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    Anyone want to take a guess?

    So for the longest time I've thought I was INFP ( based off of those relatively inaccurate online tests ) but I'm not entirely sure so is someone want to try and take a guess ( only if you want )?

    1. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

    Eh, sort of. I don't sleep a lot and I have PTSD, Anorexia Nervosa and Generalized anxiety Disorder ( all diagnosed by a psychiatrist ).
    Sex: Female Age: 17 ( almost 18 ) and I guess I'm okay? I'm not sure what 'state of mind' refers to entirely.

    2. Study these two images here ( http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8287/7...4da6df716d.jpg ) and here ( http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6005/6...c083ea9f_m.jpg ). Which one do you prefer and why? How would you describe it?

    I prefer the first one. It feels more at ease ( peaceful, you know?), less stressful and it is very pretty. It appears to be a beach at night ( or perhaps it just lacks a lot of sun due to seasonal sunlight?) with the Northern Lights in the distance ( could be wrong, pardon the ignorance).

    3. Please describe yourself as a person if you were to introduce yourself to someone else like in a cover letter. What kind of person are you and why?

    Oh, I'm not very good at introductions, sorry. I guess cover letters are somethings included often with resumes, correct? Not something I'm very familiar with.
    I'm stubborn, very quiet, sort of lazy, tend to keep my thoughts and opinions to myself ( at least verbally ). The only time I talk much is if I think my advice would be of value and I don't feel that those listening will get angry or upset with me for it. I have a very hard time discussing emotions, I basically go mute. I'm pretty melancholy, a little sarcastic but fairly polite I think. Don't really like interacting with most people but observing them from afar is interesting. I also have a fairly over-active imagination.

    4. What kind of person would you LIKE to be? Why? What kind of person would you NOT want to be? Why?


    I would likely value being more confident and less nervous and not having my head in the clouds so often. I sometimes think being more of a 'go getter' would be beneficial, would probably get me more places in life. Maybe being less closed off, being able to speak up easier, not so easy to fluster, those sorts of things, you know?

    I would definitely not want to be a hateful or spiteful person, one who doesn't care for others or who pays no mind to the trouble they cause ( even if I at time seem that way...). I suppose most people feel the same though? I mean that's pretty logical? You don't get anywhere good if you hurt others and it isn't kind.

    5. Do you think there are any differences to how you described yourself and how people actually perceive you? How do you think others would describe you? If there are any discrepancies between these two that are you are aware of; do you know why exactly that is?

    Most probably see me as very fact based, in control, stoic, etc. because that's what I generally let people see and it works well for me. They probably don't see me as sensitive unless they've at some point run into me when I've broken down a bit ( which I don't let anyone see ). Otherwise what I described is pretty close I think.

    6. What in life do you find to be of importance? Why? If you are unsure you can always take the Value Test and post the results here. Do note that it helps if you narrow it down to 20 or ideally 10 values as suggested at stage 2.

    1. Love (9 votes)
    2. Kindness (8 votes)
    3. Trustworthiness (7 votes)
    4. Intuitiveness (6 votes)
    5. Security (5 votes)
    6. Peace (3 votes)
    7. Self-control (3 votes)
    8. Honesty (2 votes)
    9. Freedom (1 votes)
    10. Spunk (1 votes)


    7. How do you react to new situations in your life? Can you describe an event in your life where you were in an unknown situation? How did you deal with it?

    It depends on the situation I guess. In general I approach unknown situations with caution due to nerves, go with my gut if things look meek and observe carefully. That's how I've dealt in general with unknown situations, like I said the specifics vary on observations the feel I get.

    8. Please describe yourself when you are in a stressful situation. How do you act and why? Real life experiences are welcome.

    Nervous, fidgety ( like I'll bounce my leg usually ), staring at the ground, but visibly most of the time stoic and quiet. If things get very difficult I might go into 'fight or flight' and try to avoid or remove myself so if I do break down or something no one will get annoyed or worried.

    9. Please describe yourself when you are in an enjoyable situation. How do you act and why? Real life experiences are welcome.


    Content, might be more talkative, slightly...jittery I guess? Depends on the exact context. Outwardly still quiet and mostly stoic unless I'm trying to smile or something.

