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    Here I Slay The 80Q Beast

    So I've done a similar questionnaire before, and 80%-85% certain of my type, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for questionnaires and outside feedback is always welcome. I'll skip around a bit depending on how much I feel like answering a specific block. Summoning @Lord Fenix Wulfheart if you get the chance, or want to. I know it's a lot to sift through, so I understand if you can't.

    Block 1
    I really enjoyed answering this section


    1. General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean?

    When I think about general to specific I'm thinking of applying a general concept to a specific situation. For example testing out the principles of thermodynamics in a chemistry lab to compare the mass of specific reactants to the mass of their product. I see it as testing out the applicability and universality of a concept. The specific to the general is finding patterns throughout various events and situations and forming a broad concept or opinion from those instances. Both avenues are great for classification, just look at biology and how it classifies organisms. Felix (specific)>domestic cat>feline>mammal>animal (general).

    2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view?

    All logic is are a set of axioms used to construct and determine the validity and soundness of an argument. It's highly formulaic, and the external validity of the premises don't necessarily have to be true as long as the conclusion correctly follows from the premise. I think the colloquial view of logic is mistaken as rationality or what generally makes sense. Rationality does involve logic, but it also involves more nuanced and more holistic thinking.

    3. How do you explain fractions on the dial of the clock?

    Time is infinitely divisible. It's a logical structure that we impose in order to track the progression of our lives as well as to properly structure it.

    4. What is a rule? What rules do you have to follow?

    Rules are a set of guidelines to follow and depending on the circumstances bending the rules is fine to get the desired result.

    5. What is hierarchy? Do you need to follow it? Why or why not?

    A hierarchy is a where people, things, or ideas are ranked according to status, importance, or relevance. Organizationally, I'm not opposed to hierarchy, even strict a hierarchy. Though I'm more inclined to support a more horizontally organized system that operates like a cooperative or a syndicate where people work in positions that cater to their strengths, a strict hierarchy has it's place to a degree. Hierarchy becomes problematic when it comes overly bureaucratic, inefficient, and unjust.

    6. What do you think of instructions? Do you use them? Could you write an instruction manual? If so, what type of instruction manual would you most likely write?

    Meh refer to question 4

    7. Please explain: "Freedom is in complying with the laws, but not in ignoring the laws"? Do you agree with the statement? Why?

    I agree to an extent. If there's complete anarchy, you're pretty much on your own forcing yourself to fend for yourself and for those you love. You have no safety nets, you have no protections, you have no standard of living. Fear, violence, and brute strength reign supreme, but I understand that's an extreme example. Even in the absence of a set structure of rules and regulations, people naturally fill in the blanks with rules appropriate for the situation. In this case, rules can give us freedom from violence, exploitation, and abuse, thereby giving us freedom to pursue our own interests especially interests that don't directly impact our own survival. But it's a delicate balance, how much rules is too many rules? What are the purpose and logic of those rules? Who do they benefit?

    8. Tell us how about consistent you are?

    I'd like to say I'm fairly consistent and steady.

    9. What is a "standard"? Why do people need it?

    Standards are set of criteria that serve as guidelines. Standards are very important in keeping quality and motivating people to better themselves. Of course, it's always good to be realistic about your standards.

    10. You need to put your home library in order. How do you feel about this activity? How will you approach this task?

    I love this question! First I'll order the library by subject: literature, philosophy, science, etc. In the literature and philosophy section in chronological order. For philosophy it would go: pre-Socratics, classic greek, scholastics, and so on until the contemporary era. Similar structure with literature.

    I'm skipping around a bit.

    Block 6


    1. "Whole world does not cost one tear of child" – how do you understand this phrase? Do you agree with this opinion?

    This means that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual. On face, I agree with this. I think our individual needs can be met through meeting the needs of the whole, but while I do care about the whole of humanity, my needs supersedes that of others.

    2. Is it acceptable to express emotions? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

    Yeah why not? That's the most human thing to do. I sometimes wish people were more honest in expressing how they feel, if only people were brought up learning how to authentically and effectively express their emotions. I would think the rate of violence would partially go down.

    Obvious examples of inappropriate emotional expression would be loudly raging in the library. There's heartfelt and passionate emotional expression, and there's crossing bounds of reason.

