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This is a discussion on What determines order in a function stack? (Assistance in finding one) within the What's my personality type? forums, part of the Personality Cafe category; Ok great! If you have any more questions just let me know :)...

  1. #21

    Ok great! If you have any more questions just let me know :)
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  2. #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    Ok great! If you have any more questions just let me know :)
    Would being an ISFP, in theory, be a problem if I was a 7w6 social wing?

  3. #23

    No the enneagram is a different system even though there are some correlations between the two.

    Types characterized by introverts (4, 5, 6, 9) and extraverts (2, 7, 8 )
    •Intuitives (3, 4, 5) and sensors (6)
    •Thinkers (5, 8 ) and feelers (2, 4, 9)
    •Perceivers (3, 6, 7, 9) and judgers (1, 8)

    Ne and Se correlates to 7
    6 can correlate to any mbti type/function

    Myers-Briggs / MBTI & Enneagram Correlations

    Personality Types: Enneagram and Myers Briggs Type Correlations - Enneagram and Myers Briggs

    MBTI-Enneagram correlations

    Enneagram, Myers-Briggs/MBTI, & the Inferior Function: Healthy Type Correlations
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  5. #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    No the enneagram is a different system even though there are some correlations between the two.

    Types characterized by introverts (4, 5, 6, 9) and extraverts (2, 7, 8 )
    •Intuitives (3, 4, 5) and sensors (6)
    •Thinkers (5, 8 ) and feelers (2, 4, 9)
    •Perceivers (3, 6, 7, 9) and judgers (1, 8)

    Ne and Se correlates to 7
    6 can correlate to any mbti type/function

    Myers-Briggs / MBTI & Enneagram Correlations

    Personality Types: Enneagram and Myers Briggs Type Correlations - Enneagram and Myers Briggs

    MBTI-Enneagram correlations

    Enneagram, Myers-Briggs/MBTI, & the Inferior Function: Healthy Type Correlations
    Are the test for the ennegram any more accurate than the test for the MBTI? I asked this question as while the two systems seem connected, I don't often do 7 behaviors besides just being impulsive generally. Should I be looking by multiple tests or just seeing what feels right as I do have my own problems that I'm not sure if it is related or unrelated.

  6. #25

    I personally think the enneagram tests are a bit more accurate than the mbti tests. But again they're just starting points. Then you probably are not a 7. You should take multiple enneagram tests and see which three types you consistently score the highest in. You also need to figure out what your basic fear is, basic desire, what negative childhood message you received, how you act when stressed, and how you act when in a growth state.

    This site lists numerous free online enneagram tests:

    Personality Types: Free Enneagram Tests - Enneagram and Myers Briggs

    Basic fear:
    type 1- of being bad, imbalanced, defective, corrupt
    type 2- Of being unloved
    type 3- of being worthless
    type 4- of having no identity or significance
    type 5- of being helpless, incompetent, or incapable
    type 6-of being without support or guidance
    type 7- of being trapped in pain and deprivation
    type 8- of being harmed, controlled, and violated
    type 9- of loss, separation, and fragmentation

    Basic desire:
    type 1- to be good, to have integrity
    type 2-to feel love
    type 3-to feel valuable
    type 4- to be themselves
    type 5- to be capable and competent
    type 6- to have guidance and support
    type 7- to be satisfied and content
    type 8- to protect themselves
    type 9- peace of mind and wholeness

    unconscious negative childhood message:
    type 1- It's not okay to make mistakes
    type 2- It's not okay to have your own needs
    type 3-It's not okay to have your own feelings and identity
    type 4- It's not okay to be too functional or too happy
    type 5- It's not okay to be comfortable in the world
    type 6- It's not okay to trust yourself
    type 7- It's not okay to depend on anyone for anything
    type 8- It's not okay to be vulnerable or trust anyone
    type 9- It's not okay to assert yourself

    Under stress each type acts like another number:
    type 1 acts like: moody and irrational like 4
    type 2 acts like: aggressive and dominating like 8
    type 3 acts like: disengaged and apathetic like 9
    type 4 acts like: overindulged and clinging like 2
    type 5 acts like: hyperactive and scattered like 7
    type 6 acts like: competitive and arrogant like 3
    type 7 acts like: perfectionistic and critical like 1
    type 8 acts like: secretive and fearful like 5
    type 9 acts like: anxious and worried like 6

    When in a healthy growth state each type acts like another number:
    type 1 acts like: 7
    type 2 acts like: 4
    type 3 acts like: 6
    type 4 acts like: 1
    type 5 acts like: 8
    type 6 acts like: 9
    type 7 acts like: 5
    type 8 acts like: 2
    type 9 acts like: 3

  7. #26

    I know I haven't gotten back to you after awhile, but I have a question about Se and Ne. Practicing Se or things that are Se aren't sort of my fortay. I tried sports and creating authentic surroundings and being in the moment. It wasn't always easy but it's also very forced and unusual feeling.

    Also, my apparent Ni/Fi situation works weirdly and it may be inappropriate to say that it may not work after only 2 weeks, but experiences are confusing and don't really help improve my grim future feeling. My 7w6 is pretty confirmed and works really as just a distraction for things I'm considering right now but I'd agree it does make me better. Some say I'm a bit of a nihilist, and some times I agree, but do you think its possible that I am an INFP with an Fi/Si loop where looking at possibilities objectively and gaining objective information may help?