    10. Describe your relationship to socialization. How do you perceive one-on-one interaction? How do you perceive group interaction?

    Both are anxiety inducing a lot of the time. I have an easier time with one-on-one interaction I think since I can stay more focused. I don't really work well in groups, prefer to do stuff on my own. Like I said people are interesting to observe but I rarely want to involve myself. I tend to withdraw.

    11. Describe your relationship to society. What are the elements of it you hold important or unimportant (e.g. social norms, values, customs, traditions)? How do you see people as a whole?

    Eh, I think I tend to go against the grain sometimes but pretend to fit the norm sometimes just to 'go along to get along'. Like I don't see the point in a lot of norms like gendered clothes, having to go to Church ( I don't but I live in the South so most do ), etc. I don't really understand why many feel the need to...put themselves in boxes. You know what I mean, 'Christian', 'Hipster', 'Fangirl', etc. Just do your own thing, it works better and don't worry so much about the boxes.
    People are...people. I dunno, I study psychology, I like that aspect. It is interesting to me but I don't really like most people. I mean I would help out just about anyone who needed it but I don't like having to deal with them.

    12. Describe your relationship to authority. How do you perceive authority? What does it mean to you, and how do you deal with it?

    I don't care for it. I'll listen to and follow it when I feel it's convenient and other times not so much. If I don't agree with something then I won't follow it. Period. I do not consider myself to be particularly defiant for the sake of it though.

    13. Describe your relationship to order and chaos. What do order and chaos mean to you? How do they manifest in your daily life?

    They are both important aspects to how things work. You can not have one without the other, you need balance. Order has no purpose without chaos and chaos needs order to have context.
    I'm not sure how they manifest in my daily life, I've just simply accepted them as natural functions.

    14. What is it that you fear in life? Why? How does this fear manifest to you both in how you think and how you act?

    Can I skip this one? I'd rather not go into it.

    15. What is it that you desire in life? What do you strive to achieve? Why? Where do you think these drives and desires stem from or are inspired by?

    A balance of peace and entertainment and to make a decent impact on the world ( or none at all ). I have simple goals like moving up North, getting specific job, things of that nature because I feel they will help me reach those general desires. I suppose they stem from basic human desires like wanting to be happy?

    16. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?


    a) Being out and about. Doing simple things like running errands, going to a nature park, reading, going for a drive, those sorts of things. Nothing really specific.

    b) Having to talk a lot about things which do not interest me ( that probably sounds rude, sorry ), not having a creative outlet for a long period of time, being at home for too long. Not really sure why, they just leave me tired and wanting to be left alone ( which often turns into a bad cycle ).

    17. Why do you want to know your type? What type do you think you are? Why this/these type(s)? Is there a type that appeals to you, to your self-perception, that you would like to be? Why? If you know your enneagram, please post this here. If you have done any online function tests such as the Keys2Cognition, it helps if you post these results here as well.


    I've been trying to work it out for a while and it annoys me that I can't figure it out on my own. I'm fairly certain that I'm IN something but not certain otherwise. There really isn't a type that appeals to me per say though I do tend to admire those who are INTJ, not really certain of why.
    I am a 5w6 and SO/SP if that helps any.

    18. Finally, is there something else you find to be of importance you want to add about yourself you think might be of relevance when helping to type you?

    Not particularly. You can feel free to ask though. ^^



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    I was thinking maybe you are mbti isfp

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    Based on that info, I think either INFP or INFJ. I know ISTP's tend to be 5 w6 though. introverted thinking is highly correlated to type 5.

    How about who are you in these conversations? Ni or Ne?

    Ni is my INFJ friend saying, “So and so’s problem is THIS and she’s pissed.”

    Ne is me saying, “I’m getting indistinct impressions and I think she’s mad at me, so I’m going to dig around more to see if I can get her to say what’s wrong.”

    Do you want to find the "absolute truth" (Ni)? or think several possibilities have the potential to be the truth (Ne)?

    "Ni and Ne may reach the same conclusion but Ne will be less certain in articulating that conclusion as an indisputable fact because since Ne is focused on external possibilities and doesn’t like to narrow things down like Ni does, Ne anticipates that with additional information their assumption may change."

