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  1. #11
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    What type of work would you like to do for God?
    I'm going to sound cliche, but whatever He "calls" me to do. But I think it would most likely be writing or research for church stuff.

    What kind of research?

    and also, 3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
    I guess when I was sixteen-seventeen. I was brimming with hope for the future.
    What things changed your mind about brimming with hope for the future?
    I was starting a new course then, in the local college. I was the classic bright-eyed and bushy tailed freshie. Now I've completed my course, but you could say I'm at a crossroads in my life.

    I find that ISFJ's will stick to their goal, like what they studied they will go on to pursue the job in that field, anyone correct me if i'm wrong plz, but they tend to make their goals and follow through steadily... I'm an INFP, i seem to be always at crossroads in my life trying to decide which way to go, however i know that if we feel "called by God" that can make any type pretty much be willing to switch direction, but ISFJ would definately have a harder time to change course than INFP or ISFP. I think both INFP and ISFP are job hoppers, also because that Fi is strong, we don't like our Fi being upset and we can get offended easily as we are both very sensitive to our feelings.

    ISFP's make for good journalists. Do you think wanting to write and research church stuff as what you would like to do for God's work, do you think that is like being a journalist? I like to write and research Bible stuff, but as far as research, do you mean like go out on the road and ask questions to people like a News Journalist sort of thing?
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  2. #12
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    I would like to research and write, but I'm not really keen on journalism. Haha, I'm not very outspoken, so that might hinder me.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCRTS View Post
    I would like to research and write, but I'm not really keen on journalism. Haha, I'm not very outspoken, so that might hinder me.
    Si is very strong in ISFJ's, it is territary in INFP's, it's somewhat present also in ISFP's but being a shadow function to secondary Se it's not used as much as Se is.
    Si dom like ISFJ's are extremely sentimental. Do you find yourself to be an exremely sentimental person?

    Fi dom with secondary Ne (i know cause i'm an INFP) is always processing what they intuit externally by running it through their feelings. Very Very intuitive but from interracting with external input (rather than Ni that pulls it out of "nowhere", just out of mysterious, mystical imaginations from mysterious, mystical sometimes magical visions in their mind. INFJ and INTJ Ni doms.) How well do you relate to the INFP description?

    i guess that would mean Fi dom with secondary Se (ISFP) (i dont' have much experience with ISFP's) i guess it would mean having keen perception with their 5 senses, then running it through their feelings, to make a real masterpiece work of art, whether that art is painting, writing, musician, etc. sorry best i could think of off the top of my head right now for them...
    how do you relate to that?

    let's see if this can shed some more light in typing you?

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  5. #14
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Hey, let's see if this helps. I'll bold the parts that describe me, and we can see how many points fit me.
    ==========
    ISFP description

    The Artist
    ============


    1. ISFPs live in the world of sensation possibilities. They are keenly in tune with the way things look, taste, sound, feel and smell. They have a strong aesthetic appreciation for art, and are likely to be artists in some form, because they are unusually gifted at creating and composing things which will strongly affect the senses.

    2. They have a strong set of values, which they strive to consistently meet in their lives.

    3. They need to feel as if they're living their lives in accordance with what they feel is right, and will rebel against anything which conflicts with that goal.

    4. They're likely to choose jobs and careers which allow them the freedom of working towards the realization of their value-oriented personal goals.

    5. ISFPs tend to be quiet and reserved, and difficult to get to know well. They hold back their ideas and opinions except from those who they are closest to.

    6. They are likely to be kind, gentle and sensitive in their dealings with others.

    7. They are interested in contributing to people's sense of well-being and happiness, and will put a great deal of effort and energy into tasks which they believe in.

    8. ISFPs have a strong affinity for aesthetics and beauty.

    9. They're likely to be animal lovers, and to have a true appreciation for the beauties of nature.

    10. They're original and independent, and need to have personal space.

    11. They value people who take the time to understand the ISFP, and who support the ISFP in pursuing their goals in their own, unique way. People who don't know them well may see their unique way of life as a sign of carefree light-heartedness, but the ISFP actually takes life very seriously, constantly gathering specific information and shifting it through their value systems, in search for clarification and underlying meaning.

    12. ISFPs are action-oriented individuals. They are "doers", and are usually uncomfortable with theorizing concepts and ideas, unless they see a practical application. They learn best in a "hands-on" environment, and consequently may become easily bored with the traditional teaching methods, which emphasize abstract thinking.

    13. They do not like impersonal analysis, and are uncomfortable with the idea of making decisions based strictly on logic. Their strong value systems demand that decisions are evaluated against their subjective beliefs, rather than against some objective rules or laws.

