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    Please type this noob :3

    Hi All! I'm new to Socionics and would really appreciate some feedback on my type. Using the philisophical questionnaire

    1. Is it worse to fail at something or never attempt it in the first place?
    Depends on the risk vs reward level and also depends on the topic. Smaller stuff, maybe the risk does not outweigh the reward. Deeper stuff like love, sure - these things are what makes life worth living. Overall for everyday mundane stuff, better to know what I'm dipping my toe into before I take a full dive though.

    2. If you could choose just one thing to change about the world, what would it be?
    Everyday, I pray that we will have world peace. No more starvation, torture, atrocities, extreme pain and terrible disease.

    3. To what extent do you shape your own destiny, and how much is down to fate?
    Like 80% shaped by hard work and willpower, 20% shaped by fate and luck. Hard work gets you very far, but sometimes, certain things are already per-determined and out of our control.

    4. What happens after we die?
    I don't know. God decides that.

    5. Should people care more about doing the right thing, or doing things right?
    Doing the right thing, but in a reasonable way. The ends does not always justify the means, but that doesn't mean we should blindly bleed our hearts dry either.

    6. What one piece of advice would you offer to a newborn infant?
    Interesting question lol. Uhh...please try to finish going to the bathroom BEFORE your diapers get changed and not after? lol not sure. Newborns seem to just want to drink milk and sleep. When they get a little older, I'd tell them to enjoy these years to the best of their abilities. It's such a precious, innocent age.

    7. Where is the line between insanity and creativity?
    When it starts harming yourself and others, that's where it's insanity. Other than that, no judgments.

    8. What is true happiness?
    To be blissful and content, wanting nothing more in life. Finding that meaningful purpose in life that consumes you entirely and you willingly let it.

    9. What things hold you back from doing the things that you really want to?
    Fear. It plays such a huge part in my life and sometimes runs the show. Keeps me up at night, occasionally. I really hate it a lot of the times. If I could stop planning terrible outcomes in my head, I could just live in the present and just do instead of feel.

    10. What makes you, you?

    I don't know. I'm not special or stand out in any way really, except for being socially ungraceful, but that's a lot of people, so it doesn't really make me "me". Hmm, I guess I'm pretty determined to reach my goal once I really want something. When others were asked to describe me in one word, most people said reliable and my sister said genuine lol.

    11. What is the truth?
    The reality and matter of fact of things. Things that are unchanging and raw as they are, without any subjective impression that can change them. A lot of truths can't really be proven 100% though. There's always what ifs. The movement of time only moving forward is a Truth, but it is also only based on our human perception of time, so it can't actually be objectively proven to be true.

    12. If lying is wrong, are white lies okay?
    Depends on the situation. Lies aren't really okay, but sometimes, I justify them for certain specific reasons. Like if somebody is really nosy and trying to manipulate something out of me and I'm aware of it, I might tell a white lie to throw them off my trail because I don't want to give them that kind of satisfaction. They don't deserve to be able to ask loaded questions that manipulate personal things that I don't choose to reveal.

    13. How do you know your perceptions are real?
    LOL I just mentioned that above wow. Well, you don't actually know. This is just what is taught and universally accepted our whole lives, but we can't actually KNOW.

    14. What makes a good friend?
    Somebody loyal and there for you, even when your chips are down. Somebody that accepts you as you are, flaws and all (not that you should take advantage of that but yeah).

    15. Why do people fear losing things that they do not even have yet?
    Because chasing your dreams, future possibilities and the sort makes life worth living. Progress is wonderful.

    16. Who decides what morality is?
    Honestly, everybody has their own subjective moral code, but there are certain taboos that are widely accepted as wrong. I don't know how to explain it. It just feels wrong on an innate, natural level. For example, murder. It's wrong. Just is.

    17. What is the difference between living and being alive?
    Two very different things. Being alive is living while feeling like you want to live and have something to live for. A will to live, I guess.

    18. Is a “wrong” act okay if nobody ever knows about it?
    Not in my books. You still know about it. We shouldn't do good or right things to get something out of it or for fear of being punished. We should do it because it is right and just.

    19. Is there a reason to life?
    Another good question. Makes you wonder, really. I would say yes, but I can't really explain it in detail. It's just one of those innate and natural things again.

    20. How do you know that your experience of consciousness is the same as other people’s experience of consciousness?
    Once again, this ties back to the perceptions question. You can't actually know, but you can find little clues that you might know due to them writing they agree to certain things you write, or other forms of communication. But words are subject to semantics and language. So, you get close enough, I suppose.

    21. What is true strength?
    To have the courage to do what scares you but you know that you must in order to protect others.

