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This is a discussion on Why am I so different from ISTPs? within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Originally Posted by Phoenix I wasn't too fair to dear Mr. Butt. It's mainly his strung-out descriptions of the individual ...

  1. #11
    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I wasn't too fair to dear Mr. Butt. It's mainly his strung-out descriptions of the individual functions that I take issue with. I love this though: "One ISTP friend displays a poster of an orangutan with the caption, "If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you." Suffice it to say that ISTPs are by nature free spirits."
    Actually the individual functions are the one thing I did like about Joe Butt's descriptions.

    The problem I have with TypeLogic is the "overall" descriptions. These types of descriptions are flawed because:

    1. They fail to take into account non-MBTI-type-related factors that influence one's personality.
    2. They don't work so well for people who can see themselves behaving as many different types. Many times multiple type descriptions can fit someone equally well.
    3. Not every person with the same type is going to fit the description, in terms of interests or other behaviors that have non-type-related influences.

  2. #12
    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    What makes you suspect your husband to be a 9? And wow, an INFJ and an ISTP... how is that working? Are you happy in your marriage?

    An INFJ enneagram 5. Okay, so my seemingly unique combination of MBTI and enneagram isn't uncommon. My ENFJ can do the 'unemotionally aware of emotion' thing really well, for what it's worth. It's not the default state though, lol.

    If the flaming-cat-bmx-berm thing sounded like your hubby, then wow, just wow! That's really good to know. :D What is he like? Is he into the same things you are?

    To the poster who said I could be borderline, yeah..... it's a possibility. I see traces of myself in all the type descriptions, some more than others. Being a 9 sx 'merger' might help explain that though.
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    Many questions...

    Happy? When he's being honest with me I am. He's developed a few trust issues in me. But he seems to be doing better now. I'm watching. It probably helps that my 5 makes me a little less attached to my emotions and I have a weak F - especially when he decides to be honest with me in the cold ISTP way. We are not remotely into the same things. He's into working all day, and I'm into him spending time not-working with me. Sounds depressing, but it's really not that bad. I've actually met another INFJ on here who has an ISTP for a husband. I wouldn't recommend it though.

    What you said about the cat thing sounded like something he would say. He would never do that... He's really into exaggerating everything though. Sometimes he makes things up (and acts like they really happened) just to get a laugh. He's very expressive - talks with his hands and such. He's definitely an introvert, but a lot closer to being an extrovert than I am.

    I'm pretty sure I was the one who said borderline S/N. You have a few traits listed in your first post that sounded slightly Nish. And I'm not sure yet what makes me think he's a 9. He tested as a 5, but didn't agree with any description. Plus I'm far more objective than he is, so I doubt it. I think 9 was close to the top for him if I remember correctly. I believe he only read a short description of that one, but seemed to think it was a possibility. I could be remembering incorrectly though - it could have been the 6 that I'm thinking of.

  3. #13
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    It would be hilarious if he had been doing the whole 'merging' thing with you, and if that's why he scored a 5, lol. Not very likely though, since he would have to spend more time with you for that. He's probably not a sx variant, even if he is a 9.

    I would never light a cat on fire, and that's why it's so damn funny (to me). I can be misunderstood by my humor at times, which I don't care about but it gets sticky when I'm socializing with the contacts of my ENFJ buddy. Makes me feel like anything I do will reflect badly on her, which makes me distance myself from the whole thing, which makes me robotic, which reflects badly on her. Best to stay away from situations like that.

    I'm sorry your husband doesn't give you the attention you deserve. Have you considered counciling? Best to start while the marriage still has some backbone imo.

    Thanks for answering my many questions!
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Eh, he's getting better at it on his own. Slowly but surely. I'm not worried.

    I do understand his humor though. It's definitely not the same as mine, but he can make me laugh regardless.

  6. #15
    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Welcome to the club. I think it’s less about knowing and more about reading too much into type descriptions. I don’t know of any descriptions better than those at bestfittype.com. They are a collage of interviews with confirmed types.

    You do make an assertion that is not type related when alluding to being emotional. MB theory is based on cognition which means that emotions do not factor in. We all have emotions, but thinking types are more prone to suppressing them. As for your description, I see myself that way as well. So what are you thinking that makes you different from other ISTPs?

