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    My type isÖ? (Maybe ISTP?)

    Salutations. I am an eighteen-year-old female who is rather confused about what her personality type is. Here is a questionnaire I answered to let you get to know more about me, feel free to ask anything else. I hope I did this right.

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

    Well, it's not a personality aspect, but I have no idea what my type could be because I have no idea which cognitive functions I use the most. I have read about all of them, but Iím still not sure. I took the similarminds and celebritytypes cognitive function quizzes, and they both gave me unclear results, but to be honest, I didn't know how to answer quite a few of the questions on there.

    Another thing that made me confused requires a little backstory and is pretty long, I'm not sure if it's important, but itís here under the spoiler.

    Around two and a half years ago, I made an account here on PersonalityCafe and made a few posts. I found MBTI very interesting back then, but I don't think I knew much about it. I was pretty sure I was an ISTJ during this time, that's what I got on most of the personality tests and the descriptions fit me pretty well. I even made a thread like this one long ago and those who replied said I seemed like an ISTJ. After a couple of months, I lost interest in MBTI and pretty much ditched this website.

    A couple of weeks ago, I became interested in MBTI again after some of my friends were talking about it. I noticed that as these three years passed, my personality has changed a lot. One of the most notable changes I went through was that I became more spontaneous. I started thinking through things less and just jumping into them. In addition, I became more outgoing. During this time, I made some good friends and I found that I wanted to spend most of my time with them, and I got energy from hanging out with them rather than being alone. I also noticed that I started hanging around my family members more rather than staying alone in my room like I used to. I took some personality quizzes again, getting ISTP on most of these.

    Too long; didnít read: The fact that my personality type shifted makes me more confused. And now I am even more curious about what my most dominant cognitive functions are, did they change completely over time since my type seems to have changed? Am I actually still an ISTJ who became more extraverted and easygoing?


    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

    I try not to think about my future, so Iím not sure. Iíd like to have a job that I genuinely enjoy, yet gives me a good amount of money. Iím not sure what this could possibly be. All I really want is to be satisfied in life. Sometimes I feel as though I would like a significant other and to have children, while others I can see myself being alone just fine.

    3) Think about a time when you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

    I was forced to attend a school dance and at this dance, my crush asked me to dance with him. I hate to admit it, but I believe I felt I was at my finest while I was dancing with him and right after. I guess it made me feel special, I was the only one with whom he danced, and maybe he likes me back.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?

    Nearly everything about me makes me feel inferior to others. Itís mostly personality-related although there are some aspects of my appearance that make me feel rather insecure. But my things that make me feel the worst about myself are my poor social skills and my lack of intelligence. I become even more insecure if I hear someone saying something bad about me.

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

    If itís a big decision, I think about the pros and cons. How I feel about it is also a big factor.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

    Iím not sure how to answer his question. I guess Iíd just like to get the project done.

    7) Describe us a time when you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

    That incident I described in the third question is a great example of a time when I had a lot of fun, and my memory of it is excellent. Another great time I had was when I went to a field trip with my class. While we were on the train, we played a bunch of games and talked a lot, I really felt like I was part of the group. I could go more into specific details about both these events, but I donít feel that would be important.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

    I am very prone to memorization.

    9) How organized do you think of yourself as?

    I do not believe myself to be very organized. I have two desks at home and they are both very cluttered with old schoolwork, invitations/cards, food wrappers, and other miscellaneous stuff. My school binders and backpacks were always the same way. Iím not the kind of person who makes to-do lists, and in school I never used planners.

    10) How do you judge new ideas? Do you try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

    I do both. I think I do the second option more, though.

    11) Do you find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

    Iíd say neither. Belonging to a given group feels nice, but I usually donít care to make sure everyone is doing fine. And following what I believe/being myself doesnít necessarily make me feel good.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

    I do both. There are a ton of times when I accidentally blurted out something. But most of the time during group conversations I am quiet because I canít think of anything meaningful to say. It depends on my mood, if I feel more like listening I prefer group discussions, but if I want more chance of participating in the conversation, Iíd like one-on-one communication.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?

    I like to jump into action right away. I think words speak as much as action, I guess it depends.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

    Television can wait for sure. I'd much rather hang out with my friends, I'll drop the show without a second thought and get ready for the night out.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

    My patience with other people becomes very short and I can become very unpleasant company. When I am stressed out, I find that I have a difficult time hiding it from others and trying to act normally. Time to myself, usually listening to music or trying to take a nap helps me get back to normal.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

    Rudeness for sure, I cannot stand those who disrespect or are mean to others. Also, I dislike argumentative people who feel the need to be in some sort of debate too often. Arrogance/pretentiousness is a pet peeve, as well as dishonesty.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

    I like hearing about the things that happen in peopleís daily lives. Also, I really enjoy talking about music. I'd rather talk about rock and metal and the conversation would probably last longer that way, but I do love to find out about the musical preferences of anyone with whom I converse extensively. Honestly, I like talking about my crush, but only to my mom and my Internet friends, I'd feel highly uncomfortable talking about him with my other friends who personally know him.

