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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Why am I so different from ISTPs?

    I believe myself to be an Enneagram 9 sx variant and an MBTI ISTP. The descriptions just fit. But when I communicate with others of that type (ISTP), we are just different. Then I start questoning my type, I reanalyze the type descriptions, and I come to the same conclusions all over again.

    So, why is this? I understand that everyone is an individual, but it's just too much of a rub to ignore.

    Allow me to give a bit of background. I was raised by two very different parents. One was very nearly a saint and the other was an abusive drug addict. After observing my father's choices and behavior and seeing the impact and pain it caused my mother, I decided that was NOT for me. Alcoholism is on both sides of my family and so I have never drank, knowing my genetic makeup makes me predisposed to addiction. Same with other drugs and substances. It seems a strong trait of the ISTP to at least drink, if not drug as well. Even if I could hypothetically get drunk with no risk for addiction I wouldn't. The thought of losing control of myself makes my flesh crawl. I don't see any benefit from it.

    ISTPs seem to be unemotional, for lack of a better word. I'm fairly comfortable with most emotions, though I'm awkward and prone to expressing them inappropriately or not at all. I genuinely care about how people around me feel. I am good at ferreting out others emotions (Translation: I pester 'til they spill) and then I am sympathetic, offer solutions if I can (which I'm learning can be a messy business), buy them a coffee or something and after we've talked about it I help them forget about it either by being a dumbass or by engaging in an activity they like. This is natural for me, but I know how bad it feels to hurt, and maybe that's where this trait comes from. Who can say?

    When I'm rude I know it since I tend to be polite by default. When I am impatient or short with my children I know it and though I often choose to allow myself to express it I always feel guilty later.

    I hate being alone, I love being at home with my family. I find socializing tiring. All of my friends have interesting quirks, some would call them downright odd. I tend to give people a chance when others won't, but it's not charity, I genuinely like and appreciate these people. If I see good character and if I enjoy their company I'll continue to seek them out long after my curiosity is satisfied. But if they're flakey, forget it. They're immediately cut from my life. I am loyal and on it, and damn it, I expect the same!

    I have entire worlds in my head, and I write about them (dungeons and spells and fighting, mythic stuff). My writing is best when it's subjective and in the mind of the character. I write with great emotional depth. That is my gift in writing. Maybe someday I'll be published, maybe not, but it doesn't matter. I write for myself and the pleasure of creating.

    I love music, it's a very huge part of my life. Life would be grey without it!

    These are the ISTP descriptions I like:

    ISTP - On A Team
    ISTP

    The above are much better than Joe Butt... seriously, what does that man smoke?!?

    I feel like the weirdest ISTP on earth.
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    But when I communicate with others of that type (ISTP), we are just different.
    How are you different from the ISTPs you communicate with? The description you gave of your own background doesn't necessarily rule out ISTP.

    And Joe Butt is indeed full of shit.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    My husband is ISTP, and you sound a lot like him. I'm suspicious of him being a 9.

    But you sound to me like your N is a little more developed. But you seem to have studied it enough to know you are still ISTP.

    People vary, I suppose.

    Personally, I'm a weird INFJ because of my enneagram. It's like I'm completely aware of my emotions, but I can turn them off whenever necessary. I can be attached and disattached from them at the same time... if you understand that...

    So maybe your enneagram or other aspects of your personality play in as well. This is, of course, entirely subjective and based on my own personal observations of myself though.

    Joe Butt's description of me was amazing. But maybe he's closer to my type and doesn't understand yours well...

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    ESFP - The Performers

    I've taken the Myer Briggs personality test a few more times, and I scored an INTJ more than twice----But my T and J is only slightly expressed, so at times I'm more NF dominant than NT sometimes; Such as when it comes to creating things, I'll rather experiment on feeling and experimenting over thinking and being more analytical; Using proven methods and using idealizations from past experiences?

    You could be a border-line; Not everyone is the same.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MannyP View Post
    How are you different from the ISTPs you communicate with? The description you gave of your own background doesn't necessarily rule out ISTP.

    And Joe Butt is indeed full of shit.
    Mainly my stance on substance abuse, but also maturity and morality. Not that they aren't moral creatures, but we appear to be on completely different planets.

    "Hey, let's go light a couple of cats on fire and line our berm with 'em. Then we'll jump it on our bmx bike while drinking Jack Daniels and smoking a joint, at the same time, and post it online! That would be a wicked follow up to the threesome I posted last weekend, ha ha ha ha. If you don't like that idea GTFO pansy!"

    I'm joking of course, blowing it massively out of proportion... can't help myself. :P

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Mainly my stance on substance abuse, but also maturity and morality. Not that they aren't moral creatures, but we appear to be on completely different planets.

    "Hey, let's go light a couple of cats on fire and line our berm with 'em. Then we'll jump it on our bmx bike while drinking Jack Daniels and smoking a joint, at the same time, and post it online! That would be a wicked follow up to the threesome I posted last weekend, ha ha ha ha. If you don't like that idea GTFO pansy!"

    I'm joking of course, blowing it massively out of proportion... can't help myself. :P
    FWIW, I don't think any of those things are non-ISTP.

    Remember that MBTI type is just one aspect of personality. People of the same type can still be very different.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Mainly my stance on substance abuse, but also maturity and morality. Not that they aren't moral creatures, but we appear to be on completely different planets.

