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This is a discussion on The Big 80 (I took 2 days to complete it, please help) within the What's my Socionics type? forums, part of the Socionics Forum category; Block I General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean? Large picture to details, details to large ...

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    The Big 80 (I took 2 days to complete it, please help)

    Block I

    General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean?

    Large picture to details, details to large picture

    What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view?

    Logical is when something makes sense and there are no contradictions. However, I've once argued that logical can be very subjective. What we may define as "logical" now may not be "logical" in the far future, and logical IS a concept designed by humans. I think that my latter description does not correlate with the common view.

    How do you explain fractions on the dial of the clock?

    What is a rule? What rules do you have to follow?

    A rule is an instruction for people to follow I guess? That is, what can be done and what cannot be done. I follow the rules of society to blend into and function in society, but I don't follow rules which I think are harmful, unnecessary or counterproductive.

    What is hierarchy? Do you need to follow it? Why or why not?

    Hierarchy is a chain of command, most commonly observed in organisations and any sort of social group really. It relates to power, bureaucracy and the economy. I think there is a need to follow it in order to function in this society, but it does not mean that I think that there is a need to obey it.

    What do you think of instructions? Do you use them? Could you write an instruction manual? If so, what type of instruction manual would you most likely write?

    I hate instructions. I can't stand reading instruction manuals because I don't have the patience for them. I would suck so bad in writing one because I'd most probably miss some steps. I tend to try to figure things out by myself and use them as a sort of reference when needed.

    Please explain: "Freedom is in complying with the laws, but not in ignoring the laws"? Do you agree with the statement? Why?

    I once saw this phrase: The only freedom that matters is freedom of the mind.
    I somewhat agree with the statement. Ignoring the laws wouldn't grant us freedom anyway. We're going to lose if we don't play by the rules of society e.g. Breaking a law would land us in jail. There will be consequences to deal with by ignoring the laws, and while I'm not a fan of laws, if we choose to live in a certain society, there is a need to comply to their laws.

    Tell us how about consistent you are?

    I have no idea. If you mean to say my mindset and values etc., I wouldn't say that I've been consistent. I've changed vastly from my teenage days.

    What is a "standard"? Why do people need it?

    I think a standard is a form of empirical measurement. It is a form of comparison. People need it to make a judgement.

    You need to put your home library in order. How do you feel about this activity? How will you approach this task?

    I wouldn't even want to move to put my library in order. I might procrastinate until I couldn't anymore, and when I finally stand up to finish the task, I'll arrange my books in alphabetical order by author.

    Block II

    What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?

    If it's something I don't enjoy doing, work is only a source of income. But I'd prefer to find work that provides meaning for me, or I will never be satisfied in my job. I think that majority of the society go to work for income and survival, they go to work because it's the "normal" thing to do. But work can also provide us with new learning experiences, and all these may be valuable for my personal growth. I think the parameters are simply - Is it challenging/ intellectually stimulating? Does it give me meaning? And no routines please.

    Is there any correlation between quality and quantity? Tell us if or how the price depends on quality?

    I think yes to a certain extent. Better material goods would mean a higher cost price. However, sometimes goods are charged at a high price simply because of branding and advertising.

    How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?

    The only things I really do purchase are books, clothes, makeup and skincare. The quality of a book would be its content, clothes being its material and cut, makeup and skincare for the effects it has on my skin?

    How do you feel if you didn't finish some work? Does it ever happen? What are the reasons?

    I am a student and haven't been involved in a project in a long time, so I am struggling to recall. But if it's studying for the examinations, I usually do it on my own time. If you meant "didn't finish my work by the deadline", I would panic and start to worry. If I don't finish my work it would be due to distractions.

    What is "interesting work" for you? Please explain in detail.

    I think interesting work is work that is able to help in my personal growth and is related to something I value/ am interested in. I would like to learn new things as well, and I like to be challenged. There is no point doing something that I have already mastered over and over again.

    You go to the store and see something you're interested in buying; there is a price tag on it. What parameters are you going to use to understand if it's overpriced, underpriced, or priced correctly?

    If it is a boutique I'm familiar with, I would recall how they usually price their products. I will also compare the price of the product with other boutiques that are selling something similar. And then maybe the material of the clothing as well.

    When you work and someone tells you: "You don't do it right." What is your reaction?

    Upset and wondering what is it that I don't do right? And ask that person what do they mean.

