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Thank you for this. Each person is unique within his type descriptions. Yes, most traits fit ... but not always. There are differences in levels of commitment based on past relationships. I've gone through a long period of emotional abuse. I'm now much less likely to commit to a long term relationship just because of that. I've become less trusting as compared to other ENFJ's. Does that make me any less of an ENFJ? No.

This happens in other forums as well --- as soon as positive traits are being talked about almost *everybody* embraces a person as their own type. And as soon as a person with a few negative traits shows up .. almost everybody's like *get that out of here -- he can't be of us. He's got negative traits* ... ugh. Just sifting through all the stereotype threads has been really funny. People that like someone else, is of their type ... and the bad people are of some other type ;)
It's not that. I'd be the first one to admit if it's an INFJ being a dick. I even admit Hitler's an INFJ. I just see that NF's are more predisposed to the idea of romance and love and finding the one who will set your heart on fire. Take that with the Introvert's tendency to make fewer social connections, and the J's tendency to crave closure, it just doesn't seem like a likely situation for an INFJ.
 
Thank you for this. Each person is unique within his type descriptions. Yes, most traits fit ... but not always. There are differences in levels of commitment based on past relationships. I've gone through a long period of emotional abuse. I'm now much less likely to commit to a long term relationship just because of that. I've become less trusting as compared to other ENFJ's. Does that make me any less of an ENFJ? No.

This happens in other forums as well --- as soon as positive traits are being talked about almost *everybody* embraces a person as their own type. And as soon as a person with a few negative traits shows up .. almost everybody's like *get that out of here -- he can't be of us. He's got negative traits* ... ugh. Just sifting through all the stereotype threads has been really funny. People that like someone else, is of their type ... and the bad people are of some other type ;)
i could not agree more! thank you for saying this! sometimes it makes me really upset to see a person of a type being alienated or shunned on their own forum as if 'you are not one of us'...especially if the person is already lonely and is on the forum seeking understanding by others who share similarities with them.

often our experiences play a large part in melding us into who we are, or how we behave. some who have gone through extensive trauma, or who have never known anyone to understand them and have had to 'play a role' to survive in life, or those who feel like they must cast up a shield to protect themselves from the world that has hurt them, are going to evidence their personality traits much differently than those who have never been through such difficulties. everyone should be loved and embraced and no one should feel isolated.

and those who have the negative traits are likely the ones who have been through the deepest hurts and therefore they need that welcoming and acceptance by others of their type so much more...

and we all know that there are 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' brands of every personality type...e.g. Hitler being a VERY unhealthy brand of an INFJ.

also, it is possible, for example, for an INFJ under stress to behave more like an ESTP in terms of Se-dominance. i have read that this occurs and have seen it true in my own life at times. our circumstances can affect how much we resemble our true selves...

it is true that mistypes occur, and it is helpful if people can recognize if they are mistyped so that it will become clear to readers which traits are actually characteristic of each personality type. but mistyping is never a good excuse to exclude someone or make them feel banned. anyone of any type is welcome on any subforum!! :happy:

/gets off soapbox
 
i could not agree more! thank you for saying this! sometimes it makes me really upset to see a person of a type being alienated or shunned on their own forum as if 'you are not one of us'...especially if the person is already lonely and is on the forum seeking understanding by others who share similarities with them.

often our experiences play a large part in melding us into who we are, or how we behave. some who have gone through extensive trauma, or who have never known anyone to understand them and have had to 'play a role' to survive in life, or those who feel like they must cast up a shield to protect themselves from the world that has hurt them, are going to evidence their personality traits much differently than those who have never been through such difficulties. everyone should be loved and embraced and no one should feel isolated.

and we all know that there are 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' brands of every personality type...e.g. Hitler being a VERY unhealthy brand of an INFJ.

it is true that mistypes occur, and it is helpful if people can recognize if they are mistyped so that it will become clear to readers which traits are actually characteristic of each personality type. but mistyping is never a good excuse to exclude someone or make them feel banned. anyone of any type is welcome on any subforum!! :happy:

/gets off soapbox
wow you are so awesome :D
 
So the moral of the story is, there's 7 billion people on this planet all trying to find a little bit of happiness anyone who "wants" to be with you for the right reasons is more deserving. :)
 
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Omfg I am a enfp crushing on a infj too!!! The thing is I'm in a serios lationship with a entj, and the infj is a lot older then me.. Aaa what can I do...
Age is only a standard of time we have set up.

However age "could" affect future desires depending on what they are.
 
He has said "I love you" and today he told me he wants to commit to me because he doesn't want to see me date other guys when we break up. Also, I usually sleep over his house every single night.
Okay, what was the timeline there? How long between "I want to date other people" and "I love you" and wants to commit to you? Has he said "I love you" and that he wants to commit to you before? If so, does this time seem different?
 
