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    ESFJ - The Caregivers

    One Russian guy is way too confused about his type, please help him out!

    Hello everyone, and I'm here starting this new thread as I've finished the questionnaire, which I've been filling out for no less than 3 hours straight. I hope I've given you all enough information to be typed correctly and with at least a couple of my personality type. This community looks like a great place to stay at, and I'm really glad to join you. :) I'm willing to provide any additional information that might be needed in the future, and I'm very sorry for that my English is not advanced enough, so there may be some misunderstandings here and there. Okay, here we go:

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    To be honest, I'm rather unsure of all the aspects I've got. One day, I'm almost sure that I'm an INFJ (for example), and then something in the type description doesn't match with me very well; and then I take some kind of another personality typing test again, just to see if the result is the same, and it's completely different! I'm sure that there are at least six types I've typed myself into, most common being INTJ, ISFP, INTP and everything inbetween. The aspect I'm sure the most is introversion, mostly because of the great social anxiety, but everything else becomes more and more hard to decide as the time goes by and the more I know about personality types. It's hard to say if I'm S or N, because even if I'm pretty much sloppy and unbalanced, my goals are focused on the 'here and now' moment rather than the future or the past. It's hard to say if I'm F or T, because even if I often act as a warm shoulder for anyone who wants to share their emotions and feelings, it's just that I don't think I take all these emotions deeply enough, and just listen to others' vents and stories because I feel the need to be there and listen. The J/P dilemma is also pretty tough to decide... I think that I can't be sure of my type anymore, and thus cry for help - or so it may seem that way.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    I suppose that I yearn (hey, that's actually a new word for me, I have never seen it before, the more you know~) for great fun, for stable work that I could get some money from to spend some on gaming and some on my dog's maintenance, like, food, toys, and whatever will be needed, for some adventure in the Internet with a couple of close friends. I want my life to be filled with unity, bringing happiness to others, teaming up with some people for not being alone myself. Without any fun, the life would be boring, and a great adventure like playing a huge game alone or with a great team of people with unique personalities, befriending them while having a great experience of quests, grinding and laughing all the way is just worth yearning for, if I understand the meaning of the question right. I wish I could never worry about money, too, though it seems that everyone needs to have some kind of job in their lives, and earn for oneself's living, and so it is necessary to earn something.

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    Probably this one situation would be great for an example: playing poker freerolls and doing great at them, while there is a lot of time to go and you're still at the middle of a game. The poker table is full of players, and some of them might even talk in the chat, which is exciting because it's possible to join the conversation and just chat about random stuff. Then, the headphones must be playing some new great song I've discovered on Youtube or through the Russian Facebook clone site, and though I've already listened to it 10 times in a row, it's still not annoying and pretty much fresh - especially if there is some cover version of it or a live version with all the artists' feelings and excitement as they sing to a public real-time. This situation would make me feel great, because I feel happy of playing with others, and the chance of winning something is a great plus, and also because I'm able to have some new sound sensations, which is always good.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    Well, I feel inferior any time speaking to a person I've never met before, because it's hard to tell what should I do to please that person and I always think that they might be upset if I say something wrong - thus, most things that require social skills are here. Also, I'm very down when I have to prove someone that I'm able to do something; let's say, to prove that I've really written an Ancient History essay by myself and not copied it from some random site. It's easier to say that I can't sing at all than to sing to someone, because there is a huge number of possibilities I'll fail the other person's expectation by doing something wrong. Oh, I hate responsibility so much (except for those abilities I'm perfectly sure of and there is absolutely no chance of doing anything not good enough, that is).