    3. Can you use negative emotions? In what situations?

    I mainly use anger as a motivator for myself. Anger is one hell of energizer and anesthetic. But due to taking meds, my negative moods are less severe, and I need new sources of inspiration and creativity. I've found seeking meaningful and soulful experiences to be more of a sustainable motivator than anger will ever be. Apart from that, I'm pretty numb to other negative emotions as they mostly get filtered through anger.

    4. How do you express negative emotions? What does it look like? What do others think about it?

    I bottle them up and tense up, and others can notice my tension before I do. Before my meds, my best friend used to call me a black hole of anger, as if all the world's anger concentrated in one spot. Apparently I'm scary when I'm in a bad mood �� People stay away from when I'm in a bad mood, and I prefer it that way.

    5. Shallow emotions – what does it mean? Are there any other emotions?

    I have no idea.

    6. What are right or wrong emotions?

    I would like to say that there are no right or wrong emotions as I see emotions as signals and indicators. However, there are emotions that are inappropriate for a situation like laughing at the death of innocent children. That's a HUGE indicator that something is wrong with you.

    7. Can you change the emotional state of yourself? Of others? To what side – positive or negative?

    I can easily put myself in a mood if I tried. As for affecting other people's mood, sure, if I'm being consciously mindful of that. I probably do affect other people's emotions without me realizing how.

    8. What does it mean to "pour out your emotions"? How does it happen?

    It means being emotionally expressive. How does it happen? It just does...?

    9. Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

    Subtly and maybe not consciously. Like I alluded to earlier, people can sense my negative mood even if I'm not explicitly expressing it. If I'm in a good mood, I would want to show it as well.

    10. Do you track what mood you are in throughout the day? Do you notice the mood of others?

    I do on both accounts.

    To be continued!
    Last edited by Gorgon; 09-21-2017 at 11:17 PM.
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    Block 2, Part 1
    I find this block harder to answer since it was pretty boring.


    1. What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?

    I actually think the notion and nature of work is a lot more complicated than people give it credited for. It's not just a means for survival, it's a process that encapsulates our values, mindset, and passions. Even if you're in a job you don't like, you're there for a reason (besides survival). If it's a temporary job, you're working towards a bigger goal. Work takes up the majority of our day and lives so there needs to be a deeper examination, on an existential level, on how it affects us, how we view ourselves and others, and so on.

    For the most part I can perform any job that I set my mind to but of course there our jobs I can't perform due not having the right skills or requirements for the job. Or a schedule conflict.


    2. Is there any correlation between quality and quantity? Tell us if or how the price depends on quality?

    No

    3. How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?

    I determine the quality of something if it can effectively perform the task it's set to perform.


    4. How do you feel if you didn't finish some work? Does it ever happen? What are the reasons?

    I hate leaving things unfinished, it leaves a hole in my heart 😞. But of course it does occur due to lack of time or interest.

    5. What is "interesting work" for you? Please explain in detail.

    It's work that engages me and has some hold on me. Interesting work for me would be something like a private investigator, detective, therapist, criminologist, mercenary, something exciting, challenging, and slightly dangerous.

    6. You go to the store and see something you're interested in buying; there is a price tag on it. What parameters are you going to use to understand if it's overpriced, underpriced, or priced correctly?

    If I really need it right away I'll purchase it even if it's overpriced. However that's rarely the case that if I need to purchase important, it seems overpriced as that's something I've already planned for. I guess I would measure the price range by its quality or its ability to give the results I want. Even if something is expensive if I'm pleased or impressed with the results, I wouldn't consider it overpriced.

    7. When you work and someone tells you: "You don't do it right." What is your reaction?

    It depends on how they phrased it, and why they said that.

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    Block 2, Part 2

    8. There is a professional right next to you. You always see that you can't perform the way they do. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?

    I would be super curious and attentive. I would ask questions and take notes.

    9. When you have to ask someone else to help you with the task, how do you feel?

    I feel fine about, it's just another way to learn and improve. Why continue to do a task if you're not sure how to do it? That could have severe consequences.

    10. You need to build a pyramid exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?

    Hire the best engineers and architects and let them do all that work

    Block 3 - This was an interesting section to answer in some parts but there were a lot of questions I didn't care for.