    There is a professional right next to you. You always see that you can't perform the way they do. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?

    If I don't perform as well as them, I would be upset to know that I am less competent, but also seek comfort by telling myself that are far better trained to do whatever I am doing. I kind of have high expectations for myself so I'll beat myself up if I don't do something well.

    When you have to ask someone else to help you with the task, how do you feel?

    I rarely ask people for help, but if I have to ask someone I'm not close to for it, I would be somewhat shy and apologetic about it (if it is a complicated task).

    You need to build a pyramid exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?

    I'm going to give you what I would literally be thinking. I would assume that I was already provided a team and equipment - Ok, how do I go about doing it? Since we have much better technology now I think it would be easier to build that pyramid. But wouldn't it be costly, and if it's costly why are we building this pyramid again? I would feel a little puzzled. And I wouldn't be building this pyramid unless for good reason.

    Block III

    What is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?

    The most common definition of beauty is aesthetic beauty. Of course, people find things that are pleasing to the eyes beautiful, but I think there can be beauty in the queer. Beauty is too much of a generic term. There can be beauty in acts of kindness, when lovers unite etc. And also, beauty that is beyond skin-deep. There must be appreciation for us to find something beautiful. I don't change my opinion about beauty. I think my understanding correlates with the general accepted notion, and maybe "beauty in the queer" goes beyond that.

    Please describe your understanding of a beautifully dressed person. What is the core of beauty? How do you explain what is beautiful to a person who has never heard about beauty before?

    I guess a beautifully dressed person is just someone who knows how to dress well? That is if I were to take that phrase in the most literal way. The core of beauty is appreciation.
    I would tell the person that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, that what he may find beautiful may differ from what I find beautiful. But what is most beautiful can be felt from the heart. The most beautiful things are intangible, and not everyone is lucky enough to experience beauty. And when he sees or feels beauty, he will know it.

    Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as "classical beauty"? If so, what is it?

    The first thought that comes to my mind in terms of classical beauty is just timeless beauty. But no, I don't think that there is a template of understanding for what beautiful means to everyone. I am very sure that when asked the previous questions, other people will define it differently from me.

    What is comfort? What is coziness? How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?

    I think comfort is familiarity. I find comfort with the people I love the most. I create comfort and coziness by being in an environment where I can relax. Somewhere clean and nice. Like my room.

    How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?

    I pick my own clothes by 1) Comfort and 2) Aesthetic appeal. I tend no to wear skirts and dresses because they can be so uncomfortable and I'm a tom boy like that. I follow fashion, but not too much. I like to dress nice and look pretty because I am a girl. Yes, a little.

    How do you cook? Do you follow recipes? What do others think of your skill?
    I can't cook. At all. My skill? Abhorrent

    Are you good at color patterns and mixing them and matching?
    Yeah, I think I'm pretty good at that.

    If someone is telling you what is beautiful and what is not, what goes with what color and what is not, do you agree with this person?

    It would depend? If I don't find that one colour goes with the other colour then I obviously wouldn't agree with the person.

    Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?

    I haven't done anything like that before so I can't really give an answer. I don't know how do these things go about. I guess I'll mostly make sure that everything in my room matches. The colour of the walls and wardrobe, my bed sheets etc. I would do it myself but seek the opinions of others unless it is someone who will share the living space with me and I know has great taste. I wouldn't feel comfortable letting a stranger (unless it were a professional) design my place, and I might have some opinions about how I want it to look.

    How do you know if a person has bad taste? Could you give us an example? Do you always trust your own taste or do you seek opinions from others?

    I don't really know if someone has bad taste unless their clothes are really really off. For example, wearing a pair of old track shoes with a Tuxedo. Yeah, that doesn't look good to me. I trust my own taste but also like to seek the opinions of others.

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    Can you line up human resources and make them do things? What methods do you use? Can you press people? If so, how does it happen?
    I honestly don't think that I can do either. I hate leading and telling people what to do.

    What is incursion? How do you deal with this? Can you repulse? How easy can you do it?
    Yes, what is incursion?

    What does "my people" and "strangers" mean? When do "my people" become "strangers" and why?

    "My people" would mean the people I love. My close friends, family, boyfriend etc. I only have a few close friends and will only fiercely defend the people I love. Strangers would be people I am not familiar with. e.g. we don't exchange conversation. It would take a lot for "my people" to become "strangers" in this case. It is not easy for one to forsake someone they love. Betrayal might be one of the reasons.

    Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified?

    I don't understand the first part of the question. Do you mean to ask if I have strategies of attack, or do strategies of attack exist? If you meant the former then no and if you meant the latter then yes. I can't imagine myself using them, but probably yes if the situation calls for it. It is justified for survival.

    Do you think it's ok to occupy someone else's territory? In what situations?

    Are we talking about politics here? In that case I don't think that I can answer the question as it is a complicated matter and there are many variables to consider. If to occupy someone else's territory for the greater good then yes, it is ok. But to occupy someone else's territory for personal gain and greed I do not think it's ok.

    What are the methods of volitional force? When is it most effective and in what situations?

    Brut force, issuing threats, emotional blackmail. I would not use brut force myself because I think that it is the least effective. While I do not do it, I think that subtle manipulation is the most effective in getting people what they want.

    How do you protect yourself and your interests?

    I am usually very easy going and non-imposing but if someone threatens to hurt someone I love I can become very hostile. Honestly I've never had to actually protect myself so I don't know how to answer this question.

    Describe your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?

    My behaviour might differ from how I imagine it to be. I would be very reluctant to use force. I am not a violent person and avoid it at all cause. It will only happen if I absolutely have no choice. I think I might be agitated.

    Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?

    Physically strong? Hell no. Mentally strong? Maybe, but I am not sure. I think I can be emotionally strong.

    How do you understand if a person is strong? Are there any signs of a strong person? What is the core of any force? Why do people listen to one person, but not the other?

    A person is strong if they are able to withstand adversities and still remain optimistic or at least, mentally stable. A strong person knows how to pick themselves up after they fail. I have seen bitter people and people continuing to stand tall even after going through some serious shit. It depends. Some people listen to others because what the person is advocating rings true to themselves. Then there are people that listen because others listen to them i.e. conformity. I think we have all seen how society believe in what one person says over the other because the majority agrees.

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    What is boorishness? Does your understanding of it correlate with the generally accepted notion?

    I am pretty tolerable of boorish people, if defined as failure to display what society deems as "manners" or sophistication. A truly boorish person would be someone who is ill-mannered AND unkind at the same time.

    How would you explain what boorishness mean to a 10 year old child? How would you explain the same to an adult who does not behave ethically?

    In this case, what is ethical and what is not?

    How would you improve the moral of the society?

    I do not know how to improve the moral of the society, but if it could be so easily improved by my suggestion alone I would gladly try. I think morality is a grey area and some people hold it to higher standards than others. If there was a universal definition of morality it might be easier to execute a wide-scale plan on "improving" morality, but there is not. Maybe the starting point of improving morality is to improve in areas where "morality" is outstandingly bad e.g. prison. The root of the problem should be addressed. E.g. If the current treatment of inmates does not decrease the likelihood of a relapse after they are released, then there most likely is a problem with the current system and the system has to change.

    Can you justify somebody's bad behavior by thinking that he/she wasn't taught how to do so?

    Yes, I think that it can be justified. There is a fine line between good and bad. People who often categorise themselves in the "good" category and put people like prison inmates in the "bad" category should rethink their belief. Circumstances play a huge part in our lives. However, there is a difference between someone who exhibits bad behaviour because they were less fortunate of not having been taught and someone who exhibits bad behaviour consistently despite being taught.

    Give us your understanding of love. Can you love and punish at the same time?

    I think love is all that cliche nonsense. Kindness, forgiveness, etc. I believe that to give love we must learn how to love ourselves. Most importantly, it is loyalty. No, I do not think that you punish the people you love. If you meant punishing my kids for something they did wrong? Yeah. But to punish people to get back at them? No.

    Have you heard about the Southern hospitality? Everything is for the guest. There is also a German hospitality – the master of the house is always right. What method is the right one? Try to evaluate without the weight of any cultural aspects, traditions, nations etc.

    I think that it should be a balance of both. The master of the house owns the house, so guests should exhibit basic coutersy by at least not damaging his property. However, the master is the host to his guests and should try to make his guests feel welcomed and comfortable.

    What is sympathy? When do you need to express it? When is it advised not to?

    Sympathy is taking pity with another person. It is feeling sad for someone due to the current state they are in. I don't know when do we "need" to express it, but I do know how much I experience it which is pretty much. I think it is best to withhold sympathy where the person in question does not want it. Sympathy can actually make someone feel worse.