    18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life?

    People I donít know (especially celebrity culture in general), nature, health, fashion. Iíd say television as well, but there are a few series that I enjoy from time to time.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? What would your friends never say about your personality?

    My friends usually describe me as kind, quiet, and smart. I donít think thereís anything wrong with these descriptions (although the ďsmartĒ is questionable) other than them being very vague. They also tend to say that I am hardworking, and Iím actually not sure if I am or not. I donít feel like I put much effort into whatever I do, but maybe they sense something else? In my yearbooks, a couple of people have written that Iím funny, and Iíve heard quite a few of my friends say that I am very helpful. I guess they would never say the opposite of these words, that I am loud, dumb, lazy, boring, and uncaring.

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

    I donít know, I donít like planning this kind of stuff, I like going with the flow and making spontaneous decisions when it comes to this sort of thing. If I imagine that this day to do whatever I like starts right at this moment, getting into my car for a long joyride while listening to some metal albums I havenít yet heard sounds absolutely splendid.

    Thanks for reading, I apologize for talking too much! I might do the scenario questionnaire as well later.



  2. #2
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Well, I don't think ISTJ is the right type for you.

    Functionally, I think Se-Ni is right. It's there in answers like #20 ("I don't like planning...I like going with the flow and making spontaneous decisions.") and #13 ("I like jumping into action right away"). Even #3 (it involves *being* and *experiencing* rather than processing).

    ISTP is not a bad suggestion, all things considered. Be aware that many (most!) ISTP profiles have a male bias because male ISTPs outnumber female ones four to one.

    ISFP is another type I'd consider--there are hints of inferior Thinking in answers like #12 and #4 (perfectionism is very common in IxFPs and #12 suggests you might have an Fi-Ni tendency toward seeking the Ideal). The way you feel more comfortable with those closest to you often indicates Fi>Fe. ISTPs are often more comfortable with strangers (weak Fe follows established social norms) while ISFPs tend to have a circle of intimates (think Harry Potter).

    Either way, what you're describing about coming out of your shell and becoming more spontaneous and exploratory in your late teens--that's really common for IP types in general. We spend our early years learning to focus and judge, but as our secondary perception function develops we need to explore more and get out of our heads.

    Hope this helps!

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    I'm picking up some Si-Ne in your thread (it reflects in your narration, more than in the content, and to me, that's more showing when it comes to cognitive functions) so I wouldn't personally go into ISTP from there ; but the content itself does show ISTP traits and behaviours (stereotyped boxes), so, it's worth examining and double-checking all possibilities anyways 8) 77

    Why I would dismiss ISTP : I'm picking up signs of Te/Fi(Fi/Te) dynamics, and little clues for Fe/Ti (or Ti/fe) and I'm rather firm on that. You don't seem to be looking for a sort of internal logical, complex and refined framework made up of logic (Ti is picking up apart all the info and rearranging it until you can make sense of whatever you have at your disposal) ; Fi is about keeping it moral integrity in place and making sure there is a form of consistency in personhood (rooted in Te anyways, and absolutely not saying here that you don't have logic if you have Fi!). Fi seeks a form of personal validation, and isn't much sensitive to the variation of the environment as to how it impacts oneself (Fe's domain). Your main conflict does not seem to be revolving around Fe-Ti / Ti-Fe dynamics. You seem to be rather plunged into the Fi-Te, possibly tertiary Te. (I can elaborate if needed/wanted)

    Ultimately, cognitive functions aren't exactly about behaviour, but more a matter of why you display a certain array of behaviour (at a given level of ego development, with possibilities of looping and being in the grip, with lower functions active and of which you aren't necessarily aware of) which means, typing yourself can be tricky because many factors have to be considered at once). Finally, your type in itself does not change, but many things may happen instead : you grow as an individual and learn to deal with new aspects of reality (you have other functions pressing in unconsciously, urging you to use them), you also vary from one point to the other on a scale of ego development (which may happen frequently and is a life-long process anyways). You cognitive mapping, however, doesn't change much. It represents who you are, and who you become during a lifetime (integrating more and more unconscious urges coming from the lower functions) ; it really is about what you identify with - and leads people to some beliefs and behaviours according to a certain focus on reality.

    (I'm still undecided upon which perceiving functions are at work here, I would need more info, just to make clarify and make sure)

    Right now, you do strike me as an ISFP*, judging by the overall aspects of your thread (content, mostly) ; it's a coherent possibility. I have one or two questions although if you don't mind :)

    - When it comes to memorizing, what kind of info do you memorize let's say, about a given topic at school ? Do you tend to memorize the facts (and enjoy more or less, or need to focus on much detail), or do the facts only make sense if you can see how they fit into a whole, until you've reached a clear framework ?

