence interesting." Cannot live in conditions when the external situation "hurts the soul," brings up an inner "itch" that cannot get scratched. If the place is comfortable, then it automatically everyone there is accepted as their own, since they share his beliefs, and thus such place already has all the prerequisites to do and create what he sees fit. Therefore, likes to be accepted "warts and all" creating a microcosm of "own" people who accept each other's weaknesses and live with it. Treats such world and such people as "his clan", but can position himself as the "godfather." Existing in such microcosm he will put it in opposition with the "alien" worlds that do not share his principles. This person is aware of the need to maintain inner harmony, but rarely succeeds in this task, often swerves off the course and heads somewhere else. To keep it he needs someone who will intervene and extinguish these "flashes", who will reason through them and calm him down, something like: "Why are you so wound up? Everything is fine, it's good. " Poorly predictable in his behaviors for this reason, you never which mood will hover over him today and what he will do for this reason.

    Te:
    The ESI is attracted to people seen as knowledgeable, as well as truthful and willing to share that knowledge, in matters seen as interesting and useful to the ESI towards achieving productivity and efficiency. Reliable information rather than the finished analysis is what attracts the ESI: facts and explanations, not answers limited to the conclusions, which they tend to see as mere opinions. For the same reason, the ESI avoids people who are inclined to give out unreliable, or simply untruthful, information.

    The ESI tends to be unsure the productivity of his actions and unconsciously relies on others to give him impressions and advice about the best, most productive ways of doing things. He has difficulties measuring how much work he has done, whether it is sufficient, and how much it is actually worth. The individual admires people who are aware of the productivity of their actions and are always trying to do something rational and worthwhile.

    ESIs are very keen to accumulate information on matters they find useful or just interesting, but they also need the company of persons with whom they can exchange evaluations as to the accuracy and usefulness of that information.


    Could help
     




    Oh, and https://personalitycafe.com/articles/...disorders.html <- examples of unhealthy tendencies in types. You can check which one of the loops you could see yourself falling into. Fi-Ni (ISFP) and Se-Te (ESFP) loops would be very different.
    No you are right! I am very E even in real life! xD

    But if im ESFP my tertiary one is Te and Im not even moderately organized


     
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