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    Why are high Ti and Se consistent with ESTJ? Wouldn't those be shadow functions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernilthur View Post
    Why are high Ti and Se consistent with ESTJ? Wouldn't those be shadow functions?
    ESTJ's tend to naturally have high Ti & Se.
    All types have natural high ignoring and demonstrative functions: which is ESTJ's Ti & Se in this case.

    Though even if an ESTJ didn't have high Ti & Se then it wouldn't be a problem i.e. mid.
    But if they had really low Ti then perhaps I would doubt them being ESTJ, a low Se is "meh".

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    You seem to have excellent use of Ti and Se. I can see that you're lacking Fe, but from your cognitive functions test, you have more Ne than Ni.....

    I would say ISTP, but ESTJ can also be a good choice like @narcissistic said
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcissistic View Post
    ESTJ's tend to naturally have high Ti & Se.
    All types have natural high ignoring and demonstrative functions: which is ESTJ's Ti & Se in this case.

    Though even if an ESTJ didn't have high Ti & Se then it wouldn't be a problem i.e. mid.
    But if they had really low Ti then perhaps I would doubt them being ESTJ, a low Se is "meh".
    Ah, okay. I've only done very cursory research on Socionics, so correct me if I'm misunderstanding: Ego and Id Block functions are strong, while Super-Ego and Super-Id Block are weak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernilthur View Post
    Ah, okay. I've only done very cursory research on Socionics, so correct me if I'm misunderstanding: Ego and Id Block functions are strong, while Super-Ego and Super-Id Block are weak?
    Ego: High strength and High value.
    Id: High strength and Low value.
    Super-Ego: Low strength and Low Value.
    Super-Id: Low strength and High Value.

    Strength = How good you are at it/ using the function often.
    Value = Need for its use/ sees the function as important/unimportant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcissistic View Post
    Ego: High strength and High value.
    Id: High strength and Low value.
    Super-Ego: Low strength and Low Value.
    Super-Id: Low strength and High Value.

    Strength = How good you are at it/ using the function often.
    Value = Need for its use/ sees the function as important/unimportant.
    Okay, got it. And the types and functions correlate well with MBTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernilthur View Post
    Okay, got it. And the types and functions correlate well with MBTI?
    Function order is same.
    MBTI and socionics have slightly different definitions for their functions,
    however they are pretty much the same.

    I would say socionics is more defined and insightful,
    I generally only bring up socionics for vulnerable functions and sometimes ignoring and role functions if I need to.
    I would find it hard to see e.g. an INTP with high Se.
    Socionics functions are good at narrowing down the possibilities,
    otherwise all the types I pondered and suggested about in the explanation would be all good choices for their type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by narcissistic View Post
    Function order is same.
    MBTI and socionics have slightly different definitions for their functions,
    however they are pretty much the same.

    I would say socionics is more defined and insightful,
    I generally only bring up socionics for vulnerable functions and sometimes ignoring and role functions if I need to.
    I find would find it hard to see e.g. an INTP with high Se.
    Socionics functions are good at narrowing down the possibilities,
    otherwise all the types I pondered and suggested about in the explanation would be all good choices for their type.
    That makes sense. Thank you for your explanations!


     
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