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This is a discussion on Please help me type myself. Fi-Se (ISFP) or Ti-Se (ISTP) ? within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Originally Posted by itselly ISFP's inf function is Te. Idk if I get it correctly, but shouldn't ISFPs (Te inf) ...

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    ENTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by itselly View Post
    ISFP's inf function is Te. Idk if I get it correctly, but shouldn't ISFPs (Te inf)
    get really bossy and blunt when they're really sad,depressed or broken?
    No. The way ANY function expresses depends on every person. Inferior function can be expressed in multiple ways however, in general it will be weaker than other functions. Your Te shows in the way you learn and collect information. You also seem to be eager to understand your own functions (collecting information to use it - Te rather than collecting for the sake of collecting - Ti).

    The way you describe depression is simply how it works. It has nothing to do with functions. Depressions feels that way even if you use Fe-Ti or Ne-Si. It can also cloud your judgement of your functions because it weakens them by making everything bleak and pointless.
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    @itselly

    Considering you're extremely aware of your own emotional state and verbalize them much better than an ISTP would, that's another thing that leads to me thinking you're ISFP.

    And yes you did describe inferior Te and how it sometimes manifests in ISFPs. Doesn't look the same for everyone. Generally speaking, both types might look similar on the surface but beyond that I think there are huge differences in how the inferior function for both types manifests and why. Inferior Te may make unhealthy ISFPs uncharacteristically arrogant and bossy, whereas inferior Fe might make unhealthy ISTPs uncharacteristically overemotional while simultaneously obsessed with logic. It really depends on the individual. Personally, I think the reason why it's sometimes hard to tell which inferior function you have is because both types experience a disinterest with sensory stuff when they are in the grip. Depression, quiet, disappointed. Both SPs feel that.

    However enneagram might influence this. Do you know yours? If you have an 8 in your trifix, this might shed some light on why you get aggressive and bossy when you're not in a good spot.

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    Also I have an ISFP friend and when she's not in a good spot, she doesn't get bossy. She just isolates herself and doesn't really talk to anyone. If she does speak, she sounds dead. Angry? Nope. She sounds more apathetic than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    I dunno, that just sounds ... human. I'm the same way when I'm depressed. I mean, that's kinda what depression is: Loss of hope in the future, loss of interest in your favorite activities, loss of faith in yourself. I would be more interested in what triggers the depressions, and what you lose in the process.

    Are you depressed right now?

    Yes! One of them is something I prefer not to talk about, but If I want to say it indirectly, I can say that there is something about me (not physical) that I don't like. Sometimes I try to change it or forget about it but I can't. So that makes me feel lonely! However, I keep to myself about it & I deal with it myself.

    The other issue is that I got a few bad grades...in some really important courses. & now I have to wait for my other grades but I don't think my other grades are any better. I'm really hopeless & depressed because of it.

    Actually, I don't even like what I'm studying. But it's something kinda good and my family seems to like it.
    I know I don't really like it, but I still want to continue it. I'm afraid of failure. I don't want to go for something else, even if it's something I'm passionate about...I'm not brave enough for that.
    So I want to improve in what i'm studying.
    I feel trapped! I feel stuck in this situation!

    My kinda bad grades are making me disappointed. Cuz I got these grades in "very very" important courses!


    I guess it's these two! There might be other minor factors too! Idk I'm just confused about my depression!
    Last edited by itselly; 01-10-2016 at 12:11 PM.

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    Sounds like you're bored with whatever it is that you are studying, but are mostly doing it because you might not want to disappoint your family. Feel free to correct me if I'm off the mark.

    I dunno. But it does sound a lot like you're more concerned about your grades because you're subconsciously worried that your folks might be upset. Which is completely understandable, assuming that's the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturnian Devil View Post
    Sounds like you're bored with whatever it is that you are studying, but are mostly doing it because you might not want to disappoint your family. Feel free to correct me if I'm off the mark.

    I dunno. But it does sound a lot like you're more concerned about your grades because you're subconsciously worried that your folks might be upset. Which is completely understandable, assuming that's the case.
    Yes! You nailed it! I guess you're right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by itselly View Post
    Yes! You nailed it! I guess you're right!
    I guess your post about that kind of hit home for me because I used to be too worried about keeping the peace that I'd sacrifice my own needs. All that did was make me unhappy in the long run, but then I started doing what I wanted to do. It's hard to just rebel like that sometimes so I understand your dilemma.
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    Yeah it's hard. & I think @Saturnian Devil , you're so brave for doing that and going for what you're interested in!

    Sometimes I want to go for a big change & do what I want to do! But when it comes to taking a step and actually doing it, I get scared.

    Cuz although I don't really like what I'm studying, I can't forget about past and how hard I tried for it.
    I can't forget about my family, relatives & friends. I don't want to disappoint them & I don't want them to question me in their head!

    Also, I don't want to "leave and quit it" due to bad grades or because I "have to"! Then I'm a loser!

    That's why I'm upset! It's been a while, so I'd rather continue what I've already started!

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    ISFP - The Artists

    Quote Originally Posted by itselly View Post
    Thanks alot @Prada, @Coyote & @Saturnian Devil for answering & helping me! Now I'm kind of sure I'm ISFP.

    But I have one more question. It's about inferior function.

    ISFP's inf function is Te. Idk if I get it correctly, but shouldn't ISFPs (Te inf)
    get really bossy and blunt when they're really sad,depressed or broken?
    The Te comes out more when we are cornered, or forced into decisions we are not ready to make, or when too much is going on, and --again--we feel cornered. Otherwise, yeah, I go into myself.

    But on the other hand, the stress-reaction of ESFPs would be to shut down more than to get all bossy, intense. Some of this also depends on things like upbringing, age, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferroequinologist View Post
    The Te comes out more when we are cornered, or forced into decisions we are not ready to make, or when too much is going on, and --again--we feel cornered. Otherwise, yeah, I go into myself.

    But on the other hand, the stress-reaction of ESFPs would be to shut down more than to get all bossy, intense. Some of this also depends on things like upbringing, age, etc.
    So you suggest that I might be ESFP?


     
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