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    When I weigh my decisions, they are most likely based on what I feel about it than anything else, as I'm pretty much egocentristic most of the time. I've never thought of solving anything with making a pro-cons list - neither on paper nor in mind, - because most problems are not worth doing it, and I think you have to weigh all the opinions only when the decision affects more than a certain amount of people (probably more than 5, but I'm not sure about that). If I'd be a head of a group project, I'd do what I feel like, because I'm the one who is responsible, and if I'd be a part of that group, it would be better to ask all the people who are on the same level as me or higher to make sure the decision is approved. Though I don't even think I <did> ever think on making a choice, I always did either what I've wanted to do or what others tell me to do.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

    When working on a project, my emphasis is on the general look of it. It's very important that all the rules would be followed, so every single thing is generally perfect in the overall bounds. Then, when the limits of the work are presented, I'd love the emphasis to be on being impressive to others in the terms of design and truthful to the given information so nothing is misrepresented. Of course, I like to have a full control of the outcome, as it's - even if partially, - my work, and it has to be great all the way. I don't even have to say that all my projects in school received the highest grades possible, or do I? If there is a mistake in filling forms, misunderstanding the rules, or overflowing too much information, I'll have to make sure I'll never let it happen again, either by knowing it by myself if I work alone, or pushing others to do things as it's required if I work together with someone.

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    I had a lot of fun when I first met a Chinese girl from Taiwan at one of the language exchange sites and talked with her on Skype. She was very kind and open-minded, and we both spoke pretty good English to understand each other. I brought my best friend to that conversation, and we all had a great fun time together, trying to teach her Russian language and trying to learn Chinese characters and pronounciation. It must've been pretty pathetic as me and my friend spoke Mandarin out loud after hearing it for the first time ever. The complexity of that language and the way it sounds brought a lot of laughs to the chat, and a lot of amusement, too. My memory of it is not very clear, as it's rather bad and I end up forgetting all the questions of some quiz taking it twice in a week, but I'm sure I remember some of our laugh, and how Mandarin sounds in real life, and some of our friendship afterwards. Sadly, I'm not in a contact with that girl anymore, because one day I've forgot to write, and then felt anxious thinking what she'd thought when I haven't written her and tried to forget to write her and thus losing the contact, even if I'm sure we'd be good friends if I tried to send her a good long letter with all the explains and happenings of my life as it's been almost a year as I've successfully avoided to think about writing her something...which is probably pretty sad.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    The most natural way for learning something new for me is to find some manual or an instruction with a lot of steps to follow them and succeed in creating something. People around me often say that I'm very obedient when it comes to learning, and that's pretty much true. I like to follow clear instructions, no matter if it's a video, an audio tape or someone talking and explaining how things should be done, or even a textbook. If I follow and make something by such a methode, I'll automatically memorize all the steps needed - maybe not immediately, but after a couple of repeating it's for sure, - and proceed further. A perfect example of this would be a vivid memory of how I made a large LEGO castle completing all the manual in a matter of mere hours when I was 8 - and I'm sure I had a lot of fun even if I don't remember nothing more of it except that I'm said right now. If I want to learn a new language (and I often want to do that), I already have a guide on how to do this by learning for 30 minutes daily, and reaching near-fluency level in a year. If only I'd had a power of will big enough to do all the year's work every day...