    "Ne is expansive, pulling not only from the immediate environment but a fast storehouse of similar knowledge (Si), so it is good at reading connections between other people, but it is not good at magically coming up with an answer after sleeping on something, which is something Ni is known for. (Ni- ”Oh, the answer just came to me… I know what to do…”) Ne looks outward, eager for information and inspiration, with a desire to discuss, and Ni looks inward, looking at something from every angle before deciding if it fits in its inner framework. "

    "Ni is an INTJ I know articulating something as an absolute; and an (Ne) ENFP I know arguing with him that he doesn’t know that for sure."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    Based on that info, I think either INFP or INFJ. I know ISTP's tend to be 5 w6 though. introverted thinking is highly correlated to type 5.

    How about who are you in these conversations? Ni or Ne?

    Ni is my INFJ friend saying, “So and so’s problem is THIS and she’s pissed.”

    Ne is me saying, “I’m getting indistinct impressions and I think she’s mad at me, so I’m going to dig around more to see if I can get her to say what’s wrong.”

    Do you want to find the "absolute truth" (Ni)? or think several possibilities have the potential to be the truth (Ne)?

    "Ni and Ne may reach the same conclusion but Ne will be less certain in articulating that conclusion as an indisputable fact because since Ne is focused on external possibilities and doesn’t like to narrow things down like Ni does, Ne anticipates that with additional information their assumption may change."

    "Ne is expansive, pulling not only from the immediate environment but a fast storehouse of similar knowledge (Si), so it is good at reading connections between other people, but it is not good at magically coming up with an answer after sleeping on something, which is something Ni is known for. (Ni- ”Oh, the answer just came to me… I know what to do…”) Ne looks outward, eager for information and inspiration, with a desire to discuss, and Ni looks inward, looking at something from every angle before deciding if it fits in its inner framework. "

    "Ni is an INTJ I know articulating something as an absolute; and an (Ne) ENFP I know arguing with him that he doesn’t know that for sure."
    I'm leaning towards Ne based on those examples given. However it does not quite seem spot on? I feel like I'd probably be more likely to base what was going on with perhaps past experiences with similar situations. So say I had known the hypothetical person we're speaking of for a decently long while. I would probably say something like "I feel like they might be upset with me since they seemed to act similarly when they were angry before but I'm not certain yet".

    I will also drop these Keys2Cognition results I got not long ago ( which I forgot to do ):

    Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ********************** (22.6)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) *********************************** (35.9)
    good use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************* (31.1)
    good use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ***************************** (29.7)
    average use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.7)
    average use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) *************************** (27.9)
    average use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************************* (31.9)
    good use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ********************************** (34.8)
    good use

    In case anyone finds them of help.

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    I'm leaning towards Ne based on those examples given. However it does not quite seem spot on? I feel like I'd probably be more likely to base what was going on with perhaps past experiences with similar situations. So say I had known the hypothetical person we're speaking of for a decently long while. I would probably say something like "I feel like they might be upset with me since they seemed to act similarly when they were angry before but I'm not certain yet".
    That is Si. And you also scored high on Si. So I would say Si is one of your 4 main functions. Now I want to say you are either an ISFJ or ISTJ.

    That leaves:
    ISFJ= Si, Fe, Ti, Ne.
    ISTJ= Si, Te, Fi, Ne.
    Or maybe
    INFP= Fi, Ne, Si, Te.
    INTP= Ti, Ne, Si, Fe.

    ISTJs generally have the following traits:
    • Value tradition, security, and peaceful living
    • Will work long and hard to fulfill duties
    • Can be depended on to follow through on tasks
    • Loyal and faithful
    • Stable, practical and down-to-earth
    • Family-minded
    • Dislike doing things which don't make sense to them
    • Dislike abstract theory, unless they see the practical application
    • Natural leaders
    • Prefer to work alone, but work well in teams when necessary
    • Extremely observant, they take in facts via their senses and store them internally
    • Vast, rich inner store of facts which they rely on to understand problems which they encounter in their lives
    • Profound respect for facts and concrete information
    • Make decisions objectively, applying logic and rational thinking
    • Dislike change, unless they are shown it's benefit in a concrete way
    • Have strong opinions about the way things should be done
    • Appreciate structured, orderly environments
    • Have very high standards for their own behavior and the behavior of others
    • Not naturally in-tune with other people's feelings
    • Able to accomplish almost anything if they put their minds to it
    • Community minded "good citizens"