  7. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I believe myself to be an Enneagram 9 sx variant and an MBTI ISTP. The descriptions just fit. But when I communicate with others of that type (ISTP), we are just different. Then I start questoning my type, I reanalyze the type descriptions, and I come to the same conclusions all over again.

    So, why is this? I understand that everyone is an individual, but it's just too much of a rub to ignore.

    Allow me to give a bit of background. I was raised by two very different parents. One was very nearly a saint and the other was an abusive drug addict. After observing my father's choices and behavior and seeing the impact and pain it caused my mother, I decided that was NOT for me. Alcoholism is on both sides of my family and so I have never drank, knowing my genetic makeup makes me predisposed to addiction. Same with other drugs and substances. It seems a strong trait of the ISTP to at least drink, if not drug as well. Even if I could hypothetically get drunk with no risk for addiction I wouldn't. The thought of losing control of myself makes my flesh crawl. I don't see any benefit from it.

    ISTPs seem to be unemotional, for lack of a better word. I'm fairly comfortable with most emotions, though I'm awkward and prone to expressing them inappropriately or not at all. I genuinely care about how people around me feel. I am good at ferreting out others emotions (Translation: I pester 'til they spill) and then I am sympathetic, offer solutions if I can (which I'm learning can be a messy business), buy them a coffee or something and after we've talked about it I help them forget about it either by being a dumbass or by engaging in an activity they like. This is natural for me, but I know how bad it feels to hurt, and maybe that's where this trait comes from. Who can say?

    When I'm rude I know it since I tend to be polite by default. When I am impatient or short with my children I know it and though I often choose to allow myself to express it I always feel guilty later.

    I hate being alone, I love being at home with my family. I find socializing tiring. All of my friends have interesting quirks, some would call them downright odd. I tend to give people a chance when others won't, but it's not charity, I genuinely like and appreciate these people. If I see good character and if I enjoy their company I'll continue to seek them out long after my curiosity is satisfied. But if they're flakey, forget it. They're immediately cut from my life. I am loyal and on it, and damn it, I expect the same!

    I have entire worlds in my head, and I write about them (dungeons and spells and fighting, mythic stuff). My writing is best when it's subjective and in the mind of the character. I write with great emotional depth. That is my gift in writing. Maybe someday I'll be published, maybe not, but it doesn't matter. I write for myself and the pleasure of creating.

    I love music, it's a very huge part of my life. Life would be grey without it!

    These are the ISTP descriptions I like:

    ISTP - On A Team
    ISTP

    The above are much better than Joe Butt... seriously, what does that man smoke?!?

    I feel like the weirdest ISTP on earth.
    I'd say that sounds a lot like me, and I'm pretty comfy in my ISTP role.

    Even if I could hypothetically get drunk with no risk for addiction I wouldn't. The thought of losing control of myself makes my flesh crawl. I don't see any benefit from it.
    I used to see it this way up to age about 19. Eventually, I found out I enjoyed life more when I let go of my need to control everything about me. I'm still not a regular drinker, but I do enjoy the occasional single malt, and once every few months I do get pretty massively drunk along with some good friends.

    ISTPs seem to be unemotional, for lack of a better word.
    I think that's pretty much up to your background and what situations you've been in. As a middle child, I was always a mediator, so I quickly grasped the concept of reading people. It took me a few years to learn to communicate what went on inside my head to others, though.

    When I'm rude I know it since I tend to be polite by default.
    Yep, that's me too.

    I hate being alone, I love being at home with my family. I find socializing tiring. All of my friends have interesting quirks, some would call them downright odd. I tend to give people a chance when others won't, but it's not charity, I genuinely like and appreciate these people. If I see good character and if I enjoy their company I'll continue to seek them out long after my curiosity is satisfied. But if they're flakey, forget it. They're immediately cut from my life. I am loyal and on it, and damn it, I expect the same!
    Except for me not hating to be alone, that sounds a lot like me.

    So yep, you could probably pass for an ISTP at least as easily as I do...


     
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