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I recently gave a gift to an INFJ--unwittingly. Yes, that's right, I unintentionally gave a gift to an INFJ.

Not that I minded the INFJ having the gift: I gave the "gifts" to another individual; one for the individual, one more for him to share as he saw fit--which was to this INFJ.

The INFJs reaction to the gift caught me by surprise.

I will explain (the length of a paragraph) after I get some INFJ responses. I don't want to prejudice the responses by sharing the other half of the story too quickly.

What does it mean to you when someone gives you a gift, especially an unexpected gift?
 
Depends on the gift. If it's an insanely expensive gift that serves no purpose other than to show off your abundant wealth, I would thank you for it kindly and then ask you to take it back before you risk offending me.

Now, if it's a thoughtful gift, then I would thank you in an awkward manner because I do that when I'm pleased on an emotional level and keep it. Probably go to sleep hugging it with a smile on my face. I like to be thought of. :]

If you put a lot of thought into your gifts, that means you care enough for me to want to please me. I don't like last second gifts--I would rather you not give me anything than something you picked up as a last minute thing. That's really offensive.
 
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Depends on the gift. If it's an insanely expensive gift that serves no purpose other than to show off your abundant wealth, I would thank you for it kindly and then ask you to take it back before you risk offending me.

Now, if it's a thoughtful gift, then I would thank you in an awkward manner because I do that when I'm pleased on an emotional level and keep it. Probably go to sleep hugging it with a smile on my face. I like to be thought of. :]

If you put a lot of thought into your gifts, that means you care enough for me to want to please me. I don't like last second gifts--I would rather you not give me anything than something you picked up as a last minute thing. That's really offensive.
Thank you for your reply. Most of what you said is quite similar to my feelings about gifts I've received.

Love your siggy.


I'll wait for a few more replies before I explain and potentially heat this up.
 
Something that costs a lot? I'd tell them that they are trying too hard and (if the person giving me the gift is a close friend) that they don't need to. Then I'd ask for the receipt so i can return it (as a favour I guess)

Something that doesn't cost much? I'd thank em, but usually try to pay back (with $$)

I don't mean to sound cheesy or steriotypical, but I do value memories, cards, letters, or even simple hugs way more then material gifts.

Can't remember the last time I go any of these, though...with the exception of t-shirts given to me on xmas.


But an INFJ will spend a lot of time figuring out why you did what you did, or what the series of events possibly means in terms of emotions felt.
also, this.
 
Spend a LONG while figuring out what the gift means.

The immediate reaction, depending on the person, will either be tempered by what is socially acceptable "oh ... thank you ... " *trails off and vapourizes* etc. or "no, you didn't have to!" or "why did you get this!"

But an INFJ will spend a lot of time figuring out why you did what you did, or what the series of events possibly means in terms of emotions felt.
 
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Let's understand this was a gift that didn't cost anything.
 
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Like being seen. Almost amazed someone did something for me. I always appreciate every gift I get. Like it's a cherished token.

I agree with Annihilatron as well, spend a long time wondering why I was "deserving" of a gift.
 
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@mrniceftw and @ertertwert and the rest of you, thank you for your responses.

Here is the story:

(Sorry, it turns out I decided to explain more than one paragraph.)

I gave a gift (two) to a man in a professional setting, a work environment to which I was a visitor. I told the man one of the gifts was for him, the other was to share with whomever he pleased. The gift was product from my farm. Rather desirable product, but actual value of each gift maxes out at about $5 apiece. On a previous visit, this man mentioned he liked the type of product produced on my farm. I said I would be more than happy to bring him some product the next time I came. He said he would like that and was pleased.

I went to this professional setting to visit with the man's boss. Prior to seeing the boss, I delivered the gift. Prior to seeing the boss, he gave the other gift to the boss. The boss (not my boss, just a peer to me) comes in to meet with me absolutely beaming and overwhelmed with said gift in his hands. I was stunned.

I would have gladly brought said gift specifically for the boss, had it occurred to me, but it didn't. Further, I wouldn't have given it prior to our meeting, but only after as I would see the gift prior to the meeting as potentially insincere, like bribery.

The boss was so pleased and overwhelmed at the "thoughtfulness" of this gift, though he seemed to genuinely like the gift as well, that he couldn't focus on our meeting, but rather he focused on me "emotionally" which I felt was a huge distraction. Mostly, I was shocked at his pleasure and gushing to the point of being red in the face.

I felt horrible, too, because while I gladly would have "thought" about the boss and brought said gift if I had any prior information that he would enjoy it, but I WASN'T being thoughtful as he assumed. I didn't explain as I didn't want to hurt his feelings if I told him I hadn't actually thought of him.

The next few business meetings were born with me bearing gifts, but discreetly left for after the meeting. So, there was thoughtfulness, but delivered in a way that didn't conflict with my morals that would suggest bribery if given at the head of a meeting.

Meanwhile, and prior to the next business meeting after the first gift, I was mailed a very personal thank you note from the boss. I am still unsure if he intended it to sound as flirtatious as it came across. However, I did not receive this note for months. The boss was quite inexplicably dejected, presumably by me, at the next meeting. Not knowing about the personal note, I was quite confused at his initial excitement to see me, then his sour dejected attitude that ended the meeting.

His note mentioned he was "touched" by the gift. Touched by a farm product? I'm confused. Touched by me, the gift, the thoughtfulness that wasn't, or what?