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Organized enough to keep a steady order of the day, not organized enough to keep my desk and my room constantly clean, and so it gets more and more dirty after time unless I absolutely have to clean up because there is a lot of random pencils, books, handkerchiefs and toys all over the place so it's not comfortable to invite anyone else in my room anymore. Thankfully, my mom taught me to clean after myself, and so I get everything to its place every week or about so. I'm not well organized enough to make my work by equal pieces daily, and it's always that I spend a couple of days procrastinating before starting doing anything for real. If it's needed to write an essay in a week, I end up with five days playing games, doing less than one third the sixth day and completing everything the last day. However, I'm always on time with all my appointments and never get late for anything. I think I'm a little less than average organized, but it as well could be a little higher, because of the very low level of self-esteem and want to see myself worse than I am to avoid any high expectations. Duh.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    Well, I think that the first thing I do when judging new ideas is to deciding for myself if it's realistic or not. If it applies to what I've seen and known before, it's definitely realistic for me and thus I'm happy with the idea and just consume the article/speech/any background information that contains it, if it's interesting enough for me to know more, or throw it away or decline it if it's boring or way too complex to understand (example: advanced Math theories, I'm sure they are true, but understanding the principles behind them is a very hurtful thing for my brain. I'm glad to study in the high school of Journalistics, so we don't have such stuff anymore. If the idea is generally unrealistic, or doubtful, such as "There is water on Mars" or "I want to have a puppy by the end of this year", I decide if the chances of successful ending of the idea are better than an unsuccessful ending chances, and research the information that supports the idea in the first case. When there is an idea which is neither realistic (true now) nor possible (true in the future), I don't look it up anymore and forget it. When the idea is realistic but still possible, I make some effort to reach the goal or read all the information about the idea to get the clue. I think that's right.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    I'm pretty much sure I always follow things that I believe, and always be myself at any given moment, so I can call myself a somewhat harmonious person. Then it's true that I find harmony by making sure everyone is alright and happy, with no serious problems or troubles. If you happen to remember the Disney's Brother Bear animated movie, you might know what I'm talking about by the "Welcome" song of the soundtrack. When there is a group, and it's warmly welcoming any new member, and where everyone is close to each other, it seems so perfect to me that it even hurts a little bit to think of such a perfect human harmony with mutual help and all kinds of fun and stuff done together. If anyone who is close to me is sad, I'll do anything to help them to be happy again - by cheering up, or by relieving their pain, or by explaining something they don't understand. When there are no worries more, there is a harmony for me.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    I'd say it pretty often happens that way I speak before thinking and then regret all the words I've said that were misunderstood, for quite a long time. However, it really depends on the distance of the relationship we're speaking about. If I'm with a close friend, or a family member I'm really relaxed around, it's definitely that I rarely think at all, but talk and answer questions right as they come by, generating answers right from the brain with little to none thinking pause. If I need to speak in a formal discussion, or talk to a complete stranger I know nothing about, it's probably the other way around, as I'm thinking much more than speaking (what would they say? what would he think if I approach him? what if she won't hear me very well and I'll have to repeat the phrase again?), and sometimes think instead of speaking scaring myself away deciding I'm too worthless to be around or that the person I wish to speak to will not find me amusing or good enough. You see, I always want to have the right first impression, to be liked, to be free of any fears; and it doesn't work out because of that I'm way too scared and choose not communicating at all rather than trying to just be myself. If I'm listened to, I'll prefer one-on-one communication, but group discussions often has its good sides - like that you're able to hear all the various views on the point and can say something without anyone focused on you really much.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?

    I could only jump into action right away if I'm 100% sure it's not going to do me any possible harm or personal disappoinments. Blind jumps are fun, but only if they're safe enough and meant for the sake of entertainment rather than some events which might lead to physical or psychological pain afterwards. If playing some new game, it's always better to be sure that you're able to restart from a certain point if you do something that wrong that all the game would go broken or the way you didn't meant and wanted it to be by your 'jumping' decision. No, I don't think action speaks more than words. Words do a much better job at describing feelings and thoughts, and the principle of action always reminds me of some random fighting game, which is hard to understand and very hard to follow because you have to do a huge number of combos every second and crush your opponent to pieces, spilling the monitor with blood and stuff like that... I don't like fighting games, I don't like pain, I'm not that aggressive to relieve the need of claiming power over others by killing them in the game, and I'm definitely not able to fight in real life. Never. So, if that was meant by action, I've answered that truthfully.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