    14. ISFPs are extremely perceptive and aware of others. They constantly gather specific information about people, and seek to discover what it means. They are usually penetratingly accurate in their perceptions of others.
    15. ISFPs are warm and sympathetic. They genuinely care about people, and are strongly service-oriented in their desire to please. They have an unusually deep well of caring for those who are close to them, and are likely to show their love through actions, rather than words.

    16. ISFPs have no desire to lead or control others, just as they have no desire to be led or controlled by others. They need space and time alone to evaluate the circumstances of their life against their value system, and are likely to respect other people's needs for the same.

    17. The ISFP is likely to not give themself enough credit for the things which they do extremely well.

    18. Their strong value systems can lead them to be intensely perfectionist, and cause them to judge themselves with unneccesary harshness.

    19. The ISFP has many special gifts for the world, especially in the areas of creating artistic sensation, and selflessly serving others.

    20. Life is not likely to be extremely easy for the ISFP, because they take life so seriously, but they have the tools to make their lives and the lives of those close to them richly rewarding experiences.

    Total Count: 8/20 (40% ISFP)


    ======================================
    Portrait of an INFP - Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
    (Introverted Feeling with Extraverted Intuition)

    The Idealist
    =================================

    1. INFPs are highly intuitive about people. They rely heavily on their intuitions to guide them, and use their discoveries to constantly search for value in life.

    2. They are on a continuous mission to find the truth and meaning underlying things.

    3. Every encounter and every piece of knowledge gained gets sifted through the INFP's value system, and is evaluated to see if it has any potential to help the INFP define or refine their own path in life. The goal at the end of the path is always the same - the INFP is driven to help people and make the world a better place.

    4. Generally thoughtful and considerate, INFPs are good listeners and put people at ease. Although they may be reserved in expressing emotion, they have a very deep well of caring and are genuinely interested in understanding people. This sincerity is sensed by others, making the INFP a valued friend and confidante. An INFP can be quite warm with people he or she knows well.

    5. INFPs do not like conflict, and go to great lengths to avoid it. If they must face it, they will always approach it from the perspective of their feelings.

    6. In conflict situations, INFPs place little importance on who is right and who is wrong. They focus on the way that the conflict makes them feel, and indeed don't really care whether or not they're right. They don't want to feel badly. This trait sometimes makes them appear irrational and illogical in conflict situations.

    7. On the other hand, INFPs make very good mediators, and are typically good at solving other people's conflicts, because they intuitively understand people's perspectives and feelings, and genuinely want to help them.

    8. INFPs are flexible and laid-back, until one of their values is violated. In the face of their value system being threatened, INFPs can become aggressive defenders, fighting passionately for their cause.

    9. When an INFP has adopted a project or job which they're interested in, it usually becomes a "cause" for them.

    10. Although they are not detail-oriented individuals, they will cover every possible detail with determination and vigor when working for their "cause".

    11. When it comes to the mundane details of life maintenance, INFPs are typically completely unaware of such things. They might go for long periods without noticing a stain on the carpet, but carefully and meticulously brush a speck of dust off of their project booklet.

    12. INFPs do not like to deal with hard facts and logic. Their focus on their feelings and the Human Condition makes it difficult for them to deal with impersonal judgment. They don't understand or believe in the validity of impersonal judgment, which makes them naturally rather ineffective at using it.

    13. Most INFPs will avoid impersonal analysis, although some have developed this ability and are able to be quite logical.

    14. Under stress, it's not uncommon for INFPs to mis-use hard logic in the heat of anger, throwing out fact after (often inaccurate) fact in an emotional outburst.

    15. INFPs have very high standards and are perfectionists.

    16. Consequently, they are usually hard on themselves, and don't give themselves enough credit.

    17. INFPs may have problems working on a project in a group, because their standards are likely to be higher than other members' of the group. In group situations, they may have a "control" problem.

    18. The INFP needs to work on balancing their high ideals with the requirements of every day living. Without resolving this conflict, they will never be happy with themselves, and they may become confused and paralyzed about what to do with their lives.

    19. INFPs are usually talented writers. (Don't know about that, heh, but I do love writing.) They may be awkard and uncomfortable with expressing themselves verbally, but have a wonderful ability to define and express what they're feeling on paper.

    20. INFPs also appear frequently in social service professions, such as counselling or teaching. They are at their best in situations where they're working towards the public good, and in which they don't need to use hard logic. INFPs who function in their well-developed sides can accomplish great and wonderful things, which they will rarely give themselves credit for. Some of the great, humanistic catalysts in the world have been INFPs.