    1. What is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?

    Beauty is symmetry. It's aesthetic harmony. It's aspirational. But ugliness can also be beautiful. There is something refreshing about something that's so unrepentantly discordant and unfiltered. There's no explanation, there's no justification, it's just is. I think that's why I'm so drawn to the morbid and grotesque because it's a monkey wrench to the symbolic order. There's no pleasing, there's no enticement, it's pure ugly truth. I've always hated the aspirational nature of beauty, I've always found it deceptive and oppressive to some degree. Fuck platonic objects! But there's truth in it's idealism, romanticism, and deception. The gloss betrays the values of a society and what they hold in importance. In deception, you'll find more truth than truth plainly revealed.

    2. Please describe your understanding of a beautifully dressed person. What is the core of beauty? How do you explain what is beautiful to a person who has never heard about beauty before?

    A nicely dressed person is someone who knows how to mix and match. They know what looks good on them, and they can play up their features.

    The core of beauty is its affect on the viewer. What's most fascinating about is the emotions that emerges within the viewer. It can inspire awe and wonder, envy and hate, terror and intimidation, and admiration and lust, and this how I would describe to a person who's never heard of beauty.

    3. Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as "classical beauty"? If so, what is it?

    Classical beauty is beauty that is considered universally appealing. Almost everyone can agree that it's beautiful. It's near perfect. But it has no danger, no mystery, no intrigue, no eccentricity, it's bland if I'm to be perfectly frank. Don't care for it.

    4. What is comfort? What is coziness? How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?

    It's the roar of thunder and lightning in the night sky. It's afternoon breeze at the beach. Comfort sensually activates me. Though it's something I appreciate, it's not something I linger on. But I do love creating comfort or setting an atmosphere for someone else.

    5. How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?

    I pick clothes based on comfort, how it fits me, and how it looks of course. I don't have a specific style per se, but it ranges from hobo to slightly gothic, something like this:

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    I don't know if can select clothes for different body types.


    6. How do you cook? Do you follow recipes? What do others think of your skill?

    I don't cook. Period. But I should.

    7. Are you good at color patterns and mixing them and matching?

    Yes

    8. If someone is telling you what is beautiful and what is not, what goes with what color and what is not, do you agree with this person?

    Sure? Maybe?

    9. Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?

    Ehhhh....I'll probably do it myself.

    10. How do you know if a person has bad taste? Could you give us an example? Do you always trust your own taste or do you seek opinions from others.

    I mean if they dress too plainly like dad jeans and sneakers, then I consider that poor taste. Poor taste to me either means no effort/sloppy or trying to hard/overly flashy. I trust my own sense of taste, yes.
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    Block 4 - This section got my gears going in a good way.

    1. Can you line up human resources and make them do things? What methods do you use? Can you press people? If so, how does it happen?

    If you mean by that as in organizing people, managing people, or something similar to that, maybe. I don't mind directing others especially when I know what I'm doing. I rarely resort to aggression or belligerence yet I still manage. I can be very firm, assertive, solid, and even pushy when need be. How much pressure you need to apply really depends on the situation and people you're dealing with. Some people don't require much motivation or pressure. Then there are those that need a direct kick in the ass, and there are those that require more indirect or covert means of pressure and motivation. There's no one size fits all.

    2. What is incursion? How do you deal with this? Can you repulse? How easy can you do it?

    An incursion is a blitz or sudden assault. I've been assaulted twice as teen, once I ran away (got a kick and punch in though), and another time I slapped the person (I knew this person). With verbal assaults, which are something I rarely get into, I just calmly let them say their piece, and then retort back with a sharp remark. I'm usually conflict avoidant and fairly peaceful, and would rather not involve myself in other people's mess, but I will stand my ground, and will push back hard if need be. I don't tolerate my boundaries being crossed (except in other instances where I have the say so and those matters are discussed). I used to be much more of a doormat when I was younger, and that did no favors for me.


    3. What does "my people" and "strangers" mean? When do "my people" become "strangers" and why?

    I have a very small circle of friends I interact with whom I share my heart with. And then there are coworkers who are acquaintances. And then there's everyone else. I don't have a strict criteria of who enters my inner circle as long as you're interesting, kind, and understanding. What kicks you out of "my circle" is breach of trust and one-sided relationships or an expectation of such.

    4. Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified?