    I don't like to change my plans right as I have them, so I'd prefer either to decline their invitation very politely and enjoy the show, or appointing the time of the night out at least at the day before. Unfortunately, I've never happened to have such friends who would call me for a night out at Saturday, so I can't really tell what would I do. It's possible I would agree to go with them with my parents' agreement, because it's rather hard for me to reject anything, especially if the idea comes from someone I value high enough and like very much. It's also pretty much possible I would reject their invitation because I'd be too lazy to go out of the house (and there's still the favorite show I might like too much to drop!), though the main reason still would be that it's an unplanned event I didn't know anything about.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    When I'm stressed out, it's hardly ever possible to concentrate on anything that requires my attention, so I try to stop doing all the things I've been doing before the stress came and play something relaxing like those mini-multiplayer games of Billiards and Arkanoid, something that doesn't need me to think about what should I do. It's better to turn on some soothing calm and sad music to clean off the tension of the mind, and there is also always an option of straight sleeping for a couple of hours available, at least when I'm home - and I'm almost always home. When interacting with other people, I act very angry, irritated, and often yell a lot without any offense meant, just because of feeling bad. The extreme case of that is when I throw all the stuff from my desk on the floor to show others that they should not communicate with me when I'm in such a stressful condition. Of course, I have to clean that mess after I'm calm again, but thankfully, it's pretty rare for me do such a thing.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    I become annoyed when people are hard for me to understand, acting weirdly or very moody, swinging from happiness into depression all the time with no real reason or a will to explain it to me. I dislike people who are alcoholics, but that's not a real personality trait, as far as I understand the personalities of people. People who express their emotions very easily are pretty okay to deal with, unless they want a constant reply from me to their scandals or small everyday problems which I'm not able to fix for some reason. Then, some people are a little bit too brutal, and even if I find it fine for males (or females) to have some definite shade of masculinity, it's certainly a turn-off when a person swears like every other second, acts overly aggressive and shows their dominance over me any time I speak to them. People who are way too submissive are pretty weird too, and make me avoid and dislike them... Even though, I like a lot of people, because I suppose that every single one of them is a good person, and when a random guy I'm talking to begins to show some character development, I think I've made a good job by convincing him to be better from time to time.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    I love talking with other people on the subjects I know fairly well, such as the subway, science fiction and fantasy literature, discussing Western animated cartoons or Japanese anime, learning languages, teaching languages, installing random operational systems by guides and own experiences, my dog. which is a Welsh Corgi Pembroke I love very much, by the way... There is a ton of stuff I'm ready to talk about, and it's not my fault that not everyone likes the same things as I do, and not everyone meets my expectancies of a great conversation, which can later go into a great friendship. Sadly, after speaking with people for some amount of time, I begin to get bored with them, and try to search for someone new to speak to, because as I've known a person fairly well, it's not anymore fun to speak with them as everyone has their faults, from typing English completely wrong to being too much sad all of the time. I still hope to find a great friend though, and I still have a lot of people who want me to speak with them - it's pretty hard to make excuses and still talk with them even if I don't want to, and saying the truth would probably hurt them - still, I like every guy and girl I've been friends with, and don't want them to be sad.

    18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life?

    I don't know, because if I'd say something, it would have had my attention to at least a medium level. I don't care much about cats, visiting zoos and museums, friendships in real life because I've always been a bullied one in a group of my peers unless I didn't want to hang with them anymore as they began to smoke, which is pretty bad for my health as I've got some lungs issues, to drink, which is horrible as you never know what to expect from a drunk person, and to do other bad things I don't approve of. I don't pay much attention to time zones and other worldwide differences, as it's fun to discover people personalities all over the world, and that's definitely true.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? What would your friends never say about your personality?

    As for now, I've got the only bestest friend ever, who perceives me pretty much the way I am - a somewhat random, somewhat serious leader of the two, who can always think of something fun to play or to do together (and when we're together, even learning computer sciences can be entertaining, because I'm able to explain him all the stuff he doesn't understand, and he explains me all the stuff I never seen before, but he did, so I gain knowledge along with him) and share some good music and book taste. His perception of me might be wrong because he thinks I'm not able to stand up for myself before others; I wouldn't agree with that, but you never know, and it's really hard to value yourself and to stay neutral. I've also got a dozen or two of various friends and acquaintancies which are not so close, and they perceive me as a gentle, helpful and tactful person who's always ready to keep the conversation going, and share some interesting information they never thought about. I think it's pretty much true, or at least, it's one of the ways I tend to be, at least with them. As for the last question, my friends would probably never say that deep in my soul, I wish to be a sidekick for someone strong and intelligent enough to keep me a great company, and so we two'd have a great time together, with all kinds of adventures and whatnot. A song from "All Dogs Go To Heaven" animated movie, "You Can't Keep a Good Dog Down" illustrates this dream of mine pretty clearly. Am I not trying hard enough to find that right person to supplement me, or am I bad enough not to deserve such a counterpart? You never know, and personality typing can probably help me to understand myself and to realise what I should be looking for.