    Total: 11/20 (55%)

    =================================
    Portrait of an ISFJ - Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
    (Introverted Sensing with Extraverted Feeling)


    The Nurturer
    ==================================

    1. ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings.

    2. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.

    3. ISFJs have a rich inner world that is not usually obvious to observers. They constantly take in information about people and situations that is personally important to them, and store it away.

    4. This tremendous store of information is usually startlingly accurate, because the ISFJ has an exceptional memory about things that are important to their value systems.

    5. It would not be uncommon for the ISFJ to remember a particular facial expression or conversation in precise detail years after the event occured, if the situation made an impression on the ISFJ.

    6. ISFJs have a very clear idea of the way things should be, which they strive to attain. They value security and kindness, and respect traditions and laws.

    7. They tend to believe that existing systems are there because they work. Therefore, they're not likely to buy into doing things in a new way, unless they're shown in a concrete way why its better than the established method.

    8. ISFJs learn best by doing, rather than by reading about something in a book, or applying theory. For this reason, they are not likely to be found in fields which require a lot of conceptual analysis or theory. They value practical application. Traditional methods of higher education, which require a lot of theorizing and abstraction, are likely to be a chore for the ISFJ.

    9. The ISFJ learns a task best by being shown its practical application. Once the task is learned, and its practical importance is understood, the ISFJ will faithfully and tirelessly carry through the task to completion. The ISFJ is extremely dependable.

    10. The ISFJ has an extremely well-developed sense of space, function, and aesthetic appeal. For that reason, they're likely to have beautifully furnished, functional homes.

    11. They make extremely good interior decorators. This special ability, combined with their sensitivity to other's feelings and desires, makes them very likely to be great gift-givers - finding the right gift which will be truly appreciated by the recipient.

    12. More so than other types, ISFJs are extremely aware of their own internal feelings, as well as other people's feelings.

    13. They do not usually express their own feelings, keeping things inside.

    14. If they are negative feelings, they may build up inside the ISFJ until they turn into firm judgments against individuals which are difficult to unseed, once set. Many ISFJs learn to express themselves, and find outlets for their powerful emotions.

    16. Just as the ISFJ is not likely to express their feelings, they are also not likely to let on that they know how others are feeling. However, they will speak up when they feel another individual really needs help, and in such cases they can truly help others become aware of their feelings.

    17. The ISFJ feels a strong sense of responsibility and duty. They take their responsibilities very seriously, and can be counted on to follow through. For this reason, people naturally tend to rely on them.

    18. The ISFJ has a difficult time saying "no" when asked to do something, and may become over-burdened. In such cases, the ISFJ does not usually express their difficulties to others, because they intensely dislike conflict, and because they tend to place other people's needs over their own. The ISFJ needs to learn to identify, value, and express their own needs, if they wish to avoid becoming over-worked and taken for granted.

    19. ISFJs need positive feedback from others. In the absence of positive feedback, or in the face of criticism, the ISFJ gets discouraged, and may even become depressed. When down on themselves or under great stress, the ISFJ begins to imagine all of the things that might go critically wrong in their life. They have strong feelings of inadequacy, and become convinced that "everything is all wrong", or "I can't do anything right".

    20. The ISFJ is warm, generous, and dependable. They have many special gifts to offer, in their sensitivity to others, and their strong ability to keep things running smoothly. They need to remember to not be overly critical of themselves, and to give themselves some of the warmth and love which they freely dispense to others.

    Total: 11/20 (55%)

    Verdict: It's a toss up between ISFJ and INFP.
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  6. #15
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer777 View Post
    Si is very strong in ISFJ's, it is territary in INFP's, it's somewhat present also in ISFP's but being a shadow function to secondary Se it's not used as much as Se is.
    Si dom like ISFJ's are extremely sentimental. Do you find yourself to be an exremely sentimental person?
    Yeah, I'm a very sentimental person. Like, super nostalgic and everything. Heh. I usually remember the feelings that I had when I was going through the experiences the first time.

    Fi dom with secondary Ne (i know cause i'm an INFP) is always processing what they intuit externally by running it through their feelings. Very Very intuitive but from interracting with external input (rather than Ni that pulls it out of "nowhere", just out of mysterious, mystical imaginations from mysterious, mystical sometimes magical visions in their mind. INFJ and INTJ Ni doms.) How well do you relate to the INFP description?
    I've already highlighted the parts of the INFP description that fit me. It's a toss up between INFP and ISFJ. I think we can definitely rule out ISFP. But you know, as I was reading and reflecting, I was feeling that ISFJ does fit me better than INFP. Perhaps I am an ISFJ with a strong Fi. It is possible, yes?
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  7. #16
    ISFP - The Artists

    chocolate chip fudge cookie lol

  8. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCRTS View Post
    Yeah, I'm a very sentimental person. Like, super nostalgic and everything. Heh. I usually remember the feelings that I had when I was going through the experiences the first time.