    ISFJs generally have the following traits:
    • Large, rich inner store of information which they gather about people
    • Highly observant and aware of people's feelings and reactions
    • Excellent memory for details which are important to them
    • Very in-tune with their surroundings - excellent sense of space and function
    • Can be depended on to follow things through to completion
    • Will work long and hard to see that jobs get done
    • Stable, practical, down-to-earth - they dislike working with theory and abstract thought
    • Dislike doing things which don't make sense to them
    • Value security, tradition, and peaceful living
    • Service-oriented: focused on what people need and want
    • Kind and considerate
    • Likely to put others' needs above their own
    • Learn best with hands-on training
    • Enjoy creating structure and order
    • Take their responsibilities seriously
    • Extremely uncomfortable with conflict and confrontation

    INTPs generally have the following traits:
    • Love theory and abstract ideas
    • Truth Seekers - they want to understand things by analyzing underlying principles and structures
    • Value knowledge and competence above all else
    • Have very high standards for performance, which they apply to themselves
    • Independent and original, possibly eccentric
    • Work best alone, and value autonomy
    • Have no desire to lead or follow
    • Dislike mundane detail
    • Not particularly interested in the practical application of their work
    • Creative and insightful
    • Future-oriented
    • Usually brilliant and ingenius
    • Trust their own insights and opinions above others
    • Live primarily inside their own minds, and may appear to be detached and uninvolved with other people

    INFPs generally have the following traits:
    • Strong value systems
    • Warmly interested in people
    • Service-oriented, usually putting the needs of others above their own
    • Loyal and devoted to people and causes
    • Future-oriented
    • Growth-oriented; always want to be growing in a positive direction
    • Creative and inspirational
    • Flexible and laid-back, unless a ruling principle is violated
    • Sensitive and complex
    • Dislike dealing with details and routine work
    • Original and individualistic - "out of the mainstream"
    • Excellent written communication skills
    • Prefer to work alone, and may have problems working on teams
    • Value deep and authentic relationships
    • Want to be seen and appreciated for who they are

    What types resonate with you? And what types make you think no that's not me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty23 View Post
    That is Si. And you also scored high on Si. So I would say Si is one of your 4 main functions. Now I want to say you are either an ISFJ or ISTJ.

    That leaves:
    ISFJ= Si, Fe, Ti, Ne.
    ISTJ= Si, Te, Fi, Ne.
    Or maybe
    INFP= Fi, Ne, Si, Te.
    INTP= Ti, Ne, Si, Fe.

     
    ISTJs generally have the following traits:
    • Value tradition, security, and peaceful living
    • Will work long and hard to fulfill duties
    • Can be depended on to follow through on tasks
    • Loyal and faithful
    • Stable, practical and down-to-earth
    • Family-minded
    • Dislike doing things which don't make sense to them
    • Dislike abstract theory, unless they see the practical application
    • Natural leaders
    • Prefer to work alone, but work well in teams when necessary
    • Extremely observant, they take in facts via their senses and store them internally
    • Vast, rich inner store of facts which they rely on to understand problems which they encounter in their lives
    • Profound respect for facts and concrete information
    • Make decisions objectively, applying logic and rational thinking
    • Dislike change, unless they are shown it's benefit in a concrete way
    • Have strong opinions about the way things should be done
    • Appreciate structured, orderly environments
    • Have very high standards for their own behavior and the behavior of others
    • Not naturally in-tune with other people's feelings
    • Able to accomplish almost anything if they put their minds to it
    • Community minded "good citizens"

    ISFJs generally have the following traits:
    • Large, rich inner store of information which they gather about people
    • Highly observant and aware of people's feelings and reactions
    • Excellent memory for details which are important to them
    • Very in-tune with their surroundings - excellent sense of space and function
    • Can be depended on to follow things through to completion
    • Will work long and hard to see that jobs get done
    • Stable, practical, down-to-earth - they dislike working with theory and abstract thought
    • Dislike doing things which don't make sense to them
    • Value security, tradition, and peaceful living
    • Service-oriented: focused on what people need and want
    • Kind and considerate
    • Likely to put others' needs above their own
    • Learn best with hands-on training
    • Enjoy creating structure and order
    • Take their responsibilities seriously
    • Extremely uncomfortable with conflict and confrontation