    - If you were given time to rethink an essay which you personally consider is done, before handing it in, would you go over it, look for unexplored possibilities and look for more details to add as evidence for it, or would you just leave it as it is, and double-check if it's coherent in its whole and just leave it be?


    *I didn't notice you were a woman, because I skimmed through that part as I don't think it's relevant to typing. Please, don't think I spotted you as a Feeler because of that, if this is something you mind.
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    Thanks for the help, I will definitely consider ISFP now thanks to both of you. I never looked much into it in the past because whenever I read ISFP descriptions, there were usually some key things that I did not think described me. The fact that they're often referred to as "artists" made me think I couldn't be one, I have next to no artistic ability. But I guess that's just a stereotype. They are also commonly described as sympathetic and compassionate, and I don't think I'm either of those. I often have a difficult time relating to other people, putting myself in their shoes. Is that another stereotype?

    Reading about their cognitive functions, though, and what you both wrote, it does seem like a great possibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaLeonis View Post
    - When it comes to memorizing, what kind of info do you memorize let's say, about a given topic at school ? Do you tend to memorize the facts (and enjoy more or less, or need to focus on much detail), or do the facts only make sense if you can see how they fit into a whole, until you've reached a clear framework?
    I have a tendency to memorize the facts and this usually works fairly well for me. However, I have noticed that I can recall the information better and for a longer amount of time when I see how they fit into a whole. But I don't always do this because the other way comes more naturally and is faster for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaLeonis View Post
    - If you were given time to rethink an essay which you personally consider is done, before handing it in, would you go over it, look for unexplored possibilities and look for more details to add as evidence for it, or would you just leave it as it is, and double-check if it's coherent in its whole and just leave it be?
    I usually read it over mainly to check for grammatical errors, and yes, to see if it is coherent in its whole. I don't go out of my way to look for those unexplored possibilities, but I often find opportunities to add more details/evidence for my essays and I do so.

  6. #5

    @CrownClown

    Let go of typing yourself by behaviour, and focus more on what the cognitive function needs, and push you, personally, to do. A lot of the stereotyping and traits are aimed at figuring people out and trying to identify their best strengths in a quick-and-efficient-yet-totally-inaccurate way. I'm an INTP, but I got mistyped as INFP, and ENFP because I can have feelings (yayyy); let's say in significant relationships, I'm totally like an xSFJ; I can also display unhealthy uses of Fe at times, and it is true that I have a hard time getting in touch with my emotions, but that doesn't make all the picture. I sometimes wonder about the possibility of being INFJ, why ? Because I care about people. And have 'gut feelings'. But I know that's the intuition working, only intuition is based differently that Ni. Both produce gut feelings but they don't arise from the same process. I can be 'wise' (Many friends have called me so, because I give matrimonial opinions and life advice u_u) but what's being 'wise' anyways? It's not a trait only INFJs are entitled to. And not all ISFPs are artistic, or sympathetic; they could have a weird use of their functions...

    In short, if I focus on behaviour, I'm missing the core dynamics, I'm missing the conflict, I'm missing the reasons that allows me to understand how all those things are connected and lead to one another (and I just keep looking at the product, instead of the process).

    From your answers, I'm inclined to think you're using Se > Ni (in the way you present them, as well as their content), but it's not clear-cut.

    You are left with either xSFP (if you're using Se-Ni), or xSTJ (If you're using Si-Te, which is a possibility, placing you with a good tertiary Fi). I personally would recommend mbti-notes'tumblr (the blog that I always go to for reference anyways), which is a goldmine of info on typing yourself. Go through the tags of Se, Si, Ni and Ne and perhaps see for yourself over there?
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    The "artist" stereotype is really from Keirsey's work. But he's careful to emphasize that "artist" is not just "painter, musician, author, actor". His "artists" may be masters of any field they choose to work in--it's the search for excellence, for beauty, for the perfect, and for the ideal that defines ISFP. The way you describe the experience of listening to music hit a number of ISFP points.

    On "sympathy" and "compassion"--one of the best ways I've come across distinguishing FP types from FJ types is the distinction between "sympathy" and "empathy". High Fe tend to sympathize while Fi users tend to describe their feelings as empathizing.

    Fi users need to connect to the emotion/experience in a personal way. It has to be meaningful to you--many Fi users reinterpret others' emotions in a way that make it personally relevant. While ISFPs often like to be around people--especially those they can trust completely--they tend to work indirectly with the public, through political activism, education, or coaching. Quite a few of the ISFPs I know are in politics as campaign workers, lobbyists, and personal staffers.

    What kinds of careers/areas of future study most interest you?
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    Okay, I think I understand it now. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by TyranAmiros View Post
    What kinds of careers/areas of future study most interest you?
    Gosh, I'm not sure. I currently have no idea what I would like to have as a potential career or area of future study. Most of the ones I come across either don't interest me, or don't seem like something I would be good at.


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