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    Oh, that's great! A whole long day to do whatever I like! I'd stay at home, with two great walks with my dog on a fresh fallen snow at the morning and at the evening, playing with him, and then it would be some fun hours in the Internet, chatting and gaming with either some complete strangers or people I've already know and like a lot. As it's probably going to be a picture of a perfect day, let's add a pizza ordering service to the dinner, as I get to have a pizza only twice or thrice a year, because of not enough cash to afford it yet. Happiness aboard.

    So, here I am, waiting for your responses. I wish someone could say "Oh, you're definitely a XXXX, because of something, something else and the way you do something else", but understand that it's probably not going to be that way because of some misinterpretation or the fact I don't know personality types and typing really well. Maybe I'll provide different test results tomorrow after I sleep, as it's night here, and I only stayed up this late to finish all the questions and to have a hope to be understood right and to have some answers in the morning. I'm sorry for typing so much - it seems that at least some don't do that - but I suppose that the more I'd type, the more information you would be able to know. I'm also regretful that I didn't look up what I've written before sending the message; I'm too tired to check everything up, and then, I always try to do my best, so if there are any mistakes, they shouldn't be way too big.


    Thanks for the reading and the attention in advance!
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    I'm pretty much sure I always follow things that I believe, and always be myself at any given moment, so I can call myself a somewhat harmonious person. Then it's true that I find harmony by making sure everyone is alright and happy, with no serious problems or troubles. If you happen to remember the Disney's Brother Bear animated movie, you might know what I'm talking about by the "Welcome" song of the soundtrack. When there is a group, and it's warmly welcoming any new member, and where everyone is close to each other, it seems so perfect to me that it even hurts a little bit to think of such a perfect human harmony with mutual help and all kinds of fun and stuff done together. If anyone who is close to me is sad, I'll do anything to help them to be happy again - by cheering up, or by relieving their pain, or by explaining something they don't understand. When there are no worries more, there is a harmony for me.
    I become annoyed when people are hard for me to understand, acting weirdly or very moody, swinging from happiness into depression all the time with no real reason or a will to explain it to me.
    If I need to speak in a formal discussion, or talk to a complete stranger I know nothing about, it's probably the other way around, as I'm thinking much more than speaking (what would they say? what would he think if I approach him? what if she won't hear me very well and I'll have to repeat the phrase again?)
    don't think I take all these emotions deeply enough
    You are definitely a EXFJ. You have dominant extroverted feeling for sure!

    I also got a lot of sensing vibes from you. ESFJs aren't always "Puppies! Hugs! Pink things!". You are an example of a cool ESFJ.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    You provide a lot of information. Some of its is episodic, but one of the things I seem to really get from you is that you are a strong Introverted Sensing type (Si). Probably ISFJ or more likely ISTJ. (maybe ESTJ too).

    The reason I don't think ESFJ is that I don't get a lot of Ne from you (and certainly no Ni so definitely not ENFJ) and I don't sense thinking is your inferior function (and I don't really get a sense that you're a Ti type since you place so much of an emphasis on things like grades and information being correct rather than understandable).
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  5. #4
    ESFJ - The Caregivers

    Hooray! Some answers! :D

    Owfin, thank you very much for the response! :) I've never explored the option of myself being an ExFJ before, but as you've said you see me like that, I like the idea of it more and more. There are a lot of facts that could support the version of an ESFJ, but I won't spill them all out here not to spoil the objectivity of judging myself clearly, because it often happens than I convince myself of belonging to a certain group or type of people that I end up convincing everyone else in that, too, because I'm accomodating to the expectations rather easily. Actually, I always accomodate others, copying other person's way of putting smileys, way of thinking, opinions of something that other person might value very much and I don't. That might be the reason why I'm not able to understand my true personality - because that I act distinctively different when talking to different people, and lose myself when being alone. Now talk about being conformist, shall we? :D

    And I'm pretty sure I'm a soft person, who's all about puppies and hugs most of the time. Even if it might seem that I'm fairly cold (mostly because of the nervousness) when meeting me in person for the first time, deep inside I'm still a huge softie.