    The nature of violence, force, aggression, and influencing people are complex and more nuanced than people give them credit for. It's as much about brains and luck as it is strength and guts. Can I use strategies of attack? Maybe. However, if there are a billion and one situations where attacks are needed, there's going to be a billion and one multiplied by 4 methods of attack. Most people are skilled in 1-4 (I pulled those numbers out of my ass). In situations where you don't have time to think strategically, gut instincts and quick thinking are needed. Am I equipped to do that? I would hope so. For example sparring in the dojo is a whole different experience than fighting on the streets. And street fighting is a whole different beast than out maneuvering your business competitor. All different scenarios and mindsets yet they all require similar skills to some degree.

    5. Do you think it's ok to occupy someone else's territory? In what situations?

    No unless they get in my space. Like I mentioned before, I'm pretty conflict avoidant, however I'm extremely territorial. I'm territorial of my space, my time, and my energy. But in a way, I kind of enjoy people stepping on my boundaries. It not only tests my resolve but it also makes me rethink how I frame my boundaries.

    6. What are the methods of volitional force? When is it most effective and in what situations?

    Refer to question 4

    7. How do you protect yourself and your interests?

    A good defense.

    8. Describe your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?

    Refer to question 2

    9. Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?

    Some people do. I come off as a pretty solid, grounded, and occasionally no-nonsense person. Deep down I don't feel entirely strong. I still feel I have a lot to accomplish and overcome.

    10. How do you understand if a person is strong? Are there any signs of a strong person? What is the core of any force? Why do people listen to one person, but not the other?

    A strong person has resolve first and foremost, and this resolve can manifest in a multitude of ways. It can even manifest as kindness and compassionate. The strongest people are people who are courageous enough to be kind and principled even if it's easier and more profitable to be otherwise. If that's not resolve, I don't know what is.

    The core of why people would listen to one person over another is respect. That's it. How you garner that respect is another story, but it all boils down to proving yourself.
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    Block 5, Part 1 - I enjoyed this section

    1. What is boorishness? Does your understanding of it correlate with the generally accepted notion? How would you explain what boorishness mean to a 10 year old child? How would you explain the same to an adult who does not behave ethically?

    Boorishness is obnoxiousness that’s not fit for the situation. For example if someone is yelling in a library. That’s how I would explain it to a child. I would give them examples since that’s something they can understand. If I’m admonishing an adult who’s being boorish, they’re (1) don’t realize it or (2) don’t care. If it’s the former, I’ll just simply tell them they’re disturbing others. If it’s the latter, I’ll appeal to their self-interest. I’ll say something a long the lines of “If you keep doing a, then b, c, d will happen to you. For your sake, I would stop doing a.”

    2. How would you improve the moral of the society?

    This is hard to answer since I might as well restructure the whole foundation of society, and start anew. There’s too many improvements that need to be had to key in on a couple of options. But in order to answer the question, I’ll frame it in a way of raising a child. If I were a mother, I would instill strong values into my child. I’ll list them:

    1) Independence: I want my child to be to make up their own mind and decisions. In order to do this, I’ll create an environment where they feel secure and able to explore. On top of that, I’ll have to explain to them the meaning and consequences of their actions so they’ll have a better understanding on how to make decisions. But I’ll also have to let them make their own mistakes.

    2) Critical Thinking: Schools here are woefully behind when it comes to proper education. Critical thinking, rhetoric, and argumentation should be taught early on and refined over the years. Thinking critically is a science AND an art. It requires both technical and computational know-how as well as intuitive understanding and emotional nuance. I would want my child to learn this.

    3) Compassion: This is the most important one for me. I think we get too caught up in our own problems that we sometimes fail to consider the bigger picture. We’re all on this planet struggling, fighting for our keep, trying to survive, and it’s hard to keep optimistic and open-hearted at times. But deep down, we all want the same things in life: love, fulfillment, and joy. Even the most cantankerous person wants these. A warrior spirit, a poetic compassionate heart, and an analytical mind is the best combination to have.

    3. Can you justify somebody's bad behavior by thinking that he/she wasn't taught how to do so?

    It’s an explanation not a justification. It’ll aid me in finding methods on how to deal with them, but they still need to deal with the consequences of their actions. If they didn’t know then, they’ll know now.

