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This is a discussion on Dual INTP/ INTJ within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; I can effortlessly see how both might relate to these. The INTP part comes from my use of what I ...

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    Dual INTP/ INTJ

    I can effortlessly see how both might relate to these. The INTP part comes from my use of what I think is Ti. I recognize I've been doing it most recently because I've been going through a difficult time trying to revise my understanding of Myers Briggs objectively and really learning the proper implications and definitions so I can see how I fit and don't fit against the criteria of each type. I can't think straight and I bam my head into the wall trying to put up a good understanding on the logic of the subject. However, others say what I'm recognizing as Ti may be a critical parent shadow function of the INTJ. My INTJ understanding on the other hand, is that I work on a basic refining of my person and theories I enjoy like parallel universes and chaos effects (Ni). My Ne is weaker than my Ni which may explain why I don't believe I am an INTP as I can't relate to the idea of searching for knowledge or exploration. Some have suggested I'm an INTJ suffering from cognitive loop and an "in need of development of my auxiliary function (Te).Apparently my need to change myself and the way I go about it can be described as an Ni-Fi loop. I see what can get me to be a better person that is ideal for what I want and can change my values based on that, but I often sometimes circumvent any action related to that. This usually makes me angry and leads me to feel like I'm never making progress and see another way to refine myself to be better and do the same thing. I'm also terrible at using Fe harmony and its given me less friends over the years and left me feeling pretty alone.

    If there is anything you want to know, I'll answer questions.



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    Unknown Personality

    What exactly do you mean by refining your theories yet not relating at all to searching for knowledge or exploration? I do not mean this in a confrontational way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maker of helmets View Post
    What exactly do you mean by refining your theories yet not relating at all to searching for knowledge or exploration? I do not mean this in a confrontational way.
    I mean I'm not interested in the ways in which INTps utilize Ne. I personally don't work with it. The term Exploration refers to the name of Ne. A far as redefining definitions, I like to work with concepts and change them as I learn new rules for their application and make sure its based upon agreed upon information. For example, learning about the Myers Briggs was like this. I started out with the basics and by finding more and more agreed upon information, I've significantly sharpened my knowledge of the misconceptions I had before.

    *Also. hanks for following me. I've been working through MBTI wit myself and others so I apologize if everything seems different from where we were headed in my first post ever..

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    No apologies required : ). You are "at the helm" of whatever direction you want to go in XD
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    Thanks, all that knowledge paid off. I'm probably an INTJ. But I'm curios, what type are you? Your picture has nothing on it or above it for me.
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    I think your Ne not Ni.
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    Unknown Personality

    I'm INFJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamon83 View Post
    I think your Ne not Ni.
    Really, oddly enough its one of my lowest functions and my use of Ni is higher. What is your definition of Ne.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamon83 View Post
    I think your Ne not Ni.
    Wow, strong post. I really like how solid your arguments are !



    OP, what are your hobbies ? How structured and disciplined are you in your work/projects ? I think it's a good way to differentiate INTP and INTJ. INTPs looks like butterflies to me. They hop on a project, then after a few days/weeks, they get distracted and they hop on something else. For example, me and a friend (INTP) of mine was really interrested by powerlifting. We both trained a lot and intensively. However, I was following a strict plan and diet, I was waking up early in the morning to fit my trainings in my schedule and I had a coach to help me improve technical aspect of the sport. Him, on the contrary, was doing a different routine every week. He didnt want to do competitions (even though he was very talented). He had no discipline. He trained when he wanted to.

    I tend to be obsessive about my projects, trying to master every aspect of my current passion. My INTPs friend seem more curious than serious about their project/hobby/work. They let their inspiration guide their work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsqc View Post
    Wow, strong post. I really like how solid your arguments are !



    OP, what are your hobbies ? How structured and disciplined are you in your work/projects ? I think it's a good way to differentiate INTP and INTJ. INTPs looks like butterflies to me. They hop on a project, then after a few days/weeks, they get distracted and they hop on something else. For example, me and a friend (INTP) of mine was really interrested by powerlifting. We both trained a lot and intensively. However, I was following a strict plan and diet, I was waking up early in the morning to fit my trainings in my schedule and I had a coach to help me improve technical aspect of the sport. Him, on the contrary, was doing a different routine every week. He didnt want to do competitions (even though he was very talented). He had no discipline. He trained when he wanted to.

    I tend to be obsessive about my projects, trying to master every aspect of my current passion. My INTPs friend seem more curious than serious about their project/hobby/work. They let their inspiration guide their work.
    As far as hobbies, I have few things I'm really interested in. My life lately has really just been understanding the way the world works and I've been quite devoted to that. My interactions with the world and trying to positively affect it have always never worked out even if I was given the opportunity. I thought if I knew how things worked a bit better, it would be easier to deal with. I've been working through temperaments and other ways of life to understand people but realized I didn't understand myself which could have been the problem. I still enjoy reading theory based things and fictional stories about peoples interactions with certain things but besides that, my hobbies are pretty slim.

    As far as projects, I can be pretty focused. The only reason I'm sometimes seem undisciplined in what I do is because I'm tired or my focus has slipped to this issue. I can lose things often though. I've never really had the ability to go after the things I wanted, I can be very impatient once I've realized a possible want for me or a skill. An example is art. When I was younger I pictured writing a book. I asked my teacher what it took and tried hard to do that. I wrote possible chapters and was hopeful until I realized how much learning of literacy, money, and other skills I was disheartened and quite believing that I would never be able to do that, ad I've had many similar experiences such as this. I tried to better myself in many different ways by improving upon qualities I already have and learn skills and ways to do this. I'm confidant for awhile, but rejection, failure, and reaffirmations from the world always pushes me backwards. I've always wanted to do muscle training in the past year as getting older is forcing me to feel being stronger and healthier is a good way to live, but the change is just so abrasive and fruitless I can't maintain.
    Last edited by CopperrHareV; 11-08-2015 at 02:56 PM. Reason: Typing on tablet


     
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