    LiquidLight, if the Ne function responds to the new options and combinations, I can do that as well, even if it's not so visible. For the last three years, I've started a huge ton of own projects without anyone making me to do them: an Internet TV channel, which later on had been shut down because of lack of original content I was able to produce, a web comic which was running for more than 9 months constantly updating one or two times weekly with a generally fun plot and awful drawing style which later on began to improve a little bit because of the constant practice. Then again, I quit that because at that time I couldn't advertise it good enough to gain at least some viewers except for a couple of friends. I've created an own site and held it up for 3 years because I wanted others to understand me better through reading my blog and keep up with all that stuff I've been making, but it hadn't gained much success and praise either, so I've moved to LiveJournal and had quite an amount of warm responses there. I've created a couple of new languages for myself, just playing with all the grammar and vocabulary stuff from all over the world, sang random songs until my voice changed and became pretty bad. And then there is a whole imaginary world I've got developed way back from the childhood... I wish I wouldn't be so lazy and so unconfident of myself to write a huge fantasy novel about it. The last time I've tried to do that I've finished with 50 000 words and a really bad plot - but it was a lot of time ago, when I still hoped to create something awesome others would enjoy. If it's not the intuition which is responsible for all that, I'm sorry as all that pile of facts I have might be pretty much unrelated to anything then.

    The main thing I emphasize on is indeed information being correct, because it hurts so much if something is not correct and people become upset of my mistakes... It's probably important to be understandable, too, but I think general comprehension is implyed under being correct with all the information and facts. In my opinion, nothing should be misunderstood at all if every fact is proved with an example, and all the information is really true and has a reliable source. I spend a lot of time doing my essays and work on my articles making them great and unquestionable to the tiniest level of detail - and if that's thinking which does its job - it does it pretty well, as I'm still praised by teachers as being good at analyzing stuff.

    I have to gain perfect grades because every grade other than perfect hurts, too, because my teachers/professors/colleagues want me to be as great as possible, even if they don't say it out loud. I have to be a living example others look up to, and have to provide everything to help them to raise to my level - thus here are such my traits as being hard-working, responsible and helpful. My best friend, who's an ISTJ, says that my best qualities are kindness, intelligence, fun to be with, that I'm always ready to help him, and that I always know how to spend time with some interesting ideas or stuff to do. That sounds pretty flattering to me, as I always try to be that way, and often succeed.
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  6. #5
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Quote Originally Posted by Beardogotter View Post



    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    When I weigh my decisions, they are most likely based on what I feel about it than anything else, as I'm pretty much egocentristic most of the time. I've never thought of solving anything with making a pro-cons list - neither on paper nor in mind, - because most problems are not worth doing it, and I think you have to weigh all the opinions only when the decision affects more than a certain amount of people (probably more than 5, but I'm not sure about that). If I'd be a head of a group project, I'd do what I feel like, because I'm the one who is responsible, and if I'd be a part of that group, it would be better to ask all the people who are on the same level as me or higher to make sure the decision is approved. Though I don't even think I <did> ever think on making a choice, I always did either what I've wanted to do or what others tell me to do. This probably indicates that you are an F.