    4. Give us your understanding of love. Can you love and punish at the same time?

    Love is life. Love is everything. Love is the oxygen in our blood and the air we breathe. Without Love, we suffer and wither. There are different types of love and how to love of course. In that regard I consider big L Love to be the source and catalyst for all life, the living daylight. Small t love is the different categories of love (agape, eros, filia, etc). A lot the problems we face is due to a lack of Love. I also believe that Love and punishment are not mutually exclusive depending on that type of Love. A good parent (reasonably) punishing their child for a bad deed is exercising love. That parenting is teaching the child that actions have consequences. That child will be better prepared in navigating the murky and treacherous waters of life.
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    You look Si PoLR to me. I'd guess you are an LIE of Assertive DCNH.

    I will return later when I have time to go over this.

    Also. I am flattered that you thought to tag me. I've not been actively typing people for some time. :)
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    Some samples of my thoughts as I arrive at the conclusion LIE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgon View Post
    Specific to general – what does it mean?

    When I think about general to specific I'm thinking of applying a general concept to a specific situation. For example testing out the principles of thermodynamics in a chemistry lab to compare the mass of specific reactants to the mass of their product. I see it as testing out the applicability and universality of a concept. The specific to the general is finding patterns throughout various events and situations and forming a broad concept or opinion from those instances. Both avenues are great for classification, just look at biology and how it classifies organisms. Felix (specific)>domestic cat>feline>mammal>animal (general).
    You are comfortable classifying things and appear to do so with confidence.

    You prefer to focus on objective application of logic rather than on the logic itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgon View Post
    2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view?

    All logic is are a set of axioms used to construct and determine the validity and soundness of an argument. It's highly formulaic, and the external validity of the premises don't necessarily have to be true as long as the conclusion correctly follows from the premise. I think the colloquial view of logic is mistaken as rationality or what generally makes sense. Rationality does involve logic, but it also involves more nuanced and more holistic thinking.
    Ti appears to be viewed as obvious information. You talk about it, then you stop. It is important but not interesting.

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    4. What is a rule? What rules do you have to follow?

    Rules are a set of guidelines to follow and depending on the circumstances bending the rules is fine to get the desired result.
    More result thinking. Applicability, rational, focused on consequences.

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    5. What is hierarchy? Do you need to follow it? Why or why not?

    A hierarchy is a where people, things, or ideas are ranked according to status, importance, or relevance. Organizationally, I'm not opposed to hierarchy, even strict a hierarchy. Though I'm more inclined to support a more horizontally organized system that operates like a cooperative or a syndicate where people work in positions that cater to their strengths, a strict hierarchy has it's place to a degree. Hierarchy becomes problematic when it comes overly bureaucratic, inefficient, and unjust.
    Valued TeFi. Te over Fi.

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    6. What do you think of instructions? Do you use them? Could you write an instruction manual? If so, what type of instruction manual would you most likely write?

    Meh refer to question 4
    Forming a personal logical ruleset consistent to your own rules is seen as uninteresting, again. Devalued Ti.

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    7. Please explain: "Freedom is in complying with the laws, but not in ignoring the laws"? Do you agree with the statement? Why?

    I agree to an extent. If there's complete anarchy, you're pretty much on your own forcing yourself to fend for yourself and for those you love. You have no safety nets, you have no protections, you have no standard of living. Fear, violence, and brute strength reign supreme, but I understand that's an extreme example. Even in the absence of a set structure of rules and regulations, people naturally fill in the blanks with rules appropriate for the situation. In this case, rules can give us freedom from violence, exploitation, and abuse, thereby giving us freedom to pursue our own interests especially interests that don't directly impact our own survival. But it's a delicate balance, how much rules is too many rules? What are the purpose and logic of those rules? Who do they benefit?
    Focus on who benefits, impacts, and avoidance of wasted effort. EJ behavior. TeFi valuing. Looks LIE.

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    9. What is a "standard"? Why do people need it?

    Standards are set of criteria that serve as guidelines. Standards are very important in keeping quality and motivating people to better themselves. Of course, it's always good to be realistic about your standards.
    Realistic? Interesting. Seems like pragmatic logic again, find the realistic way to improve people even if that may be upsetting. Te and Fi, Te over Fi.

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    10. You need to put your home library in order. How do you feel about this activity? How will you approach this task?

    I love this question! First I'll order the library by subject: literature, philosophy, science, etc. In the literature and philosophy section in chronological order. For philosophy it would go: pre-Socratics, classic greek, scholastics, and so on until the contemporary era. Similar structure with literature.
    Highly structured mind. Looks like Ti valuing. Possibly inconsistent with other findings.