He stares at you - cause we like to "study" people and often enough, the ENFP is an extremely fascinating specimen. We just want to look at you, every strand of hair that falls on your face, every twitch your body makes as we watch you react certain actions. Most likely we will remember everything you did.
This is too cute. I'm wondering if this is how my INFJ guy crush is going to be feeling about me ..
He's someone I met a month ago, but we're meeting one on one soon and getting to know each other more. He's so Fe and giving of compliments and calls me crap like sweetheart and dear, yet he's so subtle/low key/cool about it .. gah 💕

I'm going to have so much fun flirting with him ☺💕💕
 
To answer the subject of the thread - you won't. You'll never know unless he knows beyond the shadow of a doubt (no hinting - be blunt) that you're actually, really and truly interested. And then you have to continually reinforce that concept, otherwise, he may think you changed your mind and he needs to give you space to work it out - appearing to you that he's not interested or distant.
 
Lots of furtive stares, awkwardly transparent attempts at stalking, nervous exchanges, and dilated pupils. Honestly, if he's talking to you a lot and seems hopelessly awkward sometimes, he's probably into you. When we're in love we have terrible poker faces. Our emotions tend to boil the lid off the pot pretty early on.
 
We have been on and off dating for a year and some change. He has broken up with me like 20 times. He says he is confused
If he wants to be in a committed relationship with me. He wants to date other girls and find out for sure if I am the one. so basically he wants me to be in a causal relationship with him while he makes up his mind about me.
To me your description sounds like either...

1. his gut feeling is in flux and moving towards no, but his left brain isn't letting him go of possibilities very easily just yet

or

2. he has already made up his mind no, but doesn't want to sound cruel

or

3. you might be doing the classic ENFP thing of rejecting someone because you think that they rejected you; and if that process is repeated enough times then eventually the other person wants out because they're not feeling understood and not getting enough stability.

or maybe some combination of those.

RE: #3 - every ENFP I dated would break up with me and then claim that I initiated the breakup. It was very odd pattern that I have not yet encountered in other personality types besides ENFP. Digging deeper into it, it appears that the ENFP feels rejection even when I'm doing something that to me doesn't feel like rejection (like quietly washing the dishes?) After a partner repeats the breakup/makeup cycle a few times for ridiculous reasons, then of course an INFJ actively wants out because the amount of instability is just ridiculous and we prefer stability.
 
Ooooo, ENFP female wondering if male INFJ likes her...

This I approve of...

I will share my experiences based on the various ENFPs I liked before...

1. He talks about you to his friends - Most likely he would have gone batshit insane and talked about you and how special and adorable you are and how much he wants to hold you and be with you. Often ENFPs behave in such a way that the male INFJ just completely snaps and has to vent out his "happiness" to any of his friends, sometimes irregardless of how close they are.

2. He stares at you - cause we like to "study" people and often enough, the ENFP is an extremely fascinating specimen. We just want to look at you, every strand of hair that falls on your face, every twitch your body makes as we watch you react certain actions. Most likely we will remember everything you did.

3. He blogs about you, secretively - cause of the Extroverted Fe, we tend to "need" to express our feelings and just shout it out to the world, but of course, we don't want you to feel embarrassed. Read our tweets and status updates. See what he posts after a social gathering or what not. I always blog love letters of the girls I love, with no names of course.

PRO TIP;

Crash his party or social gatherings. Cause of the social misfits bit, we always need to prepare ourselves before we see the ones we like, kinda like mental preparation and telling ourselves to behave properly and formulate a plan. If you suddenly came to one of our social gatherings without prior knowledge, it would freak the fuck out of our senses, making us go insane. You will truly bring out the awkward Sam Witwicky or Scott Pilgrim in us.

Let the awkwardness begin!!!
Everything you said is 1000% accurate, ESPECIALLY the bolded parts. I'm so fucking guilty of all of these, I even blogged about my crush right here on PerC.
 
I used to stare at my crush a lot when she wasn't looking. On rare occasions, when she did use to caught me staring at her I would in a blink of an eye get embarrassed.(But won't show), just lower my gaze

Also, walking around her, I would be super conscious but still great at masking what I was feeling.

Next time when he is passing by you. Try calling him out to catch him using his over-reflexsive action.
Or you can
Tryasking for help about something trivial and just see how absolute best he will give. Say thank you and witness how amazing day he would be having.
 
Please list signs of Male Infjs in love. Thanks!
is he asking how are you feeling deep down ? making time to listen to you, or give you some company even at impossible hours ? is he trying to be reliable for you, in order to consider him as a rock, and not a friend ?

These are pretty good hints, I'd wager
 
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