    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    The most natural way for learning something new for me is to find some manual or an instruction with a lot of steps to follow them and succeed in creating something. People around me often say that I'm very obedient when it comes to learning, and that's pretty much true. I like to follow clear instructions, no matter if it's a video, an audio tape or someone talking and explaining how things should be done, or even a textbook. If I follow and make something by such a methode, I'll automatically memorize all the steps needed - maybe not immediately, but after a couple of repeating it's for sure, - and proceed further. A perfect example of this would be a vivid memory of how I made a large LEGO castle completing all the manual in a matter of mere hours when I was 8 - and I'm sure I had a lot of fun even if I don't remember nothing more of it except that I'm said right now. If I want to learn a new language (and I often want to do that), I already have a guide on how to do this by learning for 30 minutes daily, and reaching near-fluency level in a year. If only I'd had a power of will big enough to do all the year's work every day... This sounds very S-like. The emphasis on the instructions may imply that you have Si as a cognitive function (introverted sensing) which would imply that you may be an SJ.

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

    Organized enough to keep a steady order of the day, not organized enough to keep my desk and my room constantly clean, and so it gets more and more dirty after time unless I absolutely have to clean up because there is a lot of random pencils, books, handkerchiefs and toys all over the place so it's not comfortable to invite anyone else in my room anymore. Thankfully, my mom taught me to clean after myself, and so I get everything to its place every week or about so. I'm not well organized enough to make my work by equal pieces daily, and it's always that I spend a couple of days procrastinating before starting doing anything for real. If it's needed to write an essay in a week, I end up with five days playing games, doing less than one third the sixth day and completing everything the last day. However, I'm always on time with all my appointments and never get late for anything. I think I'm a little less than average organized, but it as well could be a little higher, because of the very low level of self-esteem and want to see myself worse than I am to avoid any high expectations. Duh.Being organized or not is not necessarily the best indicator of whether you are a J or a P. I'm an ISFJ and I procrastinate a lot too and keep my room a mess most of the time.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    Well, I think that the first thing I do when judging new ideas is to deciding for myself if it's realistic or not. If it applies to what I've seen and known before, it's definitely realistic for me and thus I'm happy with the idea and just consume the article/speech/any background information that contains it, (this definitely sounds like Si-pointing to you being an SJ) if it's interesting enough for me to know more, or throw it away or decline it if it's boring or way too complex to understand (example: advanced Math theories, I'm sure they are true, but understanding the principles behind them is a very hurtful thing for my brain. I'm glad to study in the high school of Journalistics, so we don't have such stuff anymore. If the idea is generally unrealistic, or doubtful, such as "There is water on Mars" or "I want to have a puppy by the end of this year", I decide if the chances of successful ending of the idea are better than an unsuccessful ending chances, and research the information that supports the idea in the first case. When there is an idea which is neither realistic (true now) nor possible (true in the future), I don't look it up anymore and forget it. When the idea is realistic but still possible, I make some effort to reach the goal or read all the information about the idea to get the clue. I think that's right.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    I'm pretty much sure I always follow things that I believe, and always be myself at any given moment, so I can call myself a somewhat harmonious person. Then it's true that I find harmony by making sure everyone is alright and happy, with no serious problems or troubles. If you happen to remember the Disney's Brother Bear animated movie, you might know what I'm talking about by the "Welcome" song of the soundtrack. When there is a group, and it's warmly welcoming any new member, and where everyone is close to each other, it seems so perfect to me that it even hurts a little bit to think of such a perfect human harmony with mutual help and all kinds of fun and stuff done together. If anyone who is close to me is sad, I'll do anything to help them to be happy again - by cheering up, or by relieving their pain, or by explaining something they don't understand. When there are no worries more, there is a harmony for me. (An F response--not sure whether it is more Fi or Fe though.)

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    I'd say it pretty often happens that way I speak before thinking and then regret all the words I've said that were misunderstood, for quite a long time. However, it really depends on the distance of the relationship we're speaking about. If I'm with a close friend, or a family member I'm really relaxed around, it's definitely that I rarely think at all, but talk and answer questions right as they come by, generating answers right from the brain with little to none thinking pause. If I need to speak in a formal discussion, or talk to a complete stranger I know nothing about, it's probably the other way around, as I'm thinking much more than speaking (what would they say? what would he think if I approach him? what if she won't hear me very well and I'll have to repeat the phrase again?), and sometimes think instead of speaking scaring myself away deciding I'm too worthless to be around or that the person I wish to speak to will not find me amusing or good enough. You see, I always want to have the right first impression, to be liked, to be free of any fears; and it doesn't work out because of that I'm way too scared and choose not communicating at all rather than trying to just be myself. If I'm listened to, I'll prefer one-on-one communication, but group discussions often has its good sides - like that you're able to hear all the various views on the point and can say something without anyone focused on you really much.Not sure if you are I or E from this response.