    22. What is true love?
    Unconditional love that you can only experience with one person.

    23. Is a family still relevant in the modern world?
    Yes. We're social creatures. We need love and care. Even if the family is not actually blood related, we humans still need a family.

    24. What role does honor play in today’s society?
    Not as much as it should. Still a lot of corrupt people in power under the guise of the good.

    25. If money cannot buy happiness, can you ever be truly happy with no money?
    I wouldn't say no money. That's so unrealistic. I would say if all other non monetary happiness conditions are met, having little money wouldn't stop happiness. You still need shelter and food to not feel miserable, sick and cold/hot though.

    26. How should people live their lives?
    As they want, as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's well being and safety.

    27. How much control do you have over your life?
    Not that much. I mean I certainly have all the physical power to do whatever I want, but mentally, it's different. I'm the type of person that cares a lot about what my in laws and others think of me, and want to keep up a "ladylike" reputation with them. Reason being I don't want to face the ridicule and backlash for not behaving traditionally. I don't actually judge others that way at all, but I'm a lot harder on myself personally.

    28. What is freedom?
    Not being tied down doing things you don't want to do.

    29. Isn’t one person’s terrorist another person’s freedom fighter?
    Yes. I've always thought about this. This is absolutely true. I actually really hate war and wish people would just GET ALONG. It sounds super naive of me and I'm already in my late twenties, but I try to keep up the optimism, even though the world can seem so bleak at times.

    30. Does nature shape our personalities more than nurture?

    I would say nurture shapes it the most.

    31. What defines you?

    I don't know. I'm no good at these kinds of questions. I just try to show who I am by answering all the other questions.

    32. What do people strive for after enlightenment?

    To continue to share peace and enlightenment with the rest of the world?

    33. Do we have a soul?

    Yes.

    34. What is intelligence?
    The ability to think/do things better than the majority of the population, I guess if I had to define it. It comes in many forms: social, intellectual, musical, street smarts, cleverness, etc.

    35. Do you make your own decisions, or let others make them for you?
    I think I honestly tend to ask others for their opinion and it affects my decisions a lot. When it's a subject I'm particularly stubborn with, I'm not likely to budge, but those are rare.

    36. What is reality?
    Your perception of what is real. Why does this question keep being asked in different ways? lol

    37. Is trust more important than love?

    You can't love without trust, so they go hand in hand.

    38. Is it easier to love or be loved?

    For me, I guess to love. It's not hard to be loved, but I can see how sometimes, I'll feel bad if others have to sacrifice for me out of love, so that would be harder.

    39. Is it better to love and lose or never to love?
    I hate this question lol. It's so dark. If I had to choose, love and lose.

    40. Do aliens exist?
    I think so! I cannot fathom that we are the ONLY life form in this universe/multiverse.



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    Hi Bunniculla,
    If its okay I would like to try to guess your type (ya noob). Sorry its a bit long.

    Probably Ne+Si
    From the outset I would say much more judicious than decisive, not exactly screaming Ni and Se. I mean with finding true happiness in blissful contentment, there isn't really room for thoughts of long term aspirations/goals/expansion etc.
    You mentioned being pretty determined when you really want something, but I think thats still not quite the dedication to a goal that Ni/Se types possess. Also "Finding that meaningful purpose in life that consumes you entirely and you willingly let it." might be seen at first to be a mark against Ne/Si, but I think the lack of force here is key. You are letting it in, rather than going after it in the real world which I see as Ni/Se.
    If I may, a profile pic of a vampire rabbit (beautiful picture btw) seems rather Ne/Si as well. Enjoying a comfortable life...as a vampire rabbit. "I could just live in the present"

    Probably Te+Fi
    Some quotes I think that support it;
    Progress is wonderful
    A lot of truths can't really be proven 100% though. There's always what ifs.
    Somebody that accepts you as you are
    Honestly, everybody has their own subjective moral code, but there are certain taboos that are widely accepted as wrong.
    So, you get close enough, I suppose.
    Sooooo this is harder, but I think the lack of wanting to be filled with positive emotion/ excited compared to being able to improve as a person points more to Te over Fe. Also you seem to be less interested in being openly expressive compared to being selective on who to trust. These aren't big indicators, but what swayed me is how you seem to approach the "truth"; a lot of Ti valuing type like to have clear rules and norms, but you seem to want to wait and see, prefering to see it as a work in progress. I think this comes across a lot in your answers and that says Te valuer to me.
    Finally anecdotally Te/Fi valuers ime say "it depends" a lot, and don't tend to generalize as much as Ti/Fe.

    In conclusion:
    Very probably delta quadra
    Based on the answers being more confident when more people focused or abstract, I would guess IEE or EII
    Based on general flow of the answers I would guess EII (reliable and genuine indeed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PluckyDucky View Post
    Hi Bunniculla,
    If its okay I would like to try to guess your type (ya noob). Sorry its a bit long.
    Hi PluckyDucky. Thanks for the thoughtful analysis on my type!