    Are there any norms of behavior in the society? Do you follow them? Do people always have to follow them? Why?

    There are many norms of behaviour in the society e.g. etiquette. Sometimes I follow them, sometimes I don't. I think that everyone follows the norms of behaviour to a certain extent and the question should be by how much. Of course people don't always have to follow them. If we do there will be no individuality in this world, wouldn't that be a scary place to live in? Different can be good.

    How do you know what attitude among people is right or wrong?

    This seems like a question of Fe or Fi. I judge it by my own standard though there may be no right or wrong, only preferable and non-preferable. If someone holds a bad attitude the person he will hurt the most is himself.

    What does moral mean? What is immoral? Does your understanding correlate with the others? How can you evaluate the correctness of your own understanding?

    I find this a very tough question. I actually think that it is circumstantial and I cannot generalise it. If a man kills, is it moral? Most people would say no. But if a man kills in self-defense or to protect the people he love, is the action now any more moral? Some people can argue that killing in itself is an immoral act regardless of motive, intention or circumstance but I say it is not independent of all those factors. I do not think there is a more correct or less correct way of understanding morality.

    Somebody is giving you a negative attitude – what is your reaction? Could you show your own negative attitude toward someone else? If so, how?
    I ignore the person even though I may be affected and slightly upset.

    Could you give a person the silent treatment? How easily do you forgive people?

    No I couldn't, I have a tendency to talk out my problems especially with people I love. I can be passive-agressive at times. I forgive people quite easily but may not trust them like before.

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    "Whole world does not cost one tear of child" – how do you understand this phrase? Do you agree with this opinion?

    The suffering of a child is not worth the value of the world. Yes, I do not think that the suffering of a child is needed to make the world a better place.

    Is it acceptable to express emotions? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

    Of course it is acceptable to express emotions, we are humans of emotions. Inappropriate expression of emotions would be expressing them at the expense of others. E.g. An emotional person that does not even try to have their emotions in control and take it out on the people they love.

    Can you use negative emotions? In what situations?

    Yes. In situations where I want to express disapproval and dismay i.e. resolve conflict. Negative emotions can also be used to drive motivation.

    How do you express negative emotions? What does it look like? What do others think about it?

    I have been told that I can be passive aggressive. I fall silent if I am unhappy, but will express my opinions later on when I feel that the heat has died down.

    Shallow emotions – what does it mean? Are there any other emotions?

    I don't know what are shallow emotions. I feel emotions in depth - especially sadness. I think all emotions can be felt in great depth, whether it is jealousy, sadness, anger or happiness.

    What are right or wrong emotions?
    There are no right or wrong emotions, only how we choose to act on it.

    Can you change the emotional state of yourself? Of others? To what side – positive or negative?

    I can change the emotional state of myself, and I do this a lot in negative situations. I rationalise my own emotions and question the root of it. However, I am not that good in changing the emotional state of others, not if they feel down and I have to lift their spirits.

    What does it mean to "pour out your emotions"? How does it happen?

    I think to pour out one's emotions would be to feel freely. In my case, to not rationalise them and feel them in their natural state no matter how unreasonable or destructive they are.

    Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

    Do you track what mood you are in throughout the day? Do you notice the mood of others?

    I do not track the mood I am throughout the day, but I am always aware of how I feel. Yes, most of the times though I have a tendency to read too much into it.

    Block VII

    Do you like surprises?

    I appreciate little surprises but rarely wish for one. I do not like grand surprises that will put me in the lime light.

    How people change? How do you feel about those changes? Can others see the changes?

    I think people eventually become more of who they are. Experience may change them, or knowledge can change one's world view. There are many factors to consider. I think that change can be good or bad. Yes, others can see the change but on a superficial level. They don't fully understand it. That's when they start accusing the other person of "change" (like it's a bad thing).

    Is it true that whatever happens is only for the best?

    No, not everything. I think that it is a phrase coined and abused by people who wants to believe so.

    What do you think of horoscopes, fortune telling etc.? Do you believe in luck, lucky fortuity?

    I don't believe in horoscopes, but I may believe in fortune telling. There are many phenomenons men cannot explain. I believe in luck to a certain extent.

    Can you forecast events? Is it even real?