    Hints of Ni valuing, here and above.

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    1. "Whole world does not cost one tear of child" – how do you understand this phrase? Do you agree with this opinion?

    This means that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual. On face, I agree with this. I think our individual needs can be met through meeting the needs of the whole, but while I do care about the whole of humanity, my needs supersedes that of others.
    Hm. Probably Fe devaluing, but normative Fe or better. Role?

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    2. Is it acceptable to express emotions? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

    Yeah why not? That's the most human thing to do. I sometimes wish people were more honest in expressing how they feel, if only people were brought up learning how to authentically and effectively express their emotions. I would think the rate of violence would partially go down.

    Obvious examples of inappropriate emotional expression would be loudly raging in the library. There's heartfelt and passionate emotional expression, and there's crossing bounds of reason.
    Prefers to defer to others and engage in wishing only when it comes to correcting ethics of others. Values reason over expression. Seems like thinker reasoning to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgon View Post
    I mainly use anger as a motivator for myself. Anger is one hell of energizer and anesthetic. But due to taking meds, my negative moods are less severe, and I need new sources of inspiration and creativity. I've found seeking meaningful and soulful experiences to be more of a sustainable motivator than anger will ever be. Apart from that, I'm pretty numb to other negative emotions as they mostly get filtered through anger.
    Ni valuing. Asking for help with Fi, needing sources rather than knowing how to self provide. Mentions meds are the cause. Meds may interfere with these conclusions, so this segment - and potentially more - are not usable.

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    I bottle them up and tense up, and others can notice my tension before I do. Before my meds, my best friend used to call me a black hole of anger, as if all the world's anger concentrated in one spot. Apparently I'm scary when I'm in a bad mood �� People stay away from when I'm in a bad mood, and I prefer it that way.
    Fe is conscious and Fi is not, by the look of it. Dynamic type. Lives the moods, doesn't see the mood.

    Poor control of anger (pre medicated, interesting) and expressions of forcefulness while angry suggests low dimensional Se.

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    I have no idea.
    Emotional contemplation is somewhat suppressed. Probably a thinker type.

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    6. What are right or wrong emotions?

    I would like to say that there are no right or wrong emotions as I see emotions as signals and indicators. However, there are emotions that are inappropriate for a situation like laughing at the death of innocent children. That's a HUGE indicator that something is wrong with you.
    Gamma Fi reasoning. What you feel indicates what you are, and marks you as a problem. Person may or may not change, but until then is a problem.

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    7. Can you change the emotional state of yourself? Of others? To what side – positive or negative?

    I can easily put myself in a mood if I tried. As for affecting other people's mood, sure, if I'm being consciously mindful of that. I probably do affect other people's emotions without me realizing how.
    Semiconscious Fe. Not usually applied, somewhat unsure of it, but able to recognize signals and probably norms. Role.

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    8. What does it mean to "pour out your emotions"? How does it happen?

    It means being emotionally expressive. How does it happen? It just does...?
    Views emotion as part of the self, not atmosphere. Fi valuing.

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    9. Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

    Subtly and maybe not consciously. Like I alluded to earlier, people can sense my negative mood even if I'm not explicitly expressing it. If I'm in a good mood, I would want to show it as well.

    10. Do you track what mood you are in throughout the day? Do you notice the mood of others?

    I do on both accounts.

    To be continued!
    Tracking moods is interesting. Being aware of this suggests active contemplation of ethical concerns. Slightly contradicts prior conclusions.
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  9. #8

    @Lord Fenix Wulfheart

    Thank you! I really do appreciate it. I will finish the questionnaire as soon as possible, I’ve just been tied up (in more ways than one ;) )
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  10. #9

    All right. Let me know if you have questions, and tag me when you do more, ok @Gorgon ? Perhaps my view will change. :)
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  11. #10

    Everyone who said ILI for me was correct (I typed at ESI when I made this thread nearly 2 years ago). This recent thread I made will shed light on this:

    https://www.personalitycafe.com/cogn...e-develop.html
    @Lord Fenix Wulfheart I don’t know if you’re still active around these parts.
    Last edited by Gorgon; 04-25-2019 at 11:44 PM.


     
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