    I've already highlighted the parts of the INFP description that fit me. It's a toss up between INFP and ISFJ. I think we can definitely rule out ISFP. But you know, as I was reading and reflecting, I was feeling that ISFJ does fit me better than INFP. Perhaps I am an ISFJ with a strong Fi. It is possible, yes?
    ISFJ's don't use intuition that much, Ne is their inferior function, and Ni is the shadow function of the inferior function thus known as 'the devilish funcion'. They are more into concrete facts, not abstract thinking.

    Here is the eruption of the inferior function of Te (the INFP) when under stress and also the eruption of the inferior function of Ne (ISFJ) under stress. See which one you identify with more.

    https://personalitycafe.com/infp-arti...tion-ifps.html

    https://personalitycafe.com/isfj-arti...tion-isfj.html

    Also, see which one you understand more, Ti or Ni? Ti is the territary function of ISFJ's and the devilish function of INFP's.
    Ni is the shadow function of INFP's secondary function of Ne, and the devilish function of ISFJ's.

    Ti - INTROVERTED THINKING
    Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles.
    Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work. The analysis involves looking at different sides of an issue and seeing where there is inconsistency. In so doing, we search for a “leverage point” that will fix problems with the least amount of effort or damage to the system. We engage in this process when we notice logical inconsistencies between statements and frameworks, using a model to evaluate the likely accuracy of what’s observed.

    Ni - INTROVERTED INTUITING
    Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects.
    Introverted iNtuiting involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!” The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions.
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  9. #18
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer777 View Post
    Here is the eruption of the inferior function of Te (the INFP) when under stress and also the eruption of the inferior function of Ne (ISFJ) under stress. See which one you identify with more.

    https://personalitycafe.com/infp-arti...tion-ifps.html

    https://personalitycafe.com/isfj-arti...tion-isfj.html
    I identify with inferior Ne more than inferior Te. Under stress, I tend to be more panicky and pessimistic under stress, and imagine a lot of negative circumstances.

    Also, see which one you understand more, Ti or Ni? Ti is the territary function of ISFJ's and the devilish function of INFP's.
    Ni is the shadow function of INFP's secondary function of Ne, and the devilish function of ISFJ's.

    Ti - INTROVERTED THINKING
    Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles.
    Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work. The analysis involves looking at different sides of an issue and seeing where there is inconsistency. In so doing, we search for a “leverage point” that will fix problems with the least amount of effort or damage to the system. We engage in this process when we notice logical inconsistencies between statements and frameworks, using a model to evaluate the likely accuracy of what’s observed.

    Ni - INTROVERTED INTUITING
    Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects.
    Introverted iNtuiting involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!” The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions.
    I think I use Ti more, but instead of ideas, I apply it to people. I observe people and notice the inconsistencies between them. For Ni, I do recognize it, but I use it more rarely than I do Ti.
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  10. #19
    ENTJ - The Executives

    ........ WHERE IS MY COOKIE!

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  11. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCRTS View Post
    I identify with inferior Ne more than inferior Te. Under stress, I tend to be more panicky and pessimistic under stress, and imagine a lot of negative circumstances.


    I think I use Ti more, but instead of ideas, I apply it to people. I observe people and notice the inconsistencies between them. For Ni, I do recognize it, but I use it more rarely than I do Ti.
    Bravo!! :) You are truly an ISFJ! i have heard of another ISFJ questioning the same thing about can they be an ISFJ with strong Fi, i have heard that before and they couldnt' make up their mind if they were INFP or ISFJ, but it pointed to ISFJ. Maybe it's Si being so strong that brings that stubborn way of this is what i value and believe and i'm sticking to it, kinda thing. Plus, Fi is your shadow functino of your secondary function of Fe, so yes you use Fi but not like how much you use Fe. Fe will override Fi alot of the times, but yes, you use Fi, absolutely, just like me as an INFP uses Fe, but nowhere near how i use Fi, but yes i use Fe sometimes. Sometimes i will smile and laugh to make a group happy even if i feel like i want to leave cause i don't feel like i have anything in common, or just trying to be nice and please someone, yes i use Fe sometiems, and you use Fi sometimes.. Sweet! You nailed it this time!!! ISFJ it is!! LOL :)
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