    Also, by evaluating feedback systems to see what my strengths were in, I did miss the fact that I am a decent writer, if just a little unfocused, and I'm also a speaker in which I thought was more Se I guess. The two types are just very similar and I'm just wondering if I have a Fi/Si problem so I can make sense of these things.

  8. #27

    @BronzeHareV

    Ok. So you are a 7. Who are you at a theme park?

    Say a group of people all go to a theme park together.

    Extroverted Sensing (Se) is busy noticing all the details of the park and the people in it. Sights. Sounds. Colors. Oh, cool. That ride flips upside down! I’m going to try that. Do you smell those hotdogs? Aren’t they great? I think we ought to go bungee jumping… it’s only $50 for a group of $12! Which way is the Tower of Terror? I’m going to ride down it and watch all you sissies wet your pants when it drops 50 feet in 12 seconds!

    Extroverted Intuition (Ne) sees the possibilities of the park. Look at those two people. You can tell they’re not “together” anymore, but just hanging out for the kid’s sake. See their body language? How many rides are in this park? Do you think anyone ever died here? I think they should put a new ride in this space. Call it the Haunted House of Horrors, and have Dead Presidents in it. You know, they could put up an entire haunted SECTION of the park. That would be awesome. Who do I call to pitch that idea? Stay away from the guy in the red hat. He gives me vibes. Ooh, you know, I could write a story about a murder in a theme park! He could die because the Tilt a Whirl malfunctioned. No, no, because the Tower of Terror ride didn’t stop, it crashed the elevator to the bottom floor! His sister did it. No, his uncle! No, the theme park guy, because he’s freakin’ insane.

    Extroverted Thinking (Te) is busy organizing others and coming up with “battle plans.” Which direction do we go first? Give me the park map. Okay, where do we want to be by noon? When and where do we meet for lunch? Who is in charge of watching the kid? Which rides do what? When is the bus leaving? What do we have time for? How long are the lines? Okay, everyone who wants to go on these twelve rides, line up to the left! Everyone else to the right! We meet back here at 7pm! No stragglers! Does everyone have their phone on? Good!

    Extroverted Feeling (Fe) makes sure everyone feels involved and has their needs met. Does everyone have a buddy? Nobody should be alone! Let’s go to the bathroom first, okay? How do we feel about hamburgers for lunch? Is that okay? Let’s meet over there, shall we? Does everyone know the plan, so no one is left behind? Let’s take a vote on which direction to go first! Fe will go on a ride it doesn’t like so a friend doesn’t have to do it alone.

    Introverted Sensing (Si) relates everything around them to past experience. Last time I was here, I threw up on that ride; I’m not going on it again. Oh, hey, that’s the bench I sat on when so-and-so kissed me! Oh, good, the line is shorter this year. Why does this slushie taste different? I think they put less cherry cola in it than before! I feel ripped off. OR… I’ve never been to a theme park before, but that Ferris wheel reminds me of that scene in The Notebook, when Noah won’t take no for an answer, until Allie agrees to go on a date with him…

    Introverted Intuition (Ni) knows what will happen before it happens. I’m going to take a step back, because that kid is going to spill his slushie all over – yup, there it goes. I know which ride I want to go on. I’ve thought about it all week. I’m going to have an awesome time on that ride. I’m going there first. Wait, there are other rides? I didn’t even notice! I was busy fixating on getting to the head of the line! Ha, Marsha better not go on that thing, she’ll hurl—yep, there she goes.

    Introverted Thinking (Ti) is busy analyzing how the rides work and what makes the most sense. If I go this way, the path winds around past what I want to see, and by the time we’re to meet up, I’ll have been all the way around the park. I won’t have to walk back, or rush from one side of the park to the other. Wait, why are they all walking in the opposite direction? Don’t they know this is the logical way to do it? If you go that way, you’ll engage in needless walking and won’t be able to get through the line in front of the House of Mirrors.

    Introverted Feeling (Fi) decides which direction to go based on what is important to them. I’m going on this ride. No, it’s okay, I can go by myself. I don’t need you to come along unless you want to. I’m serious. I’m not afraid to do it alone. I’m not feeling the burgers, either. You all go ahead. I’m going to dash over to that taco stand. Nope, not going on that ride. You can beg all you want, I won’t do it. I’m scared of heights. Not a chance, bud. Drop it.

  9. #28

    I am the:

    Fi: I agree with this. I usually just focus on walking around.
    Ne: Usually this is just my weird thoughts of life which I usually just take for imagination and joking.
    Se or Si: Not sure. I'm always going to recognize the things of something but I suppose because I've never been to an amusement park. I mean I've been to sea world but I have never been twice. In real life things still hold a certain effect that i relate them to like going in a Micheal's art store and immediately expecting to smell scented pine cones or the sight of winter things.
    Te:Not so much but these are things I usually leave that up to other people.

  10. #29

    And do the P types still resonate more for you than the J types?

  11. #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    And do the P types still resonate more for you than the J types?
    Yes,that hasn't really changed but I feel I'm missing something extroverted.


     
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