    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    I love talking with other people on the subjects I know fairly well, such as the subway, science fiction and fantasy literature, discussing Western animated cartoons or Japanese anime, learning languages, teaching languages, installing random operational systems by guides and own experiences, my dog. which is a Welsh Corgi Pembroke I love very much, by the way... There is a ton of stuff I'm ready to talk about, and it's not my fault that not everyone likes the same things as I do, and not everyone meets my expectancies of a great conversation, which can later go into a great friendship. Sadly, after speaking with people for some amount of time, I begin to get bored with them, and try to search for someone new to speak to, because as I've known a person fairly well, it's not anymore fun to speak with them as everyone has their faults, from typing English completely wrong to being too much sad all of the time. I still hope to find a great friend though, and I still have a lot of people who want me to speak with them - it's pretty hard to make excuses and still talk with them even if I don't want to, and saying the truth would probably hurt them - still, I like every guy and girl I've been friends with, and don't want them to be sad. Maybe this points to you being an E.



    Based on my comments, I think you are probably an XSFJ, probably an ESFJ. I think the cognitive function order Fe-Si-Ne-Ti might be your order, which would point to ESFJ.

    Try the cognitive function test here to see what your cognitive functions are. Don't read about the 8 cognitive functions first because it might skew your answer. Post the results when you are done. Keys 2 Cognition - Cognitive Processes
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  7. #6
    ESFJ - The Caregivers

    kittychris07, here are the results.

    Cognitive Process -------------------- Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)


    extraverted Sensing (Se)
    ********************************** (34.4)
    good use

    introverted Sensing (Si)
    ****************************************** (42.8)
    excellent use

    extraverted Intuiting (Ne)
    **************************** (28.8)
    average use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********************* (21.1)
    limited use

    extraverted Thinking (Te)
    *************** (15.3)
    unused

    introverted Thinking (Ti)
    *************** (15.3)
    unused

    extraverted Feeling (Fe)
    ***************************************** (41.6)
    excellent use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************************** (40.9)
    excellent use
    And even the site analysis suggests that my pattern of responses is actually close to the ESFJ type, considering ISFJ or ESFP as an alternative option. I really appreciate the comments demonstrating why do you think it's possible for me to be an ESFJ, and it'll be quite interesting to read about all those cognitive functions as I can't skew my answers anymore :)
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  8. #7
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    With Ti and Te at the bottom, it definitely looks like you are in fact an ESFJ (Fe-Si-Ne-Ti being the functions used, in that order). I think if you were an ISFJ (Si-Fe-Ti-Ne), you would likely have had a higher score than you did on Ti and Te and a lower score on Ne and Ni. ESFP would have had the order of Se-Fi-Te-Ni and ISFP would have had the order Fi-Se-Ni-Te.
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  9. #8
    Unknown Personality

    You're an ESFJ.

    I see a LOT of Fe from you, and what's left over is Si. What stood out to me most of all in support of this: You're very concerned with the feelings of others, and you provided superior detail to each of the above questions. Your lack of Ne is likely explained by your age. My tertiary Se is not all that well developed, and I'm 22. You are also a very competent wielder of the English language, by the way. I respect the ability to truly learn and effectively use our over-complicated, yet very specific, language.

    My only recommendation is to work on your self-esteem a bit. The constant fretting about what others might think if you mess up at things sounds a bit.... restricting. Higher self esteem (which will likely naturally come with age, as well) will help ease this restriction, as you will have a bit of a "buffer" against the occasional embarrassment.
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