    INTPs generally have the following traits:
    • Love theory and abstract ideas
    • Truth Seekers - they want to understand things by analyzing underlying principles and structures
    • Value knowledge and competence above all else
    • Have very high standards for performance, which they apply to themselves
    • Independent and original, possibly eccentric
    • Work best alone, and value autonomy
    • Have no desire to lead or follow
    • Dislike mundane detail
    • Not particularly interested in the practical application of their work
    • Creative and insightful
    • Future-oriented
    • Usually brilliant and ingenius
    • Trust their own insights and opinions above others
    • Live primarily inside their own minds, and may appear to be detached and uninvolved with other people

    INFPs generally have the following traits:
    • Strong value systems
    • Warmly interested in people
    • Service-oriented, usually putting the needs of others above their own
    • Loyal and devoted to people and causes
    • Future-oriented
    • Growth-oriented; always want to be growing in a positive direction
    • Creative and inspirational
    • Flexible and laid-back, unless a ruling principle is violated
    • Sensitive and complex
    • Dislike dealing with details and routine work
    • Original and individualistic - "out of the mainstream"
    • Excellent written communication skills
    • Prefer to work alone, and may have problems working on teams
    • Value deep and authentic relationships
    • Want to be seen and appreciated for who they are

    What types resonate with you? And what types make you think no that's not me?
    Perhaps ISFJ is the closest? I hyper observant especially of people and how they're feeling, very in tune with my surroundings, I don't like confrontation, I'm very practical and don't care for the abstract, value security, etc. but I'm certainly not a natural leader nor do I dislike change like the ISTJ would suggest.

    Certainly not feeling INTP aside from the 'detached from other people' bit but I can relate to the INFP with the sensitivity, preferring to work alone, being laid back unless principles are violated. That might be the melancholy talking though.

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    Perhaps ISFJ is the closest? I hyper observant especially of people and how they're feeling, very in tune with my surroundings, I don't like confrontation, I'm very practical and don't care for the abstract, value security, etc. but I'm certainly not a natural leader nor do I dislike change like the ISTJ would suggest.

    Certainly not feeling INTP aside from the 'detached from other people' bit but I can relate to the INFP with the sensitivity, preferring to work alone, being laid back unless principles are violated. That might be the melancholy talking though.
    ISFJ= Si, Fe, Ti, Ne.
    ISTJ= Si, Te, Fi, Ne. So same functions as INFP=Fi, Ne, Si, Te, just in a different order.

    Most ISTJ's have the ability to lead but usually choose not to unless they feel like no one else can do the job properly. Yes, they can dislike change but if someone presents them proof of how to do something better then they'll choose the improved method. ISTJ's are about proof-Te.

    Difference between Te and Fe:

    "Dr. Phil is an ESTJ. If you want classic hard-knocks Te-telling-people-off, go watch some of his interview clips on YouTube. This one is the first one I ran across, and it’s hilarious how he responds… total Te. THESE ARE THE FACTS. Here is another clip where he asserts just who is boss, whose show it is, what they are going to talk about, and where he stands with a guest.

    Oprah is a Fe-dom (likely ESFJ, though she’s typed ENFJ a lot online). I tried to find the James Frey original interview with Oprah where she really nailed him (as she puts it, she was attacking him not only for herself, but “the millions of people who read your book and thought it was real”) but I can’t seem to locate it. Boo. But here’s a quick clip with Lindsay Lohan where she lays down the Fe. Basically, cut your BS, get your act together, etc. But it also comes with Fe: you’re better than this, I know you can do it, you have a good heart."

    Te as second function (ISTJ)- Aux-Te? Blunt. To the point. Motivated to accomplish. Natural planner. Can tell other people what to do and how to do it. Expects results. Motivated by money and success… but not inclined to be “the boss” unless forced.

    Ti as third function (ISFJ)- Tert-Ti? Self-analyzes and sharpens Fe, but Fe dominates it. More interested in knowing why something happened than in organizing the external world.

    You do sound like an ISFJ so far though :) And for some reason people love to over-stereotype Si

    So what are your thoughts now?


     

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