    Probably Ne+Si
    From the outset I would say much more judicious than decisive, not exactly screaming Ni and Se. I mean with finding true happiness in blissful contentment, there isn't really room for thoughts of long term aspirations/goals/expansion etc.
    You mentioned being pretty determined when you really want something, but I think thats still not quite the dedication to a goal that Ni/Se types possess.
    I do go after what I want, but those things are usually short term goals. I don't really have a ten year plan that expands to a 20 year plan where I ultimately reach some kind of greatness. I do feel good after achieving a short term goal but too long term and it does become cloudy and draining. I try to balance both, as planning too long and sticking to it no matter what would mean life's events have passed you by unnoticed while going after that one long term grand vision, but at the same time, not planning ahead means you could end up somewhere unfavorable that you could have prevented.

    Also "Finding that meaningful purpose in life that consumes you entirely and you willingly let it." might be seen at first to be a mark against Ne/Si, but I think the lack of force here is key. You are letting it in, rather than going after it in the real world which I see as Ni/Se.
    Yes, I'm driven but not highly driven like you would see in others if we did a comparison. I'll go after realistic goals, but not put myself out there too much and I'm not a very risky person.

    If I may, a profile pic of a vampire rabbit (beautiful picture btw) seems rather Ne/Si as well. Enjoying a comfortable life...as a vampire rabbit. "I could just live in the present"
    Haha, yes. I love that the carrot partially turns white

    Probably Te+Fi
    Some quotes I think that support it;
    Progress is wonderful
    A lot of truths can't really be proven 100% though. There's always what ifs.
    Somebody that accepts you as you are
    Honestly, everybody has their own subjective moral code, but there are certain taboos that are widely accepted as wrong.
    So, you get close enough, I suppose.
    Yup, I agree with Te-Fi. I highly relate to Fi and I don't think as much about Te, but I do look for external validation for truths. I am always speculating because the big picture always seems incomplete without all the missing pieces.

    Sooooo this is harder, but I think the lack of wanting to be filled with positive emotion/ excited compared to being able to improve as a person points more to Te over Fe. Also you seem to be less interested in being openly expressive compared to being selective on who to trust. These aren't big indicators, but what swayed me is how you seem to approach the "truth"; a lot of Ti valuing type like to have clear rules and norms, but you seem to want to wait and see, prefering to see it as a work in progress. I think this comes across a lot in your answers and that says Te valuer to me.
    Finally anecdotally Te/Fi valuers ime say "it depends" a lot, and don't tend to generalize as much as Ti/Fe.
    Yes, I am big on improving processes and myself. Little by little we do better to get there. Goes back to always being speculative and waiting for more information to uncover the truth.

    In conclusion:
    Very probably delta quadra
    Based on the answers being more confident when more people focused or abstract, I would guess IEE or EII
    Based on general flow of the answers I would guess EII (reliable and genuine indeed)
    [/QUOTE]

    Interesting. I still need to read up more on Socionics but I did some quick research on Delta Quadra, EII and IEE. Delta quadra sounds good - they seem to prefer balancing logic with personal values to achieve a sense of inner peace? Never been typed as an E type before - I'm quite an Introvert but perhaps Socionics views I and E differently from MBTI? EII INFj - is that closer to an INFP, INFJ or cannot be compared reasonably?

    Also, I found it refreshing to be typed by an MBTI ISTJ! I see that your Socionics type is SLI-ISTp.
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    No problemo :)

    Honestly it was nice to read through your answers. They seemed pretty down to earth, which made typing rather pleasant.

    Hmmm yeah I would say Delta quadra are quite peace orientated. And since they focus a lot of attention on individual potential/improvement I guess that translates pretty well to trying to find a sense inner peace. But sure definitely have a read around socionics sources, become more acquainted with the "senior citizen" quadra :)

    Its been a little while since I looked at MBTI, but from what I remember Introvert and Extrovert there to seem to apply a lot more to sociability. In socionics that is more associated with valuing Fe. There is definitely not a one to one match between socionics and MBTI (unfortunately).

    Actually I typed you as EII, where the E stands for ethics, not extrovert. I may be misremembering but I think the full name is like Ethics Intuitive Introvert(/Integrator). But yeah anyway thats INFj. I think there is some crossover with INFP, but probably best not to start from a place of comparison with MBTI, it gets confusing real fast.

    Ha, actually now you mention my MBTI type I do remember getting ISTP, not ISTJ, a few times. A fine ass madness. Anywho gonna stick with socionics for now I think, I find it a bit more useful.

    Thanks for the reply, glad I could help :)


 

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