    I can speculate on the many ways an event can unfold, but I cannot be certain which is accurate, though I would say more than half the time my speculation is spot on. Once in a while I have a very strong gut feeling and it always comes true.

    What is time? How do you feel time? Can you "kill" time? How?

    Time is a concept. "Killing" time is a metaphor, so no we cannot literally kill time. Time will pass in the same manner, no more and no less, regardless of what we are doing.

    Is it easy for you to wait for some important event? What if you don’t know when it is supposed to happen?
    No, it is not. I become very restless and anxious. I would be very bothered by it.

    Do you need help creating forecasts and determining how something will end? Do you trust those forecasts?
    No, I do not need help.

    Are you normally late? How do you react if someone is late?

    Half the time early, half the time late. The latest I would be is 5-10 minutes. I am not affected if someone is late unless they make me wait for an hour without informing me.

    Imagine the situation where you agreed to meet with someone. Your feelings and actions: a) 20 minutes before the meeting starts, b) 5 minutes before the meeting starts, c) it is time for the meeting to start, but the person is not here, d) 20 minutes after the meeting start time and the person is not here, e) more time and the person is still not here…

    a) Probably on the way to the meeting, listening to my music and living in my own head
    b) Still listening to music and living in my own head
    c) Message or call the person
    d) Ask for their location, and inquire for waiting time (starting to get a little impatient)
    e) If the person went missing without informing me I would be pissed

    Block VIII

    Is there a meaning of life? In what? Is it the same for everybody?

    I would love to think so. I seek meaning by making a difference in the lives of the people I love. No, I do not think it is the same for everybody.

    What should be done so people can be happy?

    Another tough question. Happiness is a concept that cannot be applied universally. Just because someone is happy being rich does not mean that other people would feel the same way about money.

    In the situations with a lot of potential and volatility will you trust your own guts, logically calculating everything or will you ask people you trust what should be done?

    I would ask people I trust what should be done - someone who is more logically calculative than me. I will ultimately make the decsion myself and trust my own guts.

    When you meet a stranger, what can you say about them right away? How do you know what this person is all about? Does it take long to understand someone's talents?

    When I meet a stranger I judge them by their mannerisms, their "vibe". It is hard to say, but I would like to think I know what "kind" of person they are. I typically avoid people who gossip excessively and are quick to judge. No, I don't think so.

    Remember an interesting person and call out 5-6 qualities you think are interesting in them.

    I can scarely remember anyone "interesting", though I find the following qualities in a person interesting
    1) Insightful yet humorous. Someone who can discuss the human condition with me.
    2) Manipulative people. They fascinate me to no end, especially the unsuccesful ones. What in the world are they thinking?
    3) Wise. I would love to learn.
    4) My INTJ boyfriend used to fascinate me. I was a little surprised by his extremely logical and objective perspective on everything.

    What makes an interesting person? Are you an interesting person? Why? What if someone calls you "boring" and "not interesting"?

    1) An interesting person is someone who has insight to offer. Intelligent. Sometimes an interesting person can be someone that is confusing to me. I don't know if I am an interesting person, my boyfriend seems to think so. Someone has called me boring before, "like a mannequin that will not speak". I admit that if someone isn't able to break my shell I can come across as boring. I would hate to think of myself as boring.

    What opinions, from people who know you, seem: a) fair; b) not fair; c) hurtful; d) strange.

    a) Sincere, living in my own world
    b) Weird
    c) Boring

    Do you fantasize? What kind of fantasies do you have?

    I fantasize about the future, and things that most likely would not come true. My dreams are absolutely bizzare.

    What qualities should a person have to be successful and why?

    Intelligent, visionary, assertive, ambitious, hold personal values. Intelligent and visionary speaks for itself. Assertive because a leader cannot be a pushover. It can be a quiet display of assertiveness - someone who will stand their ground for the right decision. Ambitious because simply, a person cannot be successful without wanting to become successful. Someone with values because it is very easy to be blinded by power. A person with values will know what lines not to cross.

    What qualities can stop a person from being successful and why?

    Greed, selfishness. A person with excessive desire for power and money will fall one day. Selfishness because a person that only takes from others and never return the favour will not bode well with others. A person cannot rise alone.

    What is more important in life – to be a good person or be a successful one? Why? Is a good person always successful? If not, then why?

    Personally, to be a good person. I would not be happy harming others despite my success. No, a good person is not always successful but a good person, like every other person has the potential of being successful. Just because someone is kind and humble does not mean that the person possess the necessary traits for success e.g. ambition.