    "Hey, let's go light a couple of cats on fire and line our berm with 'em. Then we'll jump it on our bmx bike while drinking Jack Daniels and smoking a joint, at the same time, and post it online! That would be a wicked follow up to the threesome I posted last weekend, ha ha ha ha. If you don't like that idea GTFO pansy!"

    I'm joking of course, blowing it massively out of proportion... can't help myself. :P
    Yeah, you're like my ISTP husband.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
    My husband is ISTP, and you sound a lot like him. I'm suspicious of him being a 9.

    But you sound to me like your N is a little more developed. But you seem to have studied it enough to know you are still ISTP.

    People vary, I suppose.

    Personally, I'm a weird INFJ because of my enneagram. It's like I'm completely aware of my emotions, but I can turn them off whenever necessary. I can be attached and disattached from them at the same time... if you understand that...

    So maybe your enneagram or other aspects of your personality play in as well. This is, of course, entirely subjective and based on my own personal observations of myself though.

    Joe Butt's description of me was amazing. But maybe he's closer to my type and doesn't understand yours well...
    I wasn't too fair to dear Mr. Butt. It's mainly his strung-out descriptions of the individual functions that I take issue with. I love this though: "One ISTP friend displays a poster of an orangutan with the caption, "If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you." Suffice it to say that ISTPs are by nature free spirits."

    What makes you suspect your husband to be a 9? And wow, an INFJ and an ISTP... how is that working? Are you happy in your marriage?

    An INFJ enneagram 5. Okay, so my seemingly unique combination of MBTI and enneagram isn't uncommon. My ENFJ can do the 'unemotionally aware of emotion' thing really well, for what it's worth. It's not the default state though, lol.

    If the flaming-cat-bmx-berm thing sounded like your hubby, then wow, just wow! That's really good to know. :D What is he like? Is he into the same things you are?

    To the poster who said I could be borderline, yeah..... it's a possibility. I see traces of myself in all the type descriptions, some more than others. Being a 9 sx 'merger' might help explain that though.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Bear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I believe myself to be an Enneagram 9 sx variant and an MBTI ISTP. The descriptions just fit. But when I communicate with others of that type (ISTP), we are just different. Then I start questoning my type, I reanalyze the type descriptions, and I come to the same conclusions all over again.

    So, why is this? I understand that everyone is an individual, but it's just too much of a rub to ignore.

    Allow me to give a bit of background. I was raised by two very different parents. One was very nearly a saint and the other was an abusive drug addict. After observing my father's choices and behavior and seeing the impact and pain it caused my mother, I decided that was NOT for me. Alcoholism is on both sides of my family and so I have never drank, knowing my genetic makeup makes me predisposed to addiction. Same with other drugs and substances. It seems a strong trait of the ISTP to at least drink, if not drug as well. Even if I could hypothetically get drunk with no risk for addiction I wouldn't. The thought of losing control of myself makes my flesh crawl. I don't see any benefit from it.

    ISTPs seem to be unemotional, for lack of a better word. I'm fairly comfortable with most emotions, though I'm awkward and prone to expressing them inappropriately or not at all. I genuinely care about how people around me feel. I am good at ferreting out others emotions (Translation: I pester 'til they spill) and then I am sympathetic, offer solutions if I can (which I'm learning can be a messy business), buy them a coffee or something and after we've talked about it I help them forget about it either by being a dumbass or by engaging in an activity they like. This is natural for me, but I know how bad it feels to hurt, and maybe that's where this trait comes from. Who can say?

    When I'm rude I know it since I tend to be polite by default. When I am impatient or short with my children I know it and though I often choose to allow myself to express it I always feel guilty later.

    I hate being alone, I love being at home with my family. I find socializing tiring. All of my friends have interesting quirks, some would call them downright odd. I tend to give people a chance when others won't, but it's not charity, I genuinely like and appreciate these people. If I see good character and if I enjoy their company I'll continue to seek them out long after my curiosity is satisfied. But if they're flakey, forget it. They're immediately cut from my life. I am loyal and on it, and damn it, I expect the same!

    I have entire worlds in my head, and I write about them (dungeons and spells and fighting, mythic stuff). My writing is best when it's subjective and in the mind of the character. I write with great emotional depth. That is my gift in writing. Maybe someday I'll be published, maybe not, but it doesn't matter. I write for myself and the pleasure of creating.

    I love music, it's a very huge part of my life. Life would be grey without it!

    These are the ISTP descriptions I like:

    ISTP - On A Team
    ISTP

    The above are much better than Joe Butt... seriously, what does that man smoke?!?

    I feel like the weirdest ISTP on earth.


    You seem a typical card carrying Bear ISTP. Perhaps even a PS Mechanic.

    Try the Perseus System Poll &/or the Paragon Test. Perseus is my own designed more sophisticated classification scheme than the standard Keirsey and MBTI.

    https://personalitycafe.com/general-p...em-poll-3.html

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I took the Paragon and scored E=2 I=10 S=7 N=5 F=6 T=6 J=6 P=6 NaN. I'll go over this later since I'll have it stored in this thread and my device is running out of power, lol. Thanks for suggesting the Paragon, I have never seen it before.
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