INFJs, can you interpret please?
 
You were being thoughtful in that you actually managed to follow through with your claim that you'd bring him something. Too often, people's promises fall through... I, personally, would just be so happy that you managed to remember the conversation and thought it was worthwhile enough to bring the product.

I really never expect people to come through with this kind of thing, so when they do, I'm always very pleasantly surprised.
 
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You were being thoughtful in that you actually managed to follow through with your claim that you'd bring him something. Too often, people's promises fall through... I, personally, would just be so happy that you managed to remember the conversation and thought it was worthwhile enough to bring the product.

I really never expect people to come through with this kind of thing, so when they do, I'm always very pleasantly surprised.
Jasette, I apologize if my posts were ambiguous: I followed through only to the extent that I brought the employee, who I discussed the gift with, a gift. This man really has nothing to do with my question. He's not the INFJ.

The INFJ was the unwitting recipient of an unplanned unintended gift. He was tremendously moved. Moved over what I though nothing. Nothing of value. Nothing thoughtful on my part.

He was later dejected to an equal degree over what I believe was an unnoticed thank you note.
 
I told the man one of the gifts was for him, the other was to share with whomever he pleased. The gift was product from my farm. Rather desirable product, but actual value of each gift maxes out at about $5 apiece.
The fact is you were considerate enough to bring two gifts when one should have sufficed and you told the man to share the second with whomever he pleased. Obviously he chose his boss; and it doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not, he still received a gift. The best part is it's homegrown! Kind of like receiving roses on Valentine's Day from someone's personal greenhouse. :laughing:

The boss (not my boss, just a peer to me) comes in to meet with me absolutely beaming and overwhelmed with said gift in his hands. I was stunned.
When someone has done something nice for me (intentional or not), I feel a desperate need to show them they are appreciated. Because in their shoes, I would want to be appreciated.

Further, I wouldn't have given it prior to our meeting, but only after as I would see the gift prior to the meeting as potentially insincere, like bribery.
Perhaps you're over-analyzing a bit, because keep in mind that you gave the man an extra gift to give to whomever--how do you know he didn't tell the boss what occurred before the meeting and before the product landed in his hands?

The boss was so pleased and overwhelmed at the "thoughtfulness" of this gift, though he seemed to genuinely like the gift as well, that he couldn't focus on our meeting, but rather he focused on me "emotionally" which I felt was a huge distraction. Mostly, I was shocked at his pleasure and gushing to the point of being red in the face.
Desperate need for you to know you're appreciated!

I felt horrible, too, because while I gladly would have "thought" about the boss and brought said gift if I had any prior information that he would enjoy it, but I WASN'T being thoughtful as he assumed. I didn't explain as I didn't want to hurt his feelings if I told him I hadn't actually thought of him.
Good call. It would have been similar to you slapping him in the face after he thanked you. :dry:

Not knowing about the personal note, I was quite confused at his initial excitement to see me, then his sour dejected attitude that ended the meeting.
Kind of like someone giving me a gift, me going out of my way to thank them, and them not acknowledging it. Probably worse than not receiving a gift.

His note mentioned he was "touched" by the gift. Touched by a farm product? I'm confused. Touched by me, the gift, the thoughtfulness that wasn't, or what?
It's not just a farm product! Gah, I'm having a really hard time trying to explain things. Will get back.
 
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It's not just a farm product! Gah, I'm having a really hard time trying to explain things. Will get back.
I know it couldn't have been about the farm product. Who the heck is touched by a farm product. I can figure if he was "touched" by what he perceived as thoughtfulness, or if he was flirting, or both. That's the problem.

I typically don't notice people flirting, but when I have noticed, I definitely noticed. That's what bothers me about this on one level. It came across as more than a genuine thank you. How would you distinguish the difference. It's made me uncomfortable in our business meetings ever since.
 
I think it might help if you ask the original person you gave the gift to how he presented it to his boss (this guy). Like specifically ask, maybe the other guy is trying to hook you 2 up?
 
I know it couldn't have been about the farm product. Who the heck is touched by a farm product. I can figure if he was "touched" by what he perceived as thoughtfulness, or if he was flirting, or both. That's the problem.

I typically don't notice people flirting, but when I have noticed, I definitely noticed. That's what bothers me about this on one level. It came across as more than a genuine thank you. How would you distinguish the difference. It's made me uncomfortable in our business meetings ever since.
Hey! I get touched by farm products...You of all people should know how much time and effort it takes to produce those products since they came from your farm.

I personally measure how much a person thinks of me based on how much time and effort they put into the things they give me or do for me. For instance, receiving homemade cards.

Er. Sometimes we can be a little too eager to please...but only because we're so happy someone else is thinking of us for once.
 
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Hey! I get touched by farm products...You of all people should know how much time and effort it takes to produce those products since they came from your farm.

I personally measure how much a person thinks of me based on how much time and effort they put into the things they give me or do for me. For instance, receiving homemade cards.

Er. Sometimes we can be a little too eager to please...but only because we're so happy someone else is thinking of us for once.
So, bottom line it for me. A personal note that he was "touched" is a mere expression of gratitude? If yes, what strings, if any are attached to the note? Expectations?
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@mrniceftw He wasn't trying to hook us up and it is completely out of the question to pose the question to him due to the type of working environment it is. Besides, he's gay. If anything, he was trying to "touch" his boss--no, not physically.
 
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