    What type am I? I test as INFP in MBTI.

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    EII does seem to fit; I read the Ti, Se blocks and parts of the Fi and Ne/Ni block.

    Se PoLR: all Se questions; Fi valuing: I read two answers in the Fi block and it's pretty obvious it's Fi with Ne :P and devaluing & weak Ti clearly...

    if you want concrete examples just let me know


    Quote Originally Posted by Cavaller View Post
    Logical is when something makes sense and there are no contradictions. However, I've once argued that logical can be very subjective. What we may define as "logical" now may not be "logical" in the far future, and logical IS a concept designed by humans. I think that my latter description does not correlate with the common view.
    How do you think something that is seen logical now may not be in the future? If you just mean the data was wrong that one made a logical evaluation about then I would agree.

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    @Word Dispenser Hi! Would you like explaining more on your deduction? Just curious! While MBTI and Socionics are not the same, they still share some similarities and LSI would seem far-fetched since I am an INFP in MBTI.

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    @myst91 Tests may not be accurate but I think they would be close to my true type so just fyi, I consistantly score EII-1Ne on Socionics Test. The next most plausible types are EIE and IEE.

    I'm new to socionics and while I've been trying to read up on it, it is pretty confusing to me. It is also much more complicated as compared to MBTI, so it's been taking me awhile to absorb all that information. Providing some concrete examples would be extremely helpful!

    I think that logic can be an abstract concept and there are different ways to look at it. For example, if I spill water on the floor, it is logical that the floor will be wet. There is no argument. However, logic can also be seen in another way. The world used to think that Earth is flat. At that point of time, it was only logical for everybody to think of the world that way. However, it was proven that the world is in fact, round. Therefore, our "logic" has changed. This "kind" of logic is merely a concept designed by humans. What we think of as logical now may not in fact be logical if you understand what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavaller View Post
    @Word Dispenser Hi! Would you like explaining more on your deduction? Just curious! While MBTI and Socionics are not the same, they still share some similarities and LSI would seem far-fetched since I am an INFP in MBTI.

    You seem to have a strong grasp of Ti, and seemed to have Fe dual-seeking, with a relatively strong Se.

    And I do agree-- MBTI and Socionics transitions quite marvelously into one another. Which means I'd disagree with EII... In theory.

    I have been known to be grossly wrong, however, on multiple occasions. 50 % success rate with typing.

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    @Word Dispenser Going by descriptions, I would have to say that I do not relate to LSI at all. To be honest, I did the questionnaire not knowing what each block is about

    "And I do agree-- MBTI and Socionics transitions quite marvelously into one another. Which means I'd disagree with EII... In theory." Hmm, I am a little confused. Do INFPs typically not test as EII or IEI in Socionics?

    I find LSI an interesting conclusion. Is it possible to be an LSI in Socionics but INFP in MBTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavaller View Post
    @Word Dispenser Going by descriptions, I would have to say that I do not relate to LSI at all. To be honest, I did the questionnaire not knowing what each block is about

    "And I do agree-- MBTI and Socionics transitions quite marvelously into one another. Which means I'd disagree with EII... In theory." Hmm, I am a little confused. Do INFPs typically not test as EII or IEI in Socionics?

    I find LSI an interesting conclusion. Is it possible to be an LSI in Socionics but INFP in MBTI?
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I mean that EII is INFP in both Socionics and MBTI.

    It is not possible, based on my opinion. There are a few stragglers who insist that you can be different types in each, but I think this is a result of snowflake syndrome. The functions are the functions in each.

    Anywho-- Even if you don't relate to the descriptions:.. Do you relate to the functions? What functions do you find you're using in everyday life? Which functions are you repulsed by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavaller View Post
    I find LSI an interesting conclusion. Is it possible to be an LSI in Socionics but INFP in MBTI?
    Low probability. Ne definitions translate over easily between the two systems. You would go from Ne auxiliary (quite skilled) to Ne PoLR (blindspot).
    There's more buffer room in IMEs with very different descriptions like Se, Si, Fe, Te.

    Edit: Sorry, WD! Didn't mean to directly counter you with my post right after.
    She is right in this situation, OP. Most people are suffering from special snowflake syndrome instead of actually having a case. There are a few types who are less likely to translate perfectly. LSI is close, really